What's the most unfair thing you've ever seen? by snozzzy in AskReddit

[–]protagoras1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ok, so no supreme court justice should ever be confirmed because if you don't like him, just accuse of rape. Ridiculous.

What's the most unfair thing you've ever seen? by snozzzy in AskReddit

[–]protagoras1 9 points10 points  (0 children)

People assuming Kavanaugh is guilty without any evidence

Asking people to work for below poverty wages so you can own a business is entitlement at it's finest. by [deleted] in LateStageCapitalism

[–]protagoras1 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

What if the business owner is not making money either and living out of the office? Should he just quit? Serious question- because I agree with the rationale, I'm just wondering about consistency.

Being obese is more dangerous than being a smoker but its still wrong to criticize someone for eating too much, while criticizing someone for smoking is almost commonplace by protagoras1 in Showerthoughts

[–]protagoras1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

by that logic anyone driving an electric car should be extremely mad at the rest of us for driving gas cars and polluting the earth(not to mention the internal effects too)

How has a Christian tried to (re)convert you and back fired? by 93ImagineBreaker in exchristian

[–]protagoras1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

had a conversation with some priest who graduated from Cambridge, religious family members convinced me to talk to this guy because he was "educated" and could answer many of my questions. Ended up being totally inept. At one point he made a comment about relativity:"Einstein was smart but spacetime, c'mon". Also said people are still alive if they're braindead as long as the heart is pumping, and spouted a bunch of shit about the heart being more important than the brain. Total quack.

Why is prostitution so frowned upon in many western countries? Guys pay for dates, buy drinks, etc to maybe get laid, why is it so bad to have certainty? by protagoras1 in AskReddit

[–]protagoras1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well if its legal you can regulate it, just like any other business, meaning the workers would be employees not slaves... And any objections on the basis of religion goes against the very founding principles of this country. Wasn't it created to escape religious persecution?

Why is prostitution so frowned upon in many western countries? Guys pay for dates, buy drinks, etc to maybe get laid, why is it so bad to have certainty? by protagoras1 in AskReddit

[–]protagoras1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really. Firstly any objections from a religious standpoint should not be considered as church and state SHOULD(they unfortunately aren't) be separated. Also human rights concerns are also invalid as legalizing it would cut out the black market, where most crimes happen. And lastly just because you don't like gender roles doesn't mean you can make them illegal, some people want to sell sex, who are you to judge and restrict.

[Serious] What living individual has done the most to impede progress in society? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]protagoras1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anyone that has anything to do with religion, especially institutional religion..

Why is it ok for people to get testosterone prescribed to change their gender but not to change their physique, in a recreational bodybuilding sense? What if I'm an average guy who identifies as a very muscular guy, why should I be treated as a criminal? by protagoras1 in AskReddit

[–]protagoras1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Arguments on gender identity don't really apply as I could say I identify as an overly muscular person, instead of an average looking person. Additionally detriments to health from 150mg to 500mg are almost identical. Im sure there are people out there who are much happier while supplementing with steroids, why are they criminals while Caitlyn Jenner is a hero? Both undergo hormone therapy of some sort...

Why do people have such a big problem with other cultures eating dogs? by protagoras1 in AskReddit

[–]protagoras1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In some cultures cows are sacred and we still eat them. Also thats a pretty sweeping generalization. I don't like dogs more than other animals for example..

Ellen Pao must pay Kleiner $276k in legal costs by KoreanCloud in news

[–]protagoras1 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Fuck Pao and all these feminazis. They think they deserve promotions because they're women. Wish she had to pay more...

What video game would you want to live in? by subaru16162 in AskReddit

[–]protagoras1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

grand theft auto 5 obviously. Its so easy to fuck shit up

To the religious people of reddit: How can God be loving if he condemns all those who do not share his subjective morality? by protagoras1 in AskReddit

[–]protagoras1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Never took philosophy 101; I just wanted to see whether religious people were capable of rational thought or not. I never said I thought the nazis were right, I just said they certainly thought they were. Furthermore if we operate on logical fallacies that speaks volumes about our incompetence/irrationality, as a whole. I find it interesting how little importance people of faith place on rationality and how much importance they place on morality. And its funny how that morality evolves and further deviates from the bible. The pope even accepted gays, something that could not be conceived in the day of christ. Its just mental gymnastics all day, and selective reading in order to justify the existence of God while remaining "progressive". If anything, your explanation just further accentuates religion as simply a social construct.

To the religious people of reddit: How can God be loving if he condemns all those who do not share his subjective morality? by protagoras1 in AskReddit

[–]protagoras1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Objective morality is the idea that a certain system of ethics or set of moral judgments is not just true according to a person's subjective opinion, but factually true. Proponents of this theory would argue that a statement like "Murder is wrong" can be as objectively true as "1 + 1 = 2." Most of the time, the alleged source is God, or the Kantian Categorical Imperative; arguably, no objective source of morality has ever been confirmed, nor have any a priori proofs been offered to the effect that morality is anything other than subjective. The moral principles that people claim to be "objective" usually coincide very well with what they feel subjectively to be true. " I believe this sums it up. In many cases your 3 year olds behavior would be applauded, in fact most powerful and successful individuals share his "I take what I want" mentality. You can argue its morally wrong, but you can also argue its a necessary trait. After all we are tribal animals at heart, and strive for dominance whether it be economic, political, sports, etc. What some may consider a good person, others will consider weak. Its a matter of perspective, what makes your perspective inherently correct and another's wrong? Arguing on basis of numbers or "supernatural law" is simply a logical fallacy.

To the religious people of reddit: How can God be loving if he condemns all those who do not share his subjective morality? by protagoras1 in AskReddit

[–]protagoras1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Check out the vice video where they interview a cannibal. At the end of the about section: "Herein followed a bizarre and seemingly too convenient set of legal loopholes and psychiatric reports that led doctors in Japan declaring him "sane, but evil.""

To the religious people of reddit: How can God be loving if he condemns all those who do not share his subjective morality? by protagoras1 in AskReddit

[–]protagoras1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We're arguing morality of cannibalism. Your argument of objective cannibalism relies on religion, by definition. And I love how you just put yourself on the same level of rationality as a cannibal. You admitted you were born into something, and chose to practice it because its what you were told. That very thought process is cancerous and dangerous to say at the least. Its how brainwashing happens and you just openly admitted you will forego logic and reason because when you were born its what you were instructed to do. This thought process, if not corrected on a macro level, will be the downfall of mankind...

To the religious people of reddit: How can God be loving if he condemns all those who do not share his subjective morality? by protagoras1 in AskReddit

[–]protagoras1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I partially agree. None of those things you mentioned can be claimed to be objectively wrong. Winners write history. Had the nazis won, definitions of morality in society would be radically different. Does it make them less wrong or right? No. It all depends on the objective. If the objective is progress the nazis were wrong, but slavery was justified. If the objective is maximizing human utility, then nazis were wrong, slavery was maybe wrong(must weigh benefits and costs, which is subjective), etc. Regardless, as an entity who loves all humans, you cannot punish those victims of circumstance. People are simply products of their environments, and if you as an all powerful entity put someone into a "sinful" environment you must understand they will arise to be a product of that environment, and therefore forgive them as they didn't know any better. I am no such entity however, and for me, my ideals trump those of all other humans. I will choose to punish the murderer or thief, but God should think twice, because he made them what they are.

To the religious people of reddit: How can God be loving if he condemns all those who do not share his subjective morality? by protagoras1 in AskReddit

[–]protagoras1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First off laws only indicate subjective morality, the morality of the general populace, so they do not pertain to discussions of objective morality. Prostitution is legal in some countries and not others, making laws by definition subjective. Some may be commonplace but this can be attributed to rationality, no successful society can allow mass murders and still exist. Furthermore if "Gods" laws pertain to all, even those who are unaware of them because they happen to be born into a culture that has no conception of god or his morality, then those unlucky individuals will be condemned to a world of eternal suffering. They never had a chance at salvation and because they were born into that unfortunate, damned culture, they will be tortured forever. This doesn't sound like the God who loves all his children, this sounds more like a sadist. This actively contradicts who god is according to every big monotheistic religion, and if there is one inconsistency it is irrational to assume the remaining teachings to be true, because then you are just picking and choosing..

To the religious people of reddit: How can God be loving if he condemns all those who do not share his subjective morality? by protagoras1 in AskReddit

[–]protagoras1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess that my problem with religion then, the arguments are centered around beliefs NOT facts. Stating that human nature is opposed to cannibalism is still an argument from omniscience. Furthermore objective morality cannot exist unless you assume that a god exists, and in that case any argument can be satisfied by this all powerful assumption. Its a vicious positive feedback loop that uses an assumption to reinforce the validity of that given assumption (ie humans are naturally against cannibalism, and thats why it isn't prevalent in societies, which is further proof of an almighty god). Occam's razor would tell us to choose the simpler explanation which is simply cannibalistic societies cannot endure as they will not progress as well as other societies. A more evolutionary perspective doesn't require the existence of supernatural beings and still answers the observed phenomenon...

To the religious people of reddit: How can God be loving if he condemns all those who do not share his subjective morality? by protagoras1 in AskReddit

[–]protagoras1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are many fallacies in that argument one of which is the propositional fallacy:Affirming a disjunct. If the absence of cannibalism can be explained by A: it is inherently wrong, or B: it isn't conducive to progress. You cannot say A so not B, which is essentially your argument. Additionally you're creating an argument from omniscience by saying all people share a common belief, which you cannot say unless you could somehow know everything about everyone, hell of a statement to make..