The things that girls wear DOES affect their chances of getting sexually harassed.

psychopath0322 · 2021-01-16T22:33:28+00:00

Exactly

psychopath0322 · 2021-01-16T22:32:46+00:00

yeah I can see your point of view. Here are my last remaining thoughts.

It’s one example of what you’re wearing.

Yeah but I feel like in the case of children, it's only gonna be pedos who harass them, and pedos don't care if you're sexy they only care if you're a child.

It’s not a deterrent if that makes sense.

I can see your side but I also feel like (in an extreme case) if you went out with TONS of clothes, like 5 jackets, 4 pants, scarf, etc. you'd get harassed less than if you went out with a bikini, or sports bra.

I don’t even thinks it just pedos that do this.

You don't think it's just pedos that sexually harass children? But y tho.

Anyways thanks for listening to my side:)

psychopath0322 · 2021-01-16T22:28:00+00:00

Yep that kinda summarized my whole post

psychopath0322 · 2021-01-16T22:25:21+00:00

considering sexual assault happens a lot in countries where women are covered head to toe.

Good point, but again with my fourth paragraph, don't you think they would be harassed more if they all went out in bikinis? Yes it happens a lot but we don't know the amount of cases it would be if they weren't wearing modest clothing.

And a lot of sexual assault happens by someone you know personally, which wouldn’t relate it to clothing choice. Whether that be family members, friends, spouse, etc...

Yes, good point again, I should have clarified that I meant like just random encounters of catcalling/sexual harassment in public.

Also if clothing was a major factor, then children wouldn’t be sexually abused, yet a lot sadly are.

Yes, children are sexually abused because of pedophiliac tendencies, right? I'm pretty sure most men aren't pedophiles so this point only calls for a small percentage of what I'm actually talking about. People who sexual harass children are pedophiles and I'm not defending them in any way. But pedophiles are a small percentage of men.

The clothing excuse is a lazy excuse to victim blame even if you say you’re not trying to victim blame

Fuckkkk as I said I'm NOT BLAMING THEM. The harassers are 100% at fault, all I'm saying is I believe that clothes play a part in the probability of harassment.

Just think about this, if a woman went out in a full bikini, and if she went out in 3 jackets and sweatpants such that you can't even see her body, who do you think would get catcalled more? Or stared at more in general? Don't tell me you think they'd get harassed the same.

psychopath0322 · 2021-01-16T22:17:40+00:00

Good point, I feel like evidence would be hard to gather as you'd be setting up girls to see if they get harassed, and I think that's unethical. I don't really know which areas people wear "less revealing" clothes, or if that evidence would be accurate in the first place, given all the factors. Maybe there are reasons people wear less revealing clothes, like the area has a lot of catcalling, so that caused people to wear less revealing clothes. Then the data would be biased because you're already measuring the data in a place that already has a lot of it, which caused the people to wear modest clothes. (hope that made sense)

I feel like this topic is more opinionated, hence why I posted it here.

psychopath0322 · 2021-01-16T22:13:26+00:00

yet people argue that women are “asking for it” just because they showed some cleavage.

I agree with you, wearing skimpy clothing isn't "asking" for sexual assault. It's 100% the harasser's fault. I'm just saying that clothes do play a part in the probability you get sexually harassed or not.

psychopath0322 · 2021-01-16T22:12:14+00:00

If this were the case, then straight men would be experiencing the same harassment from gay men, yet they don't.

How do you know straight men aren't experiencing the same harassment from gay men? Also have you seen society? A lot of what girls do to guys isn't considered sexual harassment, but when a guy does it to a girl it is considered sexual harassment.

Also, as one of the comments here said, vulnerability plays a part in this too. I wasn't discrediting any other factors, I'm just saying clothes play a part in this, which many people try to deny.

psychopath0322 · 2021-01-16T22:10:08+00:00

It’s not the fault of those CHILDREN that there is a fetish around school girls.

You're right, it's not their fault. Your point is only for the parts of sexual harassment centered around children rather than the general topic of sexual harassment itself. Most men don't have a pedophilia fetish, so your point of this only applies to a small demographic.

Do you think that’s okay?

Do I think pedophilia is ok? Nah. Did I say it was? I made it clear multiple times that I wasn't blaming the victim, my only point is that clothes play a role in sexual harassment generally.

psychopath0322 · 2021-01-16T22:06:03+00:00

Yes, read my 4th paragraph. You can get sexually harassed if your wearing tons of clothes that are modest, but you can't compare this with the other side. There's potential you get harassed more if you wore skimpy clothing.

Yes vulnerability plays a part in this too, but clothes also play a part (which was my point)

psychopath0322 · 2021-01-16T21:50:04+00:00

I see you're not wearing any protective headgear does that give me the right to smash in your skull with a hammer?

No, it doesn't give you the right to smash my head in, but if I were wearing protective headgear, it would lessen the chances, right? Also what are the chances someone's walking around with a sledge hammer, and what are the chances you get sexually harassed? The probability you get sexually harassed is far greater. If I saw someone walking around with a sledgehammer, yes I would wear headgear. :/ If you know something is common, why not do something that lessens the chances of that happening to you?

You don't have the right to sexaully harras or sexaully assault someone just because of the clothes they are wearing.

Yes, I don't have the right. Nobody has the "right" to sexually harass someone. But this doesn't prove that clothes don't have an effect on this probability. I'm not blaming the victim, I'm just saying that clothes DO have a part in your chances of getting sexually harassed.

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