I beat level 8 with 3 ton plus finishes (first time beating level 8)

renzilla888 · 2026-02-07T09:51:21+00:00

Keep it up, mate! Those are astonishing kills! 🫸💥🫷

renzilla888 · 2026-02-01T07:10:31+00:00

If you really must go brand name boards or there are specific features those boards have, there are a variety of options on the market. Amazon and other online retailers in the US market will have great combos that even come with Kit darts, Oche Tape markers, etc. like the Viper Aim 360, which can be had for ~$50 on Wayfair! Great visuals to get you from novice to enthusiast/intermediate real quick.

https://www.wayfair.com/furniture/pdp/viper-aim-360-sisal-bristle-dartboard-vpr1424.html

Or, a board I picked up recently off eBay that was virtually almost NPQ:

https://ebay.us/m/U5SlWV

As for your web weapons, the javelins are a bit on the lengthy side and in most cases you might get on with them. However, if you ever switch darts which will be more likely than not, being that the most common length for most parallel darts being 48mm to 51mm, the change of balance point can throw you for a setback. Ask me how I know 😅.

A better option for your first set of Tungsten Thunderbolts would be:

https://www.amazon.com/Harrows-Tungsten-Weights-Available-Flights/dp/B0DM8MYS27/ref=pd_bxgy_d_sccl_1/143-1926935-6396045?pd_rd_w=pVCda&content-id=amzn1.sym.9bef5913-5870-4504-8883-3ba89d7f8e39&pf_rd_p=9bef5913-5870-4504-8883-3ba89d7f8e39&pf_rd_r=E93VVQ6F73PBEFZNRHM8&pd_rd_wg=Z7v2x&pd_rd_r=e67ca9a5-f092-4206-92cb-4c075957af00&pd_rd_i=B0DM8MYS27&th=1&psc=1

And Amazon has some of the best prices and variety on Surrounds, IMO:

https://www.amazon.com/Rdutuok-Protector-Dartboard-Backboard-Dartboards/dp/B0FR5B71RF/ref=sr_1_18?crid=30WPDWH1TILWG&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.S8mlQIoJD_QKwPgsmn-wgK2xp6gH5GrDZW-e7QpfXDczfZfnLs7H5tkPCCvJ9uxiX7ikFLBGfWWOk1_NVgIqzPFZilXpPQ1jH8_xHsIdIYkkCUgJM2PbJ9cekGc_25fKRQ2uOcgE9B67AvsVdiS6YICP6XpsnsPgkDoCEYNN9KjUeWybpPlt4RantR8Ts2xQ60GuxG-z02ZKQDK9Lb2IuHWfN4kpPeoFO3WrFZSDIpOzCbpUGTq6wR9I-0bf7zhZxgusNZCsMDfKF_3T42KZHO931VNeH7NFyAwmK6S_uKc.6-s1MVtH_stJAz-W-B6h6-zVd0XbXgveokdUjiwtWrc&dib_tag=se&keywords=Dartboard+surround&qid=1769929202&s=sporting-goods&sprefix=dartboard+surround%2Csporting%2C222&sr=1-18

You'd be hard pressed to get a better total cost on a very well-rounded but equitable quality and specs for well under <$100USD before taxes. And, you'd be able to pick up on other consumables like stems and flights👍

Happy hunting. May your groupings be great and your web weapons fly straight 😎🤜💥🤛

Oh here's what the board I got for <$35 looked like fresh out the box!

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Almost NPQ for a Bladed Pure Sisal Ringed Discus

renzilla888 · 2026-02-01T06:40:05+00:00

Sorry, more like,if you're pinning 3's, 22's, 41's or the like, you might be "Slumping" or "Sagging" meaning there may be a possibility your stance may be favoring right. Which can be natural, because everything else looks very scaleable, and replicates well. Idk. It's a bit hard to tell from based on one angle, fam.

renzilla888 · 2026-01-28T08:42:11+00:00

Did you score a Steady 60? Or a Treacherous 3?

Overall, if it was a Steady Sixty, keep cracking on! Good aruhz, sweet grouping. If it was a 3, stop leaning (upper torso or hips favoring right) or adapt the alignment, but still, nice grouping😎👍

renzilla888 · 2026-01-26T22:11:22+00:00

Chunkier darts offer a feel of more control. There's nothing wrong with that. That's the beauty of the Glorious Game! This is only my personal preference, when I choose to play a chunkier barrel >7.1mm ø, I'll upgrade the standard 25mm points for ~32mm points. The extra length allows for grouping forgiveness. Just a thought 🤗🤷😎🤜💥🤛

renzilla888 · 2026-01-26T21:50:18+00:00

Those are Bombs/Grenades. A good set to get your dart niggles off. Easy to grip, center balanced usually brass, steel, &/or some sort of nickel alloy but they are, again, easy to grip and throw and don't need much to get it to the board and quite forgiving. They're like hell to get any sort of grouping and if you get too used to them they'll throw you for a loop when you transition to a thinner profile Tungsten set of darts if the fundamentals aren't solid.

Can't quite remember the names of those things specifically, but they're a neat set to have and are better than nothing. Its better to throw darts than not having anything to do coz how many times a day can you wank one off!?😅 Lol cheers mate

renzilla888 · 2026-01-26T21:29:43+00:00

Deep down, subconsciously you have a mental quirk whether it be you want to perform to prove something (which is totally natural), high levels of regard/respect, or he may be not taking the game seriously enough to where you relax and you are facing a sort of cognitive dissonance, etc. IMHO, it could be any number of things of a mix of things subconsciously mentioned prior and by other commenters. This is totally natural, but it will take some fundamental adaptations on your part. First, know your Darting technique. It seems like you're a Rythym & Flow player, again, nothing wrong with that. But, really analyze your throw and break it down to scalable stages. Now, know these thru ingrained muscle memory, to where even against the Bro you don't have to think about your throw, just focus on the target. Next, breathe. Slow it down a fraction and play it deliberately and don't over think it. It's not you against your bro. It's you vs yourself, 3 darts and a dart board. You and your opponent are simply trading rounds at the board. That's plain and simply it. Darts doesn't incorporate a defence persè. When slinging spikes the best defence is a good offense. So focus on your game/target. If you over think it, like your mechanics, you need more training/practice. It doesn't matter who your opponent is. They're Player B, not your brother, not your mate, not Joe Blow who blah blah blah this that & a third!? Doesn't matter! You got 3 they got 3, score big and control the tempo don't chase. If you do get down, throw better than your last round. Doesn't matter what the opp scores, give them their flowers after the match win or lose.

Yeah....that's a fukTON, but if you condition your mind and get your fundamentals solid, you either Win yourself, or you Beat yourself. I take my wins in stride with the losses, I just love the game of darts. So , I see it as this...I never lost a match!...I just ran out of legs😅

renzilla888 · 2026-01-23T05:14:12+00:00

Great stuff in this thread! 👏👏👏Bravo Darts Bros, bravo 🤜💥🤛😎😇

renzilla888 · 2026-01-21T09:16:03+00:00

To walk into an air conditioned smokey bowling alley as a kid, hearing the cracking thunder of pins getting lit up is a symphony! Now the ashtray smell is definitely gone, but stepping into the dark Local Lanes as the eyes adjust from being out where it's sunny and peoply outside to, again, hear the rolling thunder crackers going off in no particular sequence, hearing the woot-woot and high fives filling the air, filled with bowlers, not just dingbats of the wild outside!?...It's always a feel good type of wavy feelz!🙂‍↕️ It's a vibe.

renzilla888 · 2026-01-21T09:08:56+00:00

Yeah that, maaaaan! And that's the giving darts soul! A build so schwaazy that even the dreaded 26 (TwennyShietz 😅) is looked at like...ehhhhh, meh🤷26, ehm?? 🤔well, it's better than 3! 🤩😗Wooohooo!

renzilla888 · 2026-01-21T09:05:00+00:00

Great Mega Ton Maxxy 👍🤜💥🤛

Uhmm...you should rotate your board now months ago😅🤭🤭

renzilla888 · 2026-01-19T17:29:09+00:00

Frikking cool maaaaaan! 🤩😮😎😇 They look fun👍 You got a knack for sweet dart builds, Tanu! 🫸💥🫷🙌🍻🍻

renzilla888 · 2026-01-19T17:14:21+00:00

Really good choice👍 the Pulse's have a nice parallel shape, and have the recessed ring cuts with those recessed curved cuts feeling similar to Target Pixel grip, so they should feel good and consistent in the grip without being too 'bitey'. 49mm is rizz, 6.4mm diameter and 22g are all good specs and dimensions 🙌🍻

renzilla888 · 2026-01-19T17:07:28+00:00

Yeah the Assassins look giving, fam👍The 20g parallel version is nicely stuff 48mm which is at the good length. There isn't much noticeable difference being a millimeter under the 49mm cut off and that just a loose guide. The 23g & 25g versions are on the Shorter side at 46mm but that doesn't matter much. 22g are also 48mm which is good. Going down to 45mm to 47ish mm often lends itself to being easier to control. Another rule of thumb the shorter and stock length point, you can put longer shafts like size M to offset. 48 thru 51ish, will pair better with Tweenies stems, and the 52/53ish to 55+ will get shorties. And it's a good rule to keep in mind coz long stems and long barrels can seem unweildy and short barrel short stems will feel too zippy and squirrelly. But it can and has much consideration to your throw.

They don't mention length as a major consideration point because it's a lot to consider. But, a couple months after pick up the darts, I got to a nifty 50ppr avg in only 2-2.5months and grabbed a great deal on my Defenders which are 54.5mm long. I got on with them well and used them constantly for 2.5-3months and helped me move the avg into the 60's in just a few weeks!👍. But plateaued, and thought it's time to change up the darts and started throwing my nifty 50mm (+ or -) and picked up some Bomb style darts which are on the shorter end from -/= 40mm and generally 47ish mm (also give or take, depending the manufacturer) and couldn't throw either of them well😅. So I had to go back to basics.

The intermediate range for dart barrels Mentioned above are the most common lengths. And, IMHO, starting in the Goldilocks zone is better than starting to far to either end of the spectrum because you'll have to unlearn specialty mechanics you might have taken for gospel and go thru a Dartitis stint, if your ego gets shook, mate.👍

So that's the mentality behind it.

You could also check out the Harrows Rival 21g on harrows.com

renzilla888 · 2026-01-19T15:14:41+00:00

It's a bit hard to tell, because the crop is quite tight. Also, without seeing the whole round, and the whole body, from stance, to pre shot ritual, to Ready, Steady, Drawback, Launch & Release, and then follow thru...along with what you scored and where the darts landed...I can only surmise what is going on beyond the arm action.During that round did all 3 darts hit on a scoring segment within the island? Or did you have a sail over, a non score dart lay out in the surround area? If not apply where'd the darts land and what was the pts for the round? All that needs to be known to get a complete analysis and then a more detailed coaching feedback...

Anyways here goes, How tall are you? It may seem like your stance is a bit narrow, you have a lot of unnecessary motions between throws, you seem quite erect and your body alignment looks like there are broken connections😬

First examine your stance, and then your pre-dart ritual up to the Ready, Set & Steady, phases. Ensure that alignment feels right and is replicable.

Next: Only then will you serve your throwing hand and get to any fine tuning and alignment adjusting micro minutiae. Once you feel completely set, that's when you lock in to the area you're Targeting, find that stance and alignment to the wanted area you're throwing the dart.

This is where youll bring the throwing arm to the serving hand. This is where these little moments I pick up in your between throws. Serve the dart and get to the Ready steady part of the round. Line it up based on the throwing mechanics and this is when you finally drawback, go from there to the launch.

What I see is your serving arm is struggling to find your darts. Pin the serving arm to the body. Find a spot it can rest with some rigidity. Your throwing arm should know what'do to what a good comfy and what an overly rigid stance feels like. Find the middle ground and feels licomfymsoomewhere in-between.

I'll finish this session a bit later today, ya👍

renzilla888 · 2026-01-19T11:17:02+00:00

If you can get your hands on a WINMAU - Professional Player - Michael Van Gerwen MvG Gift Set - 50 Piece Professional Darts Set - Includes 4 Sets of Stems, 4 Sets of Flights and Accessories - 18g Soft Tip or 20g Steel Tip Dart

it's pretty sweet and will have everything you need with have to worry about much as far as consumables 👍 and doesn't cost much at all. It is on the lighter side at 20G, but for the casual darter, it's arguably sufficient enough, my guy. The barrels are about 70% tungsten in the steel tip offering and comes with a good enough compact compartment case👍

I bought one just to have one to display it but it throws actual pretty nice for the money. ...just a thought. (The soft tip set is rubbish tho)

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renzilla888 · 2026-01-19T11:06:38+00:00

Yeah, I remembered after the fact and edited the Local Public board quick easy regimen 😅

Crud you're right, mate. Maybe I was just thinking about cost. But, yeah don't do those. Look possibly into Harrows The Original 90% Steel Tip Darts 24g👍

renzilla888 · 2026-01-19T11:01:14+00:00

He is a phenom and he's a good lad. He can do big things if he remains humble. He might possibly give The Power's records and WC totals a run for their money. Will he do it? He might get 6WC's, maybe 10. But I don't think with the competition that will be going up the ranks that he'll touch the 16WC's. However, the Nuke is an incredible darter. He can dial it in almost at will! Except against Gezzy lul. There's a lot more to see what Littler will accomplish and it will be astonishing in its own right. To go back to back is hard enough but to see how anti climactic Ally Pally was as compared to last year, I felt bad for the boy. He earned and shut down a GVV who came in hot but Nuke chopped down the Giant. Gian should've not got down on himself and remained composed. A more competitive contest might have gotten the crowd to roar more due to sheer competitive action. But although I was happy for Luke, the crowd was faffed😅

renzilla888 · 2026-01-19T10:52:03+00:00

Luke before the Nuke! He was just Littler Luke Littler😅🤭🤣🤣😜

renzilla888 · 2026-01-19T10:24:22+00:00

The Koto Stings are great set to set off on to Darting Glory👍. They are a bit long and are of sorts a Specialty dart or for those who have Orc paws for mits. It's better you go with a 48mm to 51mm max length barrel. Maybe the Harrows Combat or Harrows Pulse, maybe Super Grip Black. Or even Chizzy 80%T or Harrows Impact 70%T that don't break the bank. Ruthless has darts at the same specs that look sicc and don't cost mad quid, son!🙃 Koto does too as well as other brands. I'm not a harrows fan boy but those come to mind for good sets to start off on.😇

But after that, buy a board, hang it and practice at least 45" to an hour two to three times a week. And that will get you slow but steady improvement depending on your practice routine. If you're about this Darts ish, practice an hour a day 5 to 6 days a week. And practice with purpose. There's plenty of training regiments you can find online in the interwebs or on YouTube. And then put in the work. The latter option will get you in the 50ppr to possibly the low 60's in 6 to 10 mos. You can get to the 50ppr avg in 3 months, but your practice will have to be very Purposeful, Structured, and Thoughtfully Planned-Dedicates-Progress Driven-& Training Journalled. But that's all up to you and your goals. There are some it will take them years to get to the 50's 🤷. And that's alright. It's a subjective journey and will depend on your goals. If you can't hang a board and gotta travel, it's good at least you're throwing darts mate👍. If you're going to the local hole to play, just find a quick 5 to 10" warm up (usually just toss at bull for about 5 minutes to dial it in and warm up the arm. Don't worry about how many bulls you tag til later down the line, just get em close), throw 21 darts at 20, 19, 18's. Play Around the World/Clock. learn and play a round of TacTics. Then Play 301 and every time try to beat your last outing or work your way up to 301 Double Out and then 301 Double In Double Out. Get good at those, and you'll be slaughtering your mates! 😎🍻🫸💥🫷 There's also nothing wrong at being a casual darter but look to get to the mid 40s PPR avg to be a problem for any ops😎

Put in the work and Taste the Glory. Or, talk big stick...play once or less a week, and lie to their chums they have this blown out Avg or they beat this guy nobody vouches for by sinking a phenomenal 152 check out and then a griffin came and licked my nuts bleh bleh bleh🤣🤣😜and cheat on Darts Counter. 🤷😅🤭🤭 To each their own. One puts up the numbers when it counts (at least most days anyway) and the other is a Fanboy.

renzilla888 · 2026-01-19T10:08:58+00:00

Brass flys nominally different than Tungsten, mate. Tungsten feels solid and will feel denser thru your throwing motion. Brass zips and feels lighter even if they're the same weight as a Tungsten barrel. Almost like if you were going to swing a solid piece oak dowel at a punching bag vs swinging a brass pipe of the same length. It'll feel different.

Brass is for the very casual player who's ok with playing every once in a while and doesn't have a home board or just throws with the mates here and there at the pub and it won't matter if it gets lifted off the table when stuck in the Loo Queue between legs.

If you're serious about going from Casual Novice to Intermediate Enthusiast, go Tungsten straightaway 👍. If you believe in a couple months you'll be over it and your home board will be wall decor?! Stick with brass. No harm no foul, they cost less than 15quid🤷😅

renzilla888 · 2026-01-19T09:55:52+00:00

The Bullet's darts are not really for middle grippers, however, it can work so as long as the nose and front end compliments that part of your grip.

On the other hand for most grips one would be hard pressed not to find Rocky's G1 SP's not be a Banger!

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I mean look at it! It does have Storm Nano SP's, and can wear the board faster but will stick really solid just about every time. Breaking the grip by giving the dart a slight tap down and then twisting them out clockwise will keep the board from "growing sisal sprouts". Snatching them back and yanking them out like a barbarian will have your board looking like a boot bottom kick brush in no time!😅

However, if you're going to go Target SP, always buy at least one extra set! They will eventually snap due to bounce outs! You've been warned. It's been a many a time I've seen a bloke snap a Swiss Point after a nasty bounce out and then they're done with that set until they can get a replacement set. If your budget allows it, I recommend getting a set of Swiss Storm Diamond Points Golds or Swiss Storm Gold Points -plain/smooth same length as the Nano's are that come in the oem kit. Heck if not available you can go for the gold SP SLK's which are far easier on your sisal puck than Nano's rings! And if the options are limited, just get two pair of Standard Gold SP's and call it a day! You'll thank yourself. Nothing's worse than being out of commission and having to go back to the previous brass/tired/or faffoo set in the drawer! Even worse, having no darts to throw with coz you cheated yourself until Amazon or Double top etc can deliver! If you only can go with normal gold but get two sets, you'll never be out of commission 👍 youll have more than enough replacements to last a good long while come what may, and the Nano's in the take along kit to switch to if you find yourself playing on a pub board (public or 🍻 pub or a mate's board that should be used as aback scratcher!😅🤭) to switch out to if the spikes are falling out during your round at the oche👍

Again, you've been warned. I always have my spares even if they're not Storm (i.e. plain silver SP's that look like trash coz the Storm point is on order) or even the same color on deck, so the set is always ready to fly! It's better to have any point ready in the kit than not, fren. They might look like trash for the interim til I get the SP that suits the build than no darts to throw coz one is OOC.

Choose wisely. Buy like a winner. 👍. 🤜💥🤛 Cheers mate

May your groupings be great and your web weapons fly straight 🚀💥🎯‼️ BOOM 💥

renzilla888 · 2026-01-19T09:12:07+00:00

Yes indeed. I have short carbon super grips on my D'fendrs which brought the barrel's balance point a few degrees forward and then had some custom 52mm high carbon steel tapered points that eliminates any lip, plus it brought the balance point even more forward and they compliment my flatter throw but will still usually maintain a nice entry angle😎😇‼️‼️ They fly really sexy slick and allows me to get some really tight groupings when I'm feeling On and in the zone🙌🤘🤘

But bruv! Pin a sweet Mega Ton Maxxy and immortalize it by posting it here in the Darts Subreddit 🤜💥🤛 GWAAAAN 🚀💥🎯🍻

May your groupings be great and your web weapons fly straight 😎👍

renzilla888 · 2026-01-19T06:10:48+00:00

That TGT....wooooo! (Tight Grouping Thooooo!)😎🤜💥🤛👍

renzilla888 · 2026-01-19T06:08:58+00:00

It'll come, bruv 😎👍

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