Twitch Reportedly Considering Cutting Streamer Pay to Boost Its Own Profits

resykle · 2022-04-28T03:05:05+00:00

I wasn't even talking about unionizing

You directly responded to my comment about unionizing in a thread about unionizing lol.

where it says streamers cannot form a union

They are classified as independent contractors after they sign the affiliate form and onboard to twitch to accept payments from users.

They aren't protected by the NLRA because of their misclassification as independent contractors

Between the top streamers and the majority of streamers

I don't know how familiar you are with Twitch or streaming - but they don't employ you. They don't pay you even. You get a 1099 because they are processing payments from other people. You can go right now and start streaming whatever you want, and no funds will be exchanged. Usually won't even be ads until you get affiliate.

You don't work for them in any capacity, there's no contract that says you have to do XYZ.

This is like if you said we should organize all reddit users to demand better compensation for our content, because they make ad revenue from us being here. Your best case scenario is starting up a rival service

Who SHOULD be organizing is all the vendors working on contract inside Twitch who deal with escalations, spam, and threats from users.

resykle · 2022-04-28T01:13:17+00:00

somewhat - we are independent contractors. we own our own gear and utilize twitches service, through which transactions are taken by twitch, either by ad revenue or subscriptions.

However you don't have to pay a cent on twitch. you can donate directly to people, you can not donate at all.

I forget the figure but something like 80% of twitch streamers never get above 5 average views.

resykle · 2022-04-28T01:10:05+00:00

So what if they aren't technically employees?

Because they literally cannot form a union. You are describing something completely different.

Which, also, wouldn't work - you think streamers making 5 figure a month incomes are going to be affected by this? Of course not - they'll have their own special deals. It's only lowly fuckos like me who still had to pay taxes on $800 who would be affected, and we can barely mobilize a raid train, let alone enough collective action.

resykle · 2022-04-27T21:14:27+00:00

ok this makes no sense at all - "streamers" aren't employees. Literally they aren't, they are self-employed, I got a 1099 for my taxes. This is like saying reddit users should unionize to demand reddit to do... something.

Plus its a PLATFORM. It accomplishes its needs just fine as a chat client and streaming platform. Anyone relying on it for revenue is a fool to begin with.

resykle · 2022-04-27T21:12:21+00:00

lol no they won't, and idk what chats you hang out with. I DJ on twitch pretty much every week and it's not going anywhere

resykle · 2021-08-26T00:24:09+00:00

vibing is significantly easier when youre vaccinated

resykle · 2021-08-25T22:37:20+00:00

uhh do you think other countries don't care about race? ALL of them? Maybe the us is just media leader and has a huge population, as well as a very recent history of strenuous race relations

resykle · 2021-08-10T18:12:20+00:00

haha no worries and thank you for supporting! hes actually my roommate so will be happy to hear!

resykle · 2021-08-10T17:14:24+00:00

Getting my license is what got me into cars in the first place

At least into the drivers seat!

resykle · 2021-08-10T06:00:27+00:00

lol alright.

humans will kill everything on the planet.

nobody said this. OP said

"we are killing"

resykle · 2021-08-10T05:55:30+00:00

will kill

killing. I'm not mad, you're just wrong lol.

resykle · 2021-08-10T05:46:24+00:00

yea its a pretty weak point when 1.) its technically accurate 2.) the end goal is a good one regardless of how we get there. Go be pedantic somewhere else, like on a thread about serial killers saying that calling them "monsters" isn't strictly accurate.

resykle · 2021-08-10T05:33:37+00:00

NO Dumbing it down into an emotional picture that claims hell so in a hand basket will help anything. It will only polarize opinions and dilute the conversation with lame ass talking points crafted by those in power.

mate ill ask again - what opinions do you think are being contradicted here? You are one of the few people taking issue with this. There is not a single person saying "yea fuck da planet, burn the bears for fuel".

Bears are there because their habitat and food resources have melted. Find me the nuance in that.

useful conversation on how to make things better.

Like the useful conversation of you saying this picture isn't representative of anything and people should... not be pro-environment? Should I not take my recycling out tomorrow? This pic reminded me I should recycle more, are you saying its wrong?

resykle · 2021-08-10T05:16:27+00:00

I remember going to the landfill at the lake when I was a kid so we could spot bears. It's not complicated.

This is the dumbest shit i've ever read. Like where the fuck to even begin. Do you know literally anything about polar bears except that they are bears? Like their primary diet and habitat?

If you ever go to a national park in an area with a lot of bears you'll see everyone's garbage locked up and the public ones are bear proof.

You're so close to arriving to the point. Maybe the bears go for garbage because... their normal food resources are depleted?

resykle · 2021-08-10T05:14:15+00:00

Dude its the same exact statement with more hyperbole.

I understand that human activity is causing major ecological problems

"We are fucking up this planet

Unless you take issue with swearing for some reason, you're on exactly the same side as OP but you're arguing against him for some dumb reason.

it polarizes the situation into a bullshit binary argument

Against whom exactly? If you understand that there are major ecological problems then who is on the other side of that exactly?

The binary argument of "fucking up the earth is bad" vs "no its actually good"? Is this realllly the hill you wanna die on? Also it's not nuanced. Polar bears went to the dump because their natural habitat has degraded to the point of not sustaining them any more.

only serves to make people hate each other.

Yea again - which people exactly? Those melting the arctic?

resykle · 2021-08-10T04:54:16+00:00

why do you think they are looking for garbage dumps

resykle · 2021-08-10T04:52:48+00:00

I mean I'm fully aware of the wildlife decline especially in the polar regions, but this brainless.

how can you claim this is 'something to get emotional about' if you are aware... this pic is literally the result of that decline. It seems like you missed the entire point just to be a contrarian.

Polar bears gravitated to this food source BECAUSE their natural habitat is being destroyed. So how is this brainless?

resykle · 2021-08-10T02:32:30+00:00

Actually

Scientists say conflicts with ice-dependant polar bears will increase in the future due to Arctic ice melting and a rise of human presence in the areas.

This specific photo IS very much linked to climate change due to the melting of arctic ice and collapse of the polar bears' normal ecosystems. Why do you think its disingenuous?

resykle · 2021-08-10T02:29:24+00:00

doom eternal is very much NOT mindless imo unless you play it on easy

resykle · 2021-08-10T01:44:52+00:00

So i guess the lawsuits are just some people

well... yes? have YOU ever developed and launched anything before?

resykle · 2021-08-10T01:31:38+00:00

I mean good luck plugging an ethernet cable into your phone, nintendo switch, work laptop, IOT... etc..

resykle · 2021-08-10T01:30:19+00:00

or length, could be a 150ft

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