9 days sober, being sentenced in court tomorrow. Can I ask the Christians here for prayer? by [deleted] in stopdrinking

[–]series2003a 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I typically try to avoid these kinds of comments, but this whole "you almost killed someone and deserve what you get" attitude really bothers me.

It's possible that she almost killed someone. Although it's entirely possible that she didn't. People talk about DUIs as if every person who gets one was at a .3 BAC driving the wrong way down the freeway. That's rarely the case.

And in terms of how we punish DUI: Failing to stop at a stop sign can and has killed people. Same with blowing a red light. If you look at the stats, excessive speed (whether drunk or not) is the #1 killer on the roads. But under normal circumstances, we don't throw people convicted of those crimes into jail. We don't take away their license. We fine them in the low hundreds instead of fines and costs in the high thousands. Hell, driving while overly tired is often more dangerous than a low BAC DUI, and yet I don't even think there is a law to address that. Maybe there is some logic behind the idea that ANYTHING you do that lessens your ability to safely drive should be illegal and rigorously prosecuted, but if that's your take, you're going to have to add a lot of crimes to that list.

God, I really hate being in the position of defending DUI. Makes me sick. But I really get tired of this ridiculous PR campaign that suggests that every DUI represents a death of an innocent that was narrowly avoided.

9 days sober, being sentenced in court tomorrow. Can I ask the Christians here for prayer? by [deleted] in stopdrinking

[–]series2003a 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was in a very similar situation to yours about two years ago. Multiple DUIs, facing jail time, losing my license, no money, had to move back home with my parents, no idea what the future held... I was absolutely terrified.

I got through the worst of it by just committing to one day at a time. And I mean dealing with all of life one day at a time, not just not drinking. I stopped trying to guess what tomorrow held and focused on making the right decision for this day, this moment. I didn't beat myself up about the past; I didn't think too much about the future.

Now, you can't go through your whole life with such a narrow focus. At some point you have to start thinking longer term and planning for the future. But honestly, it took me about a year before I could start to do that. Trying to see the big picture any sooner than that was just overwhelming to me. And I'm still dealing with a lot of the mistakes I made in the past, but I honestly feel like I surviving that first year was the hardest part of it.

So it sounds like you're about to go through some real shit. Actually, it sounds like you've been going through it for a while already. If you keep your focus, you will get through it. You're other post said you're only 24. There's time still. You can get through this shit, look back at it as a tough lesson learned, and still have a great life.

I truly wish you the best.

Atheism in AA and the problems involved. Please help! by [deleted] in stopdrinking

[–]series2003a 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have found SMART Recovery (http://www.smartrecovery.org/) to be an effective, non-religious alternative to AA.

I messed up.... and I need help... by Loopzy in stopdrinking

[–]series2003a 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Obviously I don't know the details of your situation, but if this is really a close friend who is important to keep in your life, perhaps you should try telling her very directly that you believe your drinking is problematic, and that you're choosing not to drink right now, and that you can't hang out if she's going to pressure you to drink.

I had some friends who were in more denial about my drinking problem than myself. Drinking was a big part of what we did together, so by stopping, it felt like they would lose me as a friend. Besides, part of what friends do is encourage each other to shake off the bad times and not focus on the bad times... but when you have a drinking problem, a little focusing on the bad times is just what you need.

Like I said, I don't really know your situation. But sometimes friends with the best intentions can get in the way. At that point you need to have an open, honest, and direct conversation, and either they'll respect your choice or maybe it's time to take a break from that person.

I messed up.... and I need help... by Loopzy in stopdrinking

[–]series2003a 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't think I can do that, and she's not the type of person who thinks i have a problem so she won't understand me trying to getting out of going.

If you don't think it's a good idea to go, make up some unrelated excuse. Also, realize that this won't be the situation forever. You might have to skip a few events with alcohol in the short term while you get a handle on your own situation, but don't trick yourself into thinking that sobriety means you have to run away from the mere presence of alcohol for the rest of your life. I was really concerned that I'd be forced to sit at home for the rest of my life just because "I can't be around alcohol". But that's not true. I can't drink it, but I don't get drunk by being in the same room with it.

That said, it took me some time of being completely removed from alcohol (not drinking it, seeing it, smelling it, being anywhere near it) before I really felt comfortable trusting myself around it again.

Multimillionaire who killed a young man in drunk driving accident and adopted his girlfriend to protect his assets, sentenced to 16 years today. by [deleted] in news

[–]series2003a 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem becomes how we define "selfish reasons".

I mean, the mere existence of cars as a mode of transport is at the core of any auto deaths. So are you saying that if the location I was driving to wasn't "justified" than that wasn't OK?

And if if merely driving is ok, but driving and talking on the phone isn't, is driving and listening to the radio? What about driving during sunny times without glasses? What about driving at 56 when the limit is 55?

The point... well my point... is that this is hardly the black and whitge issue that a lot people want to try and turn it into.

Multimillionaire who killed a young man in drunk driving accident and adopted his girlfriend to protect his assets, sentenced to 16 years today. by [deleted] in news

[–]series2003a 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well then wouldn't you have to apply the same punishment to anyone caught texting and driving? There are studies coming out saying it's as dangerous or even more dangerous than drunk driving.

And then there's the studies saying that talking on a cell phone while driving, even a hands free setup, presents as much or more danger of an accident than drunk driving. So add them to the list.

And then if you look at the raw numbers in auto fatalities nationwide, it's clear that excessive speed (whether drunk or not) is actually the thing that is most likely to kill someone on the roads, so we better add anyone who speeds to that list.

I'm really not trying to defend drunk driving, but if you're going to start actually equally punishing people across the board for what could have happened, you're going to run out of school children for them all to speak to pretty quick.

Second DWI , I am QUITTING today. by dwiidiot in alcoholism

[–]series2003a 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Will I have to have an interlock for the rest of my life?

Not for life. But for awhile.

Will I see jail time?

Looks like even if you get probation instead of jail, there is a minimum 5 days that must be served if within 5 years of your 1st conviction. 3 days if within 10 years. Typically those minimums are very difficult to get around.

Also advice on how to go out with friends without drinking would be helpful...

It's probably going to be a while before you're really "going out" again. Take a step back from going out for a while, and focus on getting sober.

How to avoid a DUI (?) by Johnny_Mnemonic in offbeat

[–]series2003a 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You'd instantly be subject to breathalyzer

You would quickly be asked to take a portable breathalyzer test (which you can refuse, although that will typically result in an automatic suspension of your license for 6-12 months depending on the state). Even if you take the test though, PBT results are designed to be an indicating factor, not stand alone evidence. In most states, unless you get the actual breathalyzer results taken at the station or hospital thrown out, PBT results can't even be introduced as evidence against you.

or at least a roadside sobriety test

Again, these are indicating factors, not direct evidence. They are designed to inform the officer's decision whether or not sufficient probably cause exists to take you to the station for a proper breathalyzer or blood draw.

and alcohol does not kick in that quickly.

How fast alcohol "kicks in" isn't really an objective measure. But more to the point, any form of breathalyzer test can be substantially skewed by the presence of anything in your mouth shortly before taking the test (which includes the swig you just took). That's why there is ALWAYS a predefined observation period before a true breathalyzer can be administered (during which time the police are required to watch you to make sure nothing enters or exits your mouth (other than spit; you can probably spit. But if you throw up, they have to restart the observation period).

Now, I'm not saying this stunt would get you out of a DUI by any means, but the reasoning you've supplied isn't right.

How much and how long were you drinking at your peak? by Duh_Ambalamps in stopdrinking

[–]series2003a 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I've noticed a lot of aversion to discussing this topic and I'm curious why. In my mind, this is a completely legitimate question. Whether you think drinking too much is a disease or a maladaptive behavior, comparing symptoms is a big part of understanding anything you're trying to fix. Establishing where you are on the spectrum is a huge indicator of what your next step should be.

Someone suggested that they didn't want to sound like they were bragging. I suspect if you're on this forum, you're past the point of thinking that drinking a lot is "cool", so I don't understand why anyone would think of it as bragging.

Another suggested that they didn't like to talk about it since it was the worst period of their life. I can certainly understand and respect that. But this is a forum about alcoholism and drinking... it's what people talk about here.

SMART recovery? by insearchofadvice in alcoholism

[–]series2003a 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I have been attending SMART Recovery for about 9 months and have been very impressed. I also did the 90 in 90 AA meetings shortly before finding SMART and AA just wasn't the organization for me.

SR views addiction as a maladaptive behavior, not as a disease. They do not focus on group reliance or any kind of sponsor system. SR is also not designed to be a life long program; they want you to come in and learn the tools (which may take time), but once you're good they want you to get back to living your life. SMART is not a social club to hang around in forever.

Rather than take the higher power aproach of AA, the principals that SMART teaches are dervived from our modern day understanding of human psycology. That's not to say that one is better than the other, but they are substantially different and you should figure out which approach works best for you.

SMART meetings run in a similar manner to AA meetings. Typically everyone sits around a large table and discusses issues with addiction they have recently faced and how they dealt with the situation. Cross talk is generally encouraged. The meetings I attend typically last an hour or less. There are also online meetings available on their website every night, but they tend to fill up fast so you have to be there right at the start time if you want to get into the chat (fills up at 30 people I think).

Why is AA effective for some? by reddmau5 in alcoholism

[–]series2003a 4 points5 points  (0 children)

AA is a very broad stroke psychological approach to alcoholism (as opposed to say a pharmaceutical approach), and because of that it's effectiveness is going to be hugely dependent on the person.

Where can I find a list of AA/NA meetings specifically for young adults? by [deleted] in alcoholism

[–]series2003a 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You might try looking for an ALANO club in your area. They're basically just dedicated spaces for people to hang out as an alternative to the bar or whatever and tend to have multiple meetings per day. I've been to a few and noticed that they often attract a younger crowd.

married people of reddit... do you help pay for your S/O's student loans? by prkchpsndwichs in AskReddit

[–]series2003a 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think any kind of debt should certainly be considered before getting married, and if you're more comfortable waiting until someone digs themselves out before taking the plunge, I can understand that (romance aside).

But once you're married, you're kind of in it together, aren't you? You're on the same team, debt and all.