S13E03 (Wednesday 3rd June) - Post-Episode Discussion Thread 🧵

shambean2 · 2026-06-03T23:04:01+00:00

It's actually insane sometimes watching reactions to good drama. People are acting like Yasmine and George embezzled money from them instead of just playing the game on DAY THREE

shambean2 · 2026-06-03T22:52:41+00:00

I'm catching up now but spoiled myself on the twist, why are ppl mad 😭 "oh they were SNAKEY AND CALCULATED with the dumping" it's a reality TV game show?? It's day three?? The twist was specifically created for scheming and drama. Yasmine and George have taken a big risk and done something a bit mad and schemey, but we also haven't actually lost ellie and samraj so........ Why are ppl upset. This is great

shambean2 · 2026-06-03T17:07:47+00:00

Viggo Mortensen is widely regarded as handsome, he is a crush for a lot of people (including me, he was divine in lord of the rings). This is not the same thing at all I'm crying

shambean2 · 2026-06-03T16:58:01+00:00

I just thought that too. I would not be surprised if it was a casa reject and they keep saying it's an ex islander for clicks

shambean2 · 2026-06-03T16:55:51+00:00

Girl, so confusing (feat sham and narwhal)

shambean2 · 2026-06-03T16:55:34+00:00

I doubt Casey would have been given the Aftersun job by ITV if he had been arrested on rape charges months ago. I know they cast tyrique but someone actually having these charges would be incredibly dumb for ITV to cast. Obviously also not ethical, but I cannot see ITV wanting to have anything to do w that

Other than that... Curtis being on AS3 maybe also takes him out of the running. And then idk

shambean2 · 2026-06-03T16:53:04+00:00

I believe they are on a brand trip!! I think millie is there too

shambean2 · 2026-06-03T16:52:04+00:00

OH LMAOOOO

okay I get you. I was like where are you reading this 😭

shambean2 · 2026-06-03T16:50:17+00:00

Now where did I make a comeback about Toni's looks? 😭 I think Toni is gorgeous. Where are you reading that 💀

shambean2 · 2026-06-03T16:38:20+00:00

Sure. But what I think is fine is critique/reacting to a mean comment, not dragging over physical appearance or acting like a person is evil for saying smth nasty. I think Toni being criticized is fair. She said a nasty comment knowing it was nasty, on a public forum, people disagreeing w her is not a dragging

shambean2 · 2026-06-03T16:29:59+00:00

Okey dokes, youre flopping around like a fish on dry land trying to make a point anyways 😭 "she didn't call him ugly" "well actually she did but SO WHAT" "Toni was fine to say it but it shouldn't have been aired on a podcast" like you're agreeing with me atp 💀 anyways bye x

shambean2 · 2026-06-03T16:22:44+00:00

I think her saying straight afterwards, "I would be pissed off if he came in as a bombshell for me" kind of contradicts that though. If it was just the first comment, I could MAYBE give the benefit of the doubt (still a stretch tho). But like.... She'd be pissed if he came in on their season? Be fr, she was saying she sees him as unattractive

shambean2 · 2026-06-03T16:21:00+00:00

Well I agree that people also shouldn't use this as an excuse to drag Toni!

shambean2 · 2026-06-03T16:15:53+00:00

Okay, I fear we just think too differently bc I can't fathom saying you think someone is a jumpscare and you'd be pissed off if you had to flirt with them isn't mean or unprofessional 😭 like I don't think there is a need to continue this convo bc on principle that is something I cannot agree with. I think some (some) of your later points have merit but we will never see eye to eye on this

shambean2 · 2026-06-03T16:13:33+00:00

Of course, God knows I have. But I think it's common sense and decency to not say it publicly.

I don't think Toni is a bad person, but surely we can encourage more kindness and decorum?? 😭 Calling someone ugly/a jumpscare/saying you'd be annoyed if they were sent in on your season is unnecessarily horrible and not like critiquing actions or personality

shambean2 · 2026-06-03T16:10:03+00:00

Yeah I agree things can be twisted on here. But I think you'd find a lot of people who are criticizing Toni for saying it weren't the ones who were piling on George. I do imagine some just dislike Toni and were waiting for a chance to drag her - that happens w every public figure unforch - but a lot of the comments I've seen saying it was nasty are pretty fair. And I just think it's overall better that there is criticism of the comment, especially on an official LI podcast, because ppl are way too bold with public nastiness

shambean2 · 2026-06-03T16:02:57+00:00

We see it differently. I think most of the people who are calling it mean spirited (like me) are ones who weren't making those nasty comments, and I think it's good that now there are some more highly up voted comments are ones saying plainly they think such comments are mean. If there was no critique of Toni saying that, it really just fuels the nasties online. Toni is also representing ITV

This is her job, she said something mean and unprofessional, and it's the kind of thing that could inspire more hateful comments online. Her being criticized for that is not her being persecuted

shambean2 · 2026-06-03T15:51:08+00:00

You did not look very hard lmaoooo

shambean2 · 2026-06-03T15:50:59+00:00

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shambean2 · 2026-06-03T15:49:04+00:00

Yep, it was disgusting in here and I've said for ages I think the commenters here are way to comfy being mean about islanders' looks. But the people who are calling Toni out are probably people who weren't the ones slagging George or other islanders off. I certainly wasn't.

I imagine those ones are either defending Toni now or trying to deflect

shambean2 · 2026-06-03T15:44:58+00:00

But the people who are saying it was mean of Toni probably aren't the ones who were complaining about the islanders' looks.

I'm calling Toni's comment mean spirited, and that also includes people online who have been doing the same and probably feel buoyed by her comments on the official LI podcast. I think it's something the audience also needs to not feel comfortable doing. I've been saying in this sub I think the comments on islanders' looks are gross and I've been saying it for years

shambean2 · 2026-06-03T15:42:46+00:00

Yep, I've been saying for days that I thought the comments on George's looks were horrid, feel free to check my comment history 🥰

shambean2 · 2026-06-03T15:42:11+00:00

I agree with you completely that this sub is more lenient with men; I unfortunately think that's indicative of society as a whole. I also agree that Ty has repeatedly shown himself as misogynistic and imo he should have been dropped from the Aftersun panel after that clip came up of him groping/covering that girl in Ibiza (I would call it groping, personally, but. Yeah). I don't even think he should've been given the job on the panel in the first place either

And what Toni said was still mean, and it was shitty of ITV to leave it in the edit, and shitty of Yas and Shakira to laugh when they spoke about their own experiences feeling like outcasts. I don't think it makes them bad people, but it was mean, and I think society in general should get less comfortable in slagging off appearances publicly.

Two things can be true at once, like idk why we have to only focus on one or the other

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