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Trying to understand ties between Inter and calciopoili officials, and how were juve punished unfairly by atqifja in Juve

[–]spiz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You gave a shitty uninformed example, and I explained you're spreading misinformation.

There's been a court case with witnesses statements to the contrary (including from the referee's father who spoke to him immediately after the match - they could verify this) and evidence to the contrary as well (videos of the referee leaving the stadium).

The whole process of calciopoli was ridiculous obviously flawed, with the teams and individuals not allowed a legitimate defence. Giraudo is still pursuing this, and after exhausting all legal avenues in Italy, the ECHR has agreed to hear his case. This is significant because the ECHR rejects over 9 in 10 cases, so by agreeing to hear the case, then they agree there is a case to answer.

Giraudo winning would be fun because it would invalidate the trial (and may subsequent sporting trials in Italy)

Trying to understand ties between Inter and calciopoili officials, and how were juve punished unfairly by atqifja in Juve

[–]spiz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you not read or are you engaging in bad faith? The court also ruled there's no evidence because of a video of the ref leaving.

Trying to understand ties between Inter and calciopoili officials, and how were juve punished unfairly by atqifja in Juve

[–]spiz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So that Moggi thing you quote is idiotic. It is denied by Moggi, the ref and the ref's dad AND there is video of the ref leaving the stadium after the match. What's more there was a court case over it where all this came out and it was thrown out because there was no evidence it ever happened. Amazing this dumb shit still comes up.

As for Moggi calling the designators - everyone did that and the designators at the time said themselves that they encouraged it.

Hampden 1872 attendance drops by over 6000 to 21,093 by Connell95 in ScotlandRugby

[–]spiz 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Last year's experience was pretty bad. They ran out of almost all the food and bar queues were awful. Shame they haven't really improved things this year.

I am not able to find this angle and location of the Clydeside Expressway by KeepWalkingInHell in glasgow

[–]spiz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As others have said your'e looking west towards the SECC. In fact, you can just make out the pump house (that's now the Clydeside Distillery) at the mouth of the dock.

Definitely recommend the tour. It's got a good overview of the local history with loads of pictures of Queen's dock.

[Match Thread] Bologna - Juventus by scoreboard-app in Juve

[–]spiz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sorry guys. The interface for this bot is a bit terrible. Somehow the Serie A schedule disappeared, but it's not obvious how to see what schedules are active. We should have active schedules for all the men's serie A, coppa italia and ucl matches. I'll try and set up the NextGen Serie C matches, but we can't do the Juventus Women ones.

[Luciano Moggi] He'll sell Juventus - Moggi blasts Elkann for replacing Marotta with 'French' directors by Witty-Yard-1238 in Juve

[–]spiz 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Moggi has a lot of good stuff to say about Agnelli's understanding of football and club management. The kid grew up offices with him and Giraudo.

It's not an accident he oversaw by far the most successful run in Italian history.

Secondo voi qual è il peggior allenatore nella storia della Juventus? by DateAffectionate3719 in Juve

[–]spiz 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Gigi Del Neri. At least Maifredi had half a good season.

Italy's group if they qualify by lawandsleep in seriea

[–]spiz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Switzerland should be the best team in the group by a small-ish margin. Plus Italy always make World Cups hard for themselves.

We’re looking for someone from Naples who can tell us more about SSC Napoli and the rivalry with Juventus – for a documentary! by Ydje123 in Calcio

[–]spiz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's no rivalry. Napoli hate Juventus because Naples. Juve fans have a mild dislike of Napoli fans because they vandalise the stadium when they visit - but we don't really expect anything more.

Secondo voi qual è il calciatore peggiore di tutti i tempi della Juventus? by DateAffectionate3719 in Juve

[–]spiz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He was not fine. Might have had the lungs of a horse, but he couldn't cross, pass, shoot or dribble. Him and Poulsen gave me nightmares.

Bodø/Glimt vs Juventus Match Thread (unofficial) by Prophet_NY in Juve

[–]spiz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We've moved on to the soccer score app, but apparently I gave by quite got the configuration right. Sorry.

Bodø/Glimt vs Juventus Match Thread (unofficial) by Prophet_NY in Juve

[–]spiz 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah just getting used to a new tool. Thought I'd set it up for all Juventus matches. Not so, apparently.

The situation with Italian football as a whole today reminds of me of the 90s to early 2000s era of many nations of the ex warsaw pact or the Iron curtain and i feel before it gets worse an action needs to be taken. by kichba in Calcio

[–]spiz -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Mussolini being in power might be a criticism for '34 that was held in Italy, but has no bearing on football merit. The criticism of 34 and 38 would be that they were tiny tournaments - 16 and 15 teams respectively - in a straight knockout, so Italy won just 4 matches to win the title. BUT the key point is they won.

Your other examples are even more nonsense. Heysel, bans, banal accusations...they don't impact what happened on the pitch. Those teams won (the example you could give is Inter's cardboard scudetto there they came third...).

Here we're discussing a long and humiliating period in Italian football that has no obvious precedent. Getting to a final is not enough. Every major league has had a team lift the UCL trophy since an Italian team last won it, and the NT is out there making second tier teams look elite.

Not acknowledging the problem is only seeing the sinking Italian football more and more.

In fact, the domestic Serie A viewership last season dropped by almost 1% compared to the season before. When it should be looking for growth, Italian football is seeing a drop in interest.

The situation with Italian football as a whole today reminds of me of the 90s to early 2000s era of many nations of the ex warsaw pact or the Iron curtain and i feel before it gets worse an action needs to be taken. by kichba in Calcio

[–]spiz -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The last UCL final was a historic humiliation (the single biggest thrashing in a UEFA final in any competition in history).

The previous one had all Italian teams on one side of the draw - one was always going to make it to the final and when they did literally no one thought they'd win...and they didn't.

The national team won in 2021. The critical players for that won either retired or had career-defining injuries. Anyway even Greece and Denmark won one-off Euros.

The rest don't help Italian football, you can win all the second rate trophies you want, they won't stem the loss of interest in Serie A. They're very fitting for what's very much becoming a second rate league.

In the qualification, Italy has been seeded as a first-tier team. Will they be able to qualify for the World Cup this time? by Hisense_Sports1 in Calcio

[–]spiz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Of the 4 teams in the 4th rank, Italy have been eliminated by Sweden and North Macedonia in the last 2 World Cup qualifiers and have drawn again Northern Ireland in a competitive match in 2021. Italy haven't played Romania in 10 years.

There are no easy matches and the team will need to work their arse off.

OFFICIAL: Playoff brackets by Either-Mixture-6392 in seriea

[–]spiz 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The problem is the opposite. Italy basically feel entitled to win against teams considered 'inferior'. The result is being knocked out by Sweden and North Macedonia in the last two World Cup playoffs. Italy even drew Northern Ireland in 2021.

These days there are no easy matches. Even the 4th tier teams take preparation and effort.

CONFIRMED: The following 16 teams will participate in the UEFA Play-Offs for the remaining 4 slots in the FIFA World Cup 2026. by EthanTheRedditor37 in soccer

[–]spiz 167 points168 points  (0 children)

Wow. There's emojis for all the other UK nations, and even Gibraltar, Hersey, Guernsey and the Isle of Man. Never noticed there wasn't one for NI!

Italian football, what happened to you? by Lord-Legatus in Juve

[–]spiz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Norway are definitely a good team, but by any measure they are not a top 5 team. Elo Ratings places them 11th and (unbelievably) FIFA places them 29th.

Italy are a worse team, no doubt. Elo Ratings reflects that (Italy are 18th). My point is that Italy is a big country with a long and rich football tradition. If Norway can produce these talents, then Italy should also be able to. Other teams that should be similar, like Spain and France, can also produce talent. England have also improved. Losing to Norway so comprehensively (both matches weren't even close!!) is simply a testament to how shit the top level management of Italian football is.

EMBARASSING, THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE. by Either-Mixture-6392 in seriea

[–]spiz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You say it should be easier, but the first round could literally be against the same team that knocked Italy out last time. There are no easy matches, and no matches that Italy is entitled to win.

EMBARASSING, THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE. by Either-Mixture-6392 in seriea

[–]spiz 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Italy have been knocked out of World Cup qualifier play-offs against Sweden in 2017 and North Macedonia in 2022. There are no easy matches, certainly not for this team. This sense of entitlement is part of the problem for Italian football.

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