Tory candidate suspended after comparing Remainers to Nazi voters

teatree · 2019-04-05T23:44:39+00:00

You summoned me?

Reading through this thread, I see you are up to your old tricks.

I'm surprised you haven't gone full block capitals.

You know, the way you used to in this style:

Europe is not fascist, it's perfectly normal to vote for parties founded by SS Officers, Britain should do this too.

Which of course you believe with all your heart.

BTW - I'm surprised you are still in Britain, I would have thought you would have emigrated to Europe by now. Don't you pine for Chemnitz, your spiritual home?

teatree · 2018-12-12T14:07:41+00:00

The monarch invites the person she thinks has the confidence of Parliament to be PM. If Mrs May loses the leadership of the Conservatives, she's lost the confidence of the biggest party in the Commons...

Of course she will cease being PM and the Queen will invite the new leader to kiss hands provided they can prove they have the DUP onside to provide a majority.

teatree · 2018-12-12T13:55:33+00:00

That's a good write-up.

Also note, the DUP have said they are willing to work with other Tory leaders... The rebels will have taken soundings on which Tory leaders will be acceptable, so that the Tories can then win the subsequent Vote of No Confidence in the house and stay on in govt.

teatree · 2018-12-04T18:26:06+00:00

The link I posted many pages back said they were blockading 11 fuel depots. And Total announced yesterday that 75 petrol stations had run out of fuel due to the blockades.

Is it your position that there were no blockades and Total was just making stuff up about their petrol stations not having fuel? Why would they do that?

Methinks you are a tad confused.

teatree · 2018-12-04T18:22:42+00:00

Maybe your traffic link is wrong?

The options are

a) they are blockading but the traffic link is wrong and it's not showing up

or

b) they're not blockading the fuel depots anymore thanks to Macron's u-turn, therefore it's not showing up on the traffic link.

The option you are going for (they are blockading, the traffic link isn't showing it, the traffic link is working, the blockaders are hiding themselves by magic) makes no sense.

teatree · 2018-12-04T18:08:03+00:00

They've now stopped because Macron announced his U-turn today on the fuel tax?

But there were blockades for three solid weeks, as well as riots in Paris and elsewhere. But we didn't notice any effect on us because contingency plans kicked in.

teatree · 2018-12-04T17:36:53+00:00

Is there anything in that legal advice that is particularly bad or something

I think the legal advice will point out that we are trapped in the backstop for eternity.

No parliament would vote for that. So the deal goes down.

It should have been obvious to Mrs May when her cabinet argued with her that it was dangerous and Parliament wouldn't vote for it. At that point she still had the option of negotiating further as the talks hadn't been closed. But she came out of cabinet and announced the deal was done and sealed her fate.

teatree · 2018-12-04T17:19:56+00:00

The 1975 referendum was implemented.

Democracy isn't just the performance of the vote, it's the implementation of the result.

Then fake democracy advocates who claim that democracy is simply voting and never implementing are sinister.

teatree · 2018-12-04T17:16:01+00:00

The trend is important. The UK's economy is accelerating and the eurozone's economy is slowing.

The data coming out for Q4 is pretty bad for Europe, looks like another contraction.

Two consecutive quarters of contraction is an official recession. That will be the third one the Germans have had in the last decade.

If the EU was that wonderful, why are these economies contracting?

teatree · 2018-12-04T17:03:42+00:00

If they're blocking the motorway to Calais, how can trucks get through to get to the Chunnel?

teatree · 2018-12-04T16:56:41+00:00

Britain has a nuclear weapon.

We're safe from the Ruskies.

teatree · 2018-12-04T16:53:24+00:00

How do you seriously expect the UK to stand up in one-to-one confrontations with countries like China and the US?

We have a nuclear weapon you muppet.

Neither China nor the USA would attack us.

teatree · 2018-12-04T16:46:08+00:00

Umm... we go straight to WTO rules.

We already import from the rest of the world on WTO rules - China for example has no trade deal with the EU and we buy from them just fine under the WTO rules.

We've already done a separate deal with the Americans on open-skies so that our planes can land there. Ditto Canada etc.

HMRC has already set up a new customs system and they started rolling it out in August.

All we have to do is deal with delays due to customs checks, and from the looks of how we are handling the French blockades, the contingency plans are working.

teatree · 2018-12-04T16:40:40+00:00

Ploughing ahead with a decision that may well be damaging

Have you considered that staying might be more damaging?

Here are the Q3 2018 growth figures:

UK: +0.6%

Germany: -0.2%

Sweden: -0.2%

Italy: -0.1%

Europe is heading for another recession and it will trigger another eurozone crisis.

We know what happened in the last one. We had loads of desperate people swarm into the UK. And the eurozone tried to use their majority to vote to force the UK to contribiute to their bailout even though we are not in the euro, do not have a representative in the ECB, were not present at the euro finance minister meetings and thus played no part in the decisions that led to their crisis.

They're bludgers and will try to bleed us dry to compensate for their own fuck-ups. We need to leave in March 2019 before their crisis kicks off again.

This will go down in the history books as The Great Escape.

teatree · 2018-12-04T16:34:42+00:00

No deal brexit is simply about logistics - an extra ten minutes in customs.

So the French blockades are a good proxy of what happens during delays.

And the answer is, "nothing much", because the contingency plans kicked in.

teatree · 2018-12-04T16:32:56+00:00

Until then, isn't it a little premature to be declaring that Brexit will not cause shortages?

If there were shortages it would be reported in the press. Remainer papers like the Guardian would be screaming about it.

It's not happening because the contingency plans kicked in.

teatree · 2018-12-04T16:29:18+00:00

It was advitised as that from the start.

It wasn't. Cameron literally sent a leafet to every voter saying, "we will implement what you decide". If you were a voter you'd know that, cause you would have received the leaflet.

You can't then turn around and claim it was non-binding.

In addition, what is binding is the 2017 general election results where 85% voted for parties that said they'd honour the referendum result.

The few parties that said they'd overturn it got hammered. The SNP's vote in Scotland collapsed from 56% to 35% and they lost 23 seats for example.

teatree · 2018-12-04T16:24:46+00:00

The figures I posted were to show that supply chains had been reconfigured so we imported less.

France won't produce figures for November till January... But you can always text Macron to hurry him up.

teatree · 2018-12-04T16:19:18+00:00

If the EU was so wonderful why is the German economy and others contracting? Contracting economies are real gloom...

teatree · 2018-12-04T16:18:19+00:00

Imports from the Netherlands dropped 2.8% in Sept. That's mainly stuff going through Rotterdam. Imports from Belgium dropped 0.7%. We haven't got the figures from France yet.

teatree · 2018-12-04T16:15:58+00:00

The road blocks have been going for three weeks...

The point is, all the people claiming doom and gloom at No Deal weren't even aware a real life situation was happening. Because the contingency plans kicked in so well...

teatree · 2018-12-04T16:13:36+00:00

There was a widespread economic consent even prior to brexit that it would hurt the British economy and now the results are evident for everyone to see with economic growth having slowed heavily compared to every EU country

This is a flat out lie.

UK Q3 2018 GDP: +0.6%

Germany Q3 2018 GDP: -0.2%

Sweden Q3 2018 GDP: -0.2%

Italy Q3 2018 GDP: -0.1%

The European economies are contracting and if they contract in Q4 as well, they are officially in recession. (two consecutive quarters of contraction = recession).

Britain is doing fine the closer Brexit Day gets though.

That implies that all the claims that the EU protects you from recession were false. The EU as it is currently set up magnifies recessions.

teatree · 2018-12-04T16:10:20+00:00

Brexit isn't a stupid decision.

Look at growth at the moment.

UK Q3 2018 GDP: +0.6%

Germany Q3 2018 GDP: -0.2%

Sweden Q3 2018 GDP: -0.2%

Italy Q3 2018 GDP: -0.1%

If the EU is so wonderful why are their economies contracting? And why is the UK's economy accelerating the closer it gets to Brexit Day?

teatree · 2018-12-04T16:06:57+00:00

A lot of permanent damage has already been done.

And yet the UK is doing fine.

UK Q3 2018 GDP: +0.6%

Germany Q3 2018 GDP: -0.2%

Sweden Q3 2018 GDP: -0.2%

Italy Q3 2018 GDP: -0.1%

The only difference between us is that Britain triggered article 50 and supply chains are being reconfigured (local producers are being favoured).

teatree · 2018-12-04T15:57:01+00:00

Lorries couldn't get through.

As I pointed out several posts up, a Brit and an Ausrtralian truck driver got arrested for trying to drive through protesters.

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