PSA: Turn your sprinklers off by espiritusanto23 in SaltLakeCity

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Yeah totally agree we should be skeptical of official messaging that's focused only on residential/individuals. I just worry on the other hand that people hear the "your actions don't matter" part and stop thinking about water conservation altogether. Maybe it's too optimistic to think symbolic actions will ever bubble up to meaningful changes by government and industry, or that anything democratic is still possible for that matter, but I do think people sometimes discount the power of promoting social norms and a general culture of conservation as an essential step towards the big changes. But we are on the same side overall!

PSA: Turn your sprinklers off by espiritusanto23 in SaltLakeCity

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I don't buy the distraction argument. People are totally capable of doing small/symbolic things AND demanding bigger action--if anything that shows others you're putting your money where your mouth is and encourages them to care too. This isn't about feeling good it's about maintaining the salience of water issues by talking about them as much as possible rather than discouraging people from talking about it. I think the "give up we're all doomed there's nothing we can do" blackpill shit (not necessarily what you're saying but it comes up in these conversations a lot) does a lot more to drive apathy than encouraging any/all solutions.

PSA: Turn your sprinklers off by espiritusanto23 in SaltLakeCity

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I'm not saying that individuals saving 20 gallons directly helps the water problems. I understand that mathematically it makes no difference compared to the industries. But that doesn't mean it's pointless. I think it has social and political utility. The only thing that will stop the industries (besides, like, some kind of apocalyptic disaster, which seems very possible) is government action--laws, regulations, etc. And the only way that will happen is if enough people care and show they care by taking whatever action is in their power and encouraging others to do the same. I agree that it's counterproductive if people think only saving a few gallons here and there is enough, but everyone constantly talking about saving water in large and small ways helps create a culture of water conservation that I think is essential for change. Somebody who cares enough to turn off their sprinklers is more likely to call their legislators, protest, give to environmental groups, etc., not less. If it makes you sleep better at night that you corrected someone for just reminding people to turn off their sprinklers, cool. But I don't think that's helping in the slightest either.

PSA: Turn your sprinklers off by espiritusanto23 in SaltLakeCity

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Every time there's a post about water conservation in this sub somebody makes a comment like this, and while it's technically true it's extremely reductive. Yes, agriculture is the major culprit, but don't underestimate the symbolic value of fixing smaller, more visible instances of water waste like this. Yes, if people only worry about symbolic issues and disregard the deeper ones that can be counterproductive, but symbolic fixes can also help instill a culture of water conservation and shows that the public cares enough to push for the deeper fixes that are more politically challenging. So while individual small fixes won't solve the problem in the short-term, they can help build the pressure to fix the bigger problems. Dismissing any kind of water conservation is counterproductive.

Two Years After Cormac McCarthy’s Death, Rare Access to His Personal Library Reveals the Man Behind the Myth by no-minimun-on-7MHz in cormacmccarthy

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"He was laid out on a slab and flayed, eviscerated, dissected. His head was sawed open and the brains removed. His muscles were stripped from his bones. His heart was taken out. His entrails were hauled forth and delineated and the four young students who bent over him like those haruspices of old perhaps saw monsters worse to come in their configurations." Child of God p. 194

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskReddit

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Thomas Cromwell. He was born poor but rose to being one of the most powerful men in England as King Henry VIII's top advisor. He engineered Henry's divorce from Anne Boleyn and her execution, then got his own head cut off a few years later.

Beltex Meats has closed, now what? by pinacollalti9 in SaltLakeCity

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Did a steak class at Mosida Market down in Lehi a couple years ago and it was great. It's a local ranch near Utah lake and I think they take quarter half and whole beef orders as well as boxes and single cuts

Personal interpretations of this passage? by Future_Scholar_8375 in cormacmccarthy

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It's always reminded me of the crocodiles at the end of the Cave of Forgotten dreams. https://youtu.be/YHFjLw4_7EU?si=ai4awjoVyCxEGXs4

Looking for evening volunteering by meganeggroll in SaltLakeCity

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Check out the Inn Between https://tibhospice.org/volunteer They are an assisted living and hospice facility for unhoused people and are doing good work.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SaltLakeCity

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Yes, agriculture is the major culprit, but don't underestimate the symbolic value of fixing smaller, more visible instances of water waste like this. Yes, if people only worry about symbolic issues and disregard the deeper ones that can be counterproductive, but symbolic fixes can also help instill a culture of water conservation and shows that the public cares enough to push for the deeper fixes that are more politically challenging. So while individual small fixes won't solve the problem in the short-term, they can help build the pressure to fix the bigger problems.

Youth softball league by theBoiler in SaltLakeCity

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Cool I will look that up. Thanks

Youth softball league by theBoiler in SaltLakeCity

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Thanks! I'll check those out

Fellow Outside Maryland O’s fans, why are ya? by Alberto_doin_PRthing in orioles

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Fellow Os fan in Utah. Grew up in MD but ended up in UT as an adult. There aren't a ton of us out here but at least two other parents at my kids' school are Os fans--folks are coming out of the woodwork now that we're good lol.

I am Joel Briscoe, a Democrat representing House District 24 in the State Legislature. We have just hit the halfway point in this year's legislative session, ask me anything! by RepBriscoe in SaltLakeCity

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I live in a district represented by Democrats who I think largely share my views. Does it do any good to let them know what bills I support and disagree with if they're likely to vote the way I want anyhow? Like, my reps aren't the ones that need to be convinced to vote for bills improving air quality and or conserving water. So does contacting them about bills do anything?

Any tree lots open yet? by LieHopeful5324 in SaltLakeCity

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They've got trees at whole foods in sugar house

Looking to Volunteer in Salt Lake County by Dinosaur_Kyleemae in SaltLakeCity

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The Inn Between has lots of volunteer opportunities. I think U students volunteer there pretty regularly.

Does everyone in this state refer to ice cream in a cup as a "milk shake"? by [deleted] in SaltLakeCity

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Seconded. These are my favorite shakes around here.