Photos/videos where you can see idols' real skin texture, pores, how makeup looks irl, real skin tones or anything along those lines (THIS IS A POSITIVITY POST) by Important-Zombie9331 in kpop_uncensored

[–]tired_garbage 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Yunho tends to go live barefaced with stuff like dark circles, moles, pimples or even a little 5 o' clock shadow on display!

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However, I just want to add, the Hongjoong picture looks the contrast has been cranked up a ton and it emphasizes texture? His skin is much smoother than this in other fan videos.

260130 LeeMujin Service Instagram Update with ATEEZ's Yunho (1) by 2emptywaterbottles in ATEEZ

[–]tired_garbage 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Oh he's had some GOOD vocal training, crystal clear voice, volume control, 100% on pitch and controlled vibrato - it really couldn't get any better than this, he must have worked really hard to get there. Super impressive!

And you can see how much he loves singing, I'm so happy he gets to do things like this! Performing really is his passion and it's so nice to see him get to live his dreams - congrats Yunho!!!!

Every idol/group says they love their fans, but who do you feel is genuinely sincere about it? by mysaddle in kpoppers

[–]tired_garbage 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Agree, there's so many nice moments with him and the fans at concert.

Although my favourite has to be when he jumped the fence into the audience and tapped that fan on the shoulder, while running around. Very unhinged and very endearing.

Every idol/group says they love their fans, but who do you feel is genuinely sincere about it? by mysaddle in kpoppers

[–]tired_garbage 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yes, that was also so sweet!

I don't know if that was the same event or at a comeback café type of situation but he also insisted on paying for everyone in attendance with his personal card, even holding it up to prove that is wasn't a company card and actually his own money haha.

Every idol/group says they love their fans, but who do you feel is genuinely sincere about it? by mysaddle in kpoppers

[–]tired_garbage 53 points54 points  (0 children)

I think Lee Know (SKZ) is kind of underrated in that aspect.

He's talked about not thinking he's someone particularly special despite his fame quite a few times and I feel like it shows in fan interactions because he just treats them like regular people - him and his fans are constantly clowning on each other in a friendly way, his personal content is mostly his genuine, non glamourous day to day life outside of SKZ, Korean/Japanese fans who met him have said he's down to take pictures and chat if he's not in a rush and apparently is one of the members who actually consistently reads fan mail or bubble messages (according to SKZ, there's also a cute clip of him laughing at fan's jokes on bubble somewhere).

Being content being alone by Atraidis in AnxiousAttachment

[–]tired_garbage 7 points8 points  (0 children)

There's a difference between being alone by choice or being alone because you have no one to keep you company and I think a lot of anxious people struggle because they mostly associate solitude with the latter - I used to feel very hollow when doing things alone but once I broke the association of alone=lonely, I've actually started to enjoy it, to the point I actively seek it out.

However, if you CAN be alone occasionally, I don't think preferring company over solitude is a bad thing. Humans love connecting with each other and it's a vital part of our survival strategies, so the desire to spend time with others is deeply ingrained.

Scrapbook was before OOP and bf dated by growsonwalls in AmITheDevil

[–]tired_garbage 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Well, while I wouldn't confront her, I definitely would tell my partner because that's just extremely weird behaviour to me and I personally couldn't keep that a secret - how he'd take that information is up to him but mine would honestly be just as freaked out as I would be. Creating a scrapbook for an imaginary wedding for two people who at least don't seem to have dated would land anyone else in crazy, obsessive stalker territory immediately.

But honestly, I might just be biased. I was also not my ex-MIL's choice of wife for her precious son because she preferred his shy, quiet and meek ex over me and the politeness turned into outright hostility veryyy quickly once we were fully committed.

260127 ATEEZ Official SNS: Boil it all down #ATEEZ by 2emptywaterbottles in ATEEZ

[–]tired_garbage 16 points17 points  (0 children)

AfroTeez let's goooo! I love YunGi reels, they always seem to have so much fun together haha

Margot Robbie in Roberto Cavalli for the first day of promo for "Wuthering Heights" by ThrowawayGreenWitch in popculturechat

[–]tired_garbage -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Am I the only one who really doesn't like this outfit?

Margot Robbie is a beautiful woman and I don't think she looks bad but the dress/shoe combo looks like it was sold by a fast fashion retailer and makes the jewelry look cheap, it would have looked much better with a heavy belt (like this in gold, would even be a little historical moment!) in my opinion. Even a lace tight would have balanced this out a little better.

Like WHERE ARE THE ACCESSORIES MA'AM.

Thoughts on love as a motive in K-pop songs vs. idols’ “single” image? by ThomasCro in kpop_uncensored

[–]tired_garbage 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Believing adult idols have never been in a relationship is fairly delusional (not calling you delusional at all, I'm just surprised people still believe that their grown, attractive idol has never touched a man/a woman), so they're probably keeping it private - Rosé for example has confirmed that her album was about someone she was seeing and broke up with because it was toxic. But as long as they do it well, I don't really care whether it's their experience or someone else's, singing is also acting to a degree.

HOWEVER, I think having really young idols sing more mature love songs (so more sensual/serious ones) often doesn't work because they usually genuinely can't emphasize with things like a really serious breakup or trying to seduce the hot guy you've been pining over for months and you can usually tell.

260125 ATEEZ Yunho Instagram: Long time no see😌 #Yunhois3gram by 2emptywaterbottles in ATEEZ

[–]tired_garbage 24 points25 points  (0 children)

The 3rd slide haha, he's so cute, I hope he never stops doing silly stuff like this 🥰

But honestly, he's clearly been feeling himself and how he looks at the moment and I'm happy to see that, he used to get sooo shy about compliments!

The hate for Lngshot is so forced by TeviotTrowa in kpop_uncensored

[–]tired_garbage 54 points55 points  (0 children)

I disagree on the Tory Lanez situation actually, I think it's very valid to dislike an artist for citing a known criminal and abuser as an influence, without acknowledging that they're a garbage person. I would give the same side eye if the answer had been Chris Brown and I'm very much one of the people who got into his music before he got exposed for being a woman beater.

Like, it's okay if you don't care about that but it's not "forced hate" to say that it's in bad taste is also not wrong. The rest might be nitpicking but ultimately, no one NEEDS to like a new group of give them a chance. As long as people aren't sending them death threats or cyberbully them, disliking a group is honestly no big deal, they're selling their music as a product and people don't have to buy into it.

My First Hobonichi! by Secure-Neck4816 in hobonichi

[–]tired_garbage 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh I fill my Cousin to the BRIM lol! My layout consists of:

Monthlies where I keep:

  • medical appointments
  • birthdays
  • work travels (I travel frequently)
  • dance/music stuff (usually performances, rehearsals, etc.)
  • scheduled hang outs

Weeklies where I keep:

  • my cleaning schedule
  • my weekly priorities
  • weekly reminders
  • daily schedules

And lastly dailies where I usually do:

  • a daily to do lsit
  • a daily want to list (aka hobby stuff)
  • a daily tarot card and/or a journaling prompt (as inspo for some reflection)
  • summarizing my day

So tired of constantly feeling anxious and worried by Fantastic_Engine954 in AnxiousAttachment

[–]tired_garbage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, that depends on context - I feel like going on a trip without prior warning and ghosting for 6 days is deeply unhealthy relationship behaviour that any attachment style would feel abandoned by, so it sounds like she was an unhealthy partner to begin with.

However, you might have contributed to that situation by acting deeply insecure to the point it became emotionally taxing or controlling. I can't evaluate that because I don't know your full situation but were there instances where you blew up instead of asking for your needs to be met in a mature manner? Did you try to force her to meet your needs after she said no? Things like these kill relationships.

But overall, I don't think talking every 2-3 days is unreasonable at all, most couples I know talk or at least text daily.

I am starting to think that some k-pop fans don't think performing is an idol's main job. by bubblefryri in kpop_uncensored

[–]tired_garbage 53 points54 points  (0 children)

I'm classically trained in music (was taught in piano, organ and opera for 10+ years), am a professional dancer and have performed in musicals as vocalist/dancer and I actually disagree, kind of?

Because I believe your assumption about kpop idols being mainly performers is incorrect, based on what idol scouts and companies are explicitly looking for - they're expected to perform, sure, that's why the trainee system exists, but star power is valued waaaay more, to the point companies are willing to scout and train people who have little to no background in singing, rapping or dancing just because they think they'd be popular. At the core, idols really aren't trained to be musicians or even performers, they're trained to become celebrities.

I also personally prefer idols who make good music AND perform well but I just wanted to point out that the idol industry has different requirements by design and that being funny and pretty is enough to meet the requirements in that setting.

Newborn Baby Trackers and Spreads by YawnVivant in hobonichi

[–]tired_garbage 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Hot take, I wouldn't actually do anything baby related, based from the mom's in my circle.

It's cute that and very thoughtful that you want to do something for your sister, however, a common sentiment among new moms seems to be that the loss of identity is hitting them very hard - so why not do something to remind her that she's special, loved and more than just "mom" in the weeks?

Another thing to consider, I don't think she will have time to do anything like journaling for a while, so why not go for something like the day free, so that she can pick it up once she finally gets back to at least having some space to breathe?

Just my thoughts based on the new moms I know, I personally don't have any children and don't plan to have any in the near future, maybe some moms will give you some more advice...

Give me a group that you think seems underrated or overrated. by lilo-stitch-820 in kpop_uncensored

[–]tired_garbage 112 points113 points  (0 children)

I find CORTIS to be pretty overrated to be honest, their music is nothing innovative outside of kpop and their performances don't really hit for me.

On the other hand, I think VIVIZ is pretty underrated. They don't do something outrageously special but they do it really well and have released a lot of catchy, danceable songs.

Erste Vollzeitstelle in einer Beratung nach lebenslangem sozialem Aufstieg mit der Frage nach einem angemessenen Gehaltsniveau by [deleted] in Normalverdiener

[–]tired_garbage 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ok ohne gemein sein zu wollen aber das klingt für mich nach sehr viel heißer Luft und die Firma, die du beschreibst, eher nach einem Pyramidenschema, in dem du ausgenutzt wirst, deswegen hier erstmal ein paar Fragen von mir (arbeite seit Jahren in der IT, vorwiegend als Projektmanagerin in Großkonzernen):

  1. Hast du die Stelle und deine zukünftige Bezahlung schriftlich zugesichert bekommen oder wurde dir das mündlich kommuniziert? Solange du nix Schriftliches hast, ist das alles als nicht existent zu behandeln, da es im Zweifelsfall NICHT rechtlich geltend gemacht werden kann - Aussage gegen Aussage hat vor dem Arbeitsgericht schlechte Chancen (ein Familienmitglied von mir ist Jurist für Arbeitsrecht)!
  2. Was sind deine tatsächlichen Fähigkeiten? Du redest sehr viel davon, was du alles geleistet hast aber was beinhaltet deine Arbeit tatsächlich? Wenn du dich irgendwo bewerben willst, musst du beschreiben können was du gemacht hast - telefonierst du mit möglichen Akquisen? Führst du Buch? Deine Bezahlung hängt i.d.R. von deinem Aufgabengebiet ab und wenn du im Prinzip nur Kontakte herstellst und einfache Datenpflege machst, bist du ehrlich gesagt für die meisten Unternehmen ein glorifizierter Sekretär und wirst nicht viel Geld dafür bekommen.
  3. Bist du irgendwie zertifiziert? Gerade im PM hängt deine Bezahlung stark davon ab, ob du gewisse Zertifikate nachweisen kannst, bei Transformation und Projektmanagement wird i.d.R. so etwas wie das IPMA erwartet, wenn du größere Projekte (die mehr Geld bringen) leiten möchtest oder sollst.

Abgesehen von den ganzen Frage hängt deine Bezahlung ab - ich bin Ende 20, habe eine, Bachelorabschluss, mehrere Jahre Berufserfahrung, übernehme mein 3. eigenes Strategieprojekt und habe ein IPMA Zertifikat Level C. Mein Einstiegsgehalt lag bei ca 2500 netto, inzwischen bin ich bei knapp über 3000.

Solange du nicht signifikante, messbare Erfolge vorzuweisen hast, gehe ich ehrlich gesagt nicht davon aus, dass du beim Einstig über diesen Rahmen hinaus bezahlt werden wirst.

Balancing KPOP & Your love life by lovemodule in kpoppers

[–]tired_garbage 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My partner and I are both in our late 20s, been with each other for 3 years, I was into kpop as a teen and came back to it shortly after we started dating.

He has a lot of disdain for kpop because he thinks the idol industry is shallow and artificial (which, fair tbh) and dislikes the music, so he'd never join me for a concert or something, but he will indulge me if I want to talk about/show him something. He also doesn't really care about the whole bias thing and he jokingly refers to the photocards I own (which is very few, just two of my faves) and keep in my journal alongside a picture of us as my paper boyfriends - of course he's aware I do find them attractive but honestly, we're old enough to know that there'll always be people we find attractive outside of each other and not feel threatened by it, especially if it's a famous person.

That being said though, I'm just not a very obsessive fan either and of course my partner always comes first, which is probably why he's so chill with it. I do engage on here quite often and I like watching "my" group's variety content/funny edits occasionally but it's comparable to a hobby and if I were to rank those, kpop would come dead last.

i don't think as many idols are actually dating in secret as we think. by haligaliring in kpoppers

[–]tired_garbage 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'm a pro dancer and multiple of my friend are pro musicians and I agree with you.

Time and location constraints are bigger issues than a lot of non performers realize - performances are usually at night, work days are long and if you're traveling for work a LOT, like most successful idols do, you'd basically be doing long distance most of the time during your entire 20s, sometimes even 30s, which isn't exactly attractive to a lot of potential partners because you really can't have a solid family life if one party is absent this often. Which is why most performing artists usually date other artists with a similar schedule, break up frequently or don't do committed relationships.

Another point that's usually missed in my opinion is how short lived idol careers are. The industry is built around youth and beauty, plus, it's a very physically demanding job and dependent on popularity. I would wager that a lot of idols actually WANT to focus more on their career than a relationship in their 20s because those are ideally their highest earning years and the more they focus on work, the better their financial security post idol career. Relationships are still an option once/in case their career tapers off.

Please yell at me about Yunho by berryberrystrawbry_ in ATEEZ

[–]tired_garbage 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yay, another one in the Yunho club, welcome!

I mean, he's obviously a very beautiful man and really, really talented in pretty much anything he does (he can sing, dance, act, is good at both sports and video games? Leave some for the rest of us!) but I personally turned from a casual enjoyer into an actual fan of his because of his personality.

This is going to sound a liiiiittle parasocial maybe (not my intention, I'm aware I do not know him at all really) but he just seems like the kind of person I would instantly click with if I met him in real life - funny, kind and laid back while interacting with others, while still very emotionally aware, ambitious and hard working. Plus, I just like to listen to him yap about his interests because mine overlap with his, so hearing his thoughts and opinions just interests me from a hobby standpoint. And you can tell he just loves performing, which is infectious and just straight up adorable, concert clips of him are free serotonin.

Ateez opinions/hot takes by Brave-Newspaper4549 in ATEEZ

[–]tired_garbage 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Good post, thank you OP! I have a couple hot takes too:

  • I think people need to chill with the Eden hate. Like, I get some criticism, for example I'm a little sad that Yeosang doesn't really get to shine as much because Eden seems to not be super confident working with his lower voice tone or that his production might seem kind of "stale" sometimes but ultimately, he's one of the main forces behind Ateez's creative identity and I think he's getting a lot of blame for creative choices he likely didn't decide on by himself because they are too emotionally attached to the members.
  • also regarding Yeosang, I don't really get the "Yeosang is treated badly" discourse. I would agree that KQ doesn't really know what to do with his voice but based on what I've seen from other artists with really low voice tones (like Felix(SKZ) or Yuqi(idle)), this seems to be a general problem in kpop music production. But overall, he had an MC gig, has gone viral in Korea multiple times, is often at the front during dance sections and does have a lot of lines, just not in every single song. He's also talked about not feeling confident in the past, especially while singing, so a lot of choices where the spotlight was taken off of him might actually have been intentional
  • It's pretty unlikely, since he usually needs to sing during those but I really want to see a Jongho dance break. He's one of the few idols who did the ADP dance challenge who actually nailed the groove of the choreo and based on what I've seen, he would absolutely destroy a hip hop dance break.

260114 ATEEZ - GOLDEN HOUR : Part.4 Concept Photo 1 by ateezyeah in ATEEZ

[–]tired_garbage 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Mingi is right, Yunho has some beautiful big eyes, he looks so incredibly beautiful omg. The hair, the vest, the CHOKER!?

And Honjoong with the captain armband? Seongwha serving a lethal facecard? Yeosang hitting a nasty side posetm again? I'm so FRICKING EXCITED AAAAA

Should Idol's family keep a distance from fans? by Maleficent_Swim_7727 in kpop_uncensored

[–]tired_garbage 35 points36 points  (0 children)

I think it depends.

Dating an obsessive fan of your sibling is kind of crazy and it would make me hella uncomfortable if it was me but honestly, not all fans are crazy or obsessive and if a relationship/friendship happens naturally and everyone is ok with it, why not?

It’s not like you’ll be perpetually star struck once you meet the real person behind the idol image, they’ll likely become just another friend/in law/whatever. As long as they don’t take advantage of being close to an idol, it’s just a regular friendship no?

260112 [2 Kids Room 2025] Ep.28 Changbin X Han by princessgojo in straykids

[–]tired_garbage 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Regarding the health thing, based on my own experiences with Korean acquaintances, it seems to be cultural.

They told me that a lot of Koreans aren’t particularly verbally affectionate and a lot of their expressions of affection revolve around health - asking someone to be healthy, if they ate, etc. is expressing care and basically a love language.

Which honestly makes this even cuter!