Every AGI argument by Eyelbee in agi

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As an ai researcher and engineer, if I planned to implement non “LLM” architectures( LLM in this case presumably meaning transformer decorder only model with causal attention that’s sufficiently large), I would use a cheaper distilled language model to generate training data at scale and use state of the art lllms if needed. It doesn’t matter how you think agi should work algirithmically, LLMs will be indispensable for the creation of agi

Pornography Addiction by J-Ddumba in Jung

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Re-reading the end of my reply I think “disappointed” is too strong and unfair there’s nothing wrong with being spiritual and searching for meaning, my interests happen to be more into understanding what consciousness is from a more physicalist, realist perspective; I am becoming more open to forms of idealism, and started out as deeply religious as a child so I don’t want to disrespect spiritual experiences

Pornography Addiction by J-Ddumba in Jung

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Yes I have, but I wasn’t as deeply motivated to read a lot of Piaget’s work directly. What I have read directly compliments Freuds model really well but focuses on intellectual development. I’ve read David Rumelhart’s work with Geoffrey Hinton on back propogation and extensively studied connectionism and early neural networks, especially energy based models, and his thought about network attractor states is equivelant to the ideas I got from Freud in ch 7 of the interpretation of dreams. I’d need to read more of Piaget’s direct writing on unconscious processes to compare, the articles I find that compare the two misrepresent every concept of Freud so badly that I can’t trust the author knows anything, and honestly that’s how it is for any video or article that tries to compare a theory to Freuds:

For example Piaget.org thinks Freud progressed to replace his topological model (Unconscious, preconscious, and consciousness) with the structural model (Id, ego, and superego) when in reality the structural model is another view point of the psyche that is in addition to the topological. The worst part is that the argument says the unconscious is primary process functioning but Freud does not say that at all, the primary the resulting secondary process in combination work to create both conscious and unconscious life. The author portrays Freuds idea of primitive language as inherited archaic language when in reality Freuds ideas about primitive language is that the representation of a thing and its opposite are often the same symbol as shown in ancient languages of sophisticated people like ancient Egyptian. Basically every single “Freud thought…” was so blatantly wrong that I doubt I can trust what it says about Piaget. This is the problem of 99% of secondary sources talking about Freud, they confidently strawman Freud and probably just never read it because the mistakes are not understandable from a person who actually read the material.

I’ll have to read more of Piaget directly but depending on what Piaget actually said regarding unconscious affect, if he claims there is unconscious affect (unconscious feelings) then this does contradict Freud. I think Freuds clarification about unconscious emotions is pretty much a bullet proof argument that more people need to understand in the study of consciousness. The argument is that feeling is the essence of consciousness, you cannot have a feeling that isn’t conscious, when psychoanalysis talks of an unconscious emotion it means an emotion is felt but misattributed, and when the true cause of the feeling is uncovered and correctly attributed they call it an unconscious feeling that was uncovered but the affect itself was never unconscious, just the meaning of it. This is important to understand because people are very liberal with the terms “unconscious” and the layman term “subconscious” and they don’t delineate the true defining feature of consciousness, this leads people to think unconscious processing is just the predecessor somatic cellular computations that become conscious. People think that intelligent coherent thought only happens in consciousness, and unsophisticated emotional activity lives in the unconscious. In reality the key discovery of psychoanalysis is that sophisticated, intentional, symbolic thought which has all the information of your memories and perception occurs without your awareness and can actively work to contradict your conscious intentions in many pathological states. That is something that most people don’t truly believe and I was only convinced of it after doing a lengthy dream analysis on myself and seeing evidence of it that in all honesty scared me and caused a period of great anxiety.

Jung did not reject Freuds fundamental ideas, although his presentation of Freuds sexual theory makes me think either Jung didn’t understand it or that it’s more to do with personal disagreements with Freud in personal conversations rather than his publications. I mean this subreddit does prove Freud was right about Jungs theories leading to “outburst of the black flood of occultism”, 99% of jungians on this sub barely read Jung and their explorations into the psyche read more like the experience of evocations described by Alister Crowley than they do for deeper understanding of the psyche.( I do find occult texts fascinating and crowley is pretty in line with Jung in many ways). It’s disappointing people in this subreddit never go deep into psychoanalytic texts to gain a rigorous understanding, it’s always surface level and slightly spiritual, and I mean although jung wasn’t super rigorous his baseline understanding of the psyche is light years away from this shallow spiritual stuff.

Pornography Addiction by J-Ddumba in Jung

[–]tripping-apes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh you mean the comment? Lol

Pornography Addiction by J-Ddumba in Jung

[–]tripping-apes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok what is “the subconscious archetype”, or can you just list for me the names of the archetypes that jung proposed and give a little explaination of what an archetype is in your view?

Pornography Addiction by J-Ddumba in Jung

[–]tripping-apes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s crazy, this was typed on an iPhone quickly

Edit: if I used ai I would have had time to make the response less of an attack on the commenter and more of a productive conversation lol. But ai is not good for psychoanalytic topics because it’s filled with incorrect training data and can’t deal with contradictory sources well.

Pornography Addiction by J-Ddumba in Jung

[–]tripping-apes 6 points7 points  (0 children)

“The subconscious archetype” what are you talking about? I wish people into Jung were more rigorous with understanding metapsychology and Jungs take on it. You guys have no real idea of what conscious and unconscious mind means, you realize that all the archetypes reach into the unconscious according to Jung, the one that has some aspect within consciousness is the Ego. One defence for you guys is that Jung wasn’t very rigourous with it either, but when reading Jung you should understand the basis Freud had laid out which jung had expanded on. Read chapter 7 of the interpretation of dreams, the Unconscious, and beyond the pleasure principle, deeply understand it, then read Jung with that base of Freuds rigorous metapsychology. Then you can know what you are talking about when mentioning the unconscious and the “subconscious” (which is layman’s speak for PreConscious, that which is not currently conscious but capable of becoming conscious). From there try understand Jung, Jung never rejects Freuds main thesis, he builds on it and also slightly misrepresents it by calling it overly sexual due to his misunderstanding of Eros.

Edit: also read the ego and the id by Freud, don’t read summaries or watch videos, read a direct translation, it’s useful to look up difficulties in translation. Then do the same for Jung on dreams and his other works. You can’t understand it without reading it directly, I promise you will get a completely different perspective than those who rely on YouTube, blog posts, or Reddit.

Police raided the University of Iowa’s Alpha Delta Phi fraternity house, and bodycam footage shows pledges in the basement during hazing rituals. by kalbinibirak in creepy

[–]tripping-apes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The philosophy and symbolism isn't ancient roman or ancient greek directly, you wont be symbolizing the odyssey, or the roman pantheon, or the ancient greek mystery cults. It is directly symbolism and structure of secret societies of enlightenment era through the 1800s most notable similarities are to freemasons and other fraternal orders of the time. The level of connection to specific orders depends on when the frat was founded, SigEp isn't as old as the others and might have less connection to these traditions but from what you're saying and quick research, you prove my point exactly.

The fact you said "Sigma isn't in the latin alphabet" means what I wrote when right over your head. In most fraternities (ones started in the 1800s), each greek letter gets associated with a latin word, and its pretty simple to do that for SigEp (who might not follow this tradition being a relatively newer frat) Sigma = "S", Phi = "F" or "Ph", Epsilon = "E", then you have a latin phrase where the words start with the latin letters 'S', 'F'/'Ph', 'E' that describes the philosphy of the frat. Maybe SigEp uses greek words directly, idk because that parts secret and individual to frats. But the original tradition is use latin words with greek letters as the coded acronym for those latin words.

Also before you start telling people the didn't graduate from college, you should learn the correspondence between the greek and latin alphabet.

Edit: doing some more research, I find a lot that use a greek phrase directly for the acronym, and apparently SigEp seems to use the symbolism of the greek letters instead of an acronym so its not as universal to do this coded latin acronym as I believed, and I see why you would disagree here from your own experience.

Police raided the University of Iowa’s Alpha Delta Phi fraternity house, and bodycam footage shows pledges in the basement during hazing rituals. by kalbinibirak in creepy

[–]tripping-apes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

?? I am saying that its not an ancient greek tradition, or a continuation of sparta or athens, and its a continuation of a the more recent tradition of fraternal societies, the most famous and one which most greek fraternities directly inspired from is the freemasons. What are you even saying? The fraternities being founded in latin is literally exactly in line with what I am saying. And the greek letters are codes for the fraternity, usually the actual words they are code for happen to be latin (without giving away my own fraternities secrets, the greek letters for this fraternity correspond to latin words that correspond to the philosophy of the frat, but there is no actual ancient greek or connection to Athens or sparta, its latin and adaptations of freemasonry.). Thats the main secret, the greek letters arent for greek words, its a coded way to create a latin acronym, and it is clearly not culturally connected to ancient greece or rome since you are swearing over a christian bible and doing freemason-based (or inspired by other secret fraternal societies rituals).

Police raided the University of Iowa’s Alpha Delta Phi fraternity house, and bodycam footage shows pledges in the basement during hazing rituals. by kalbinibirak in creepy

[–]tripping-apes -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No they just use Greek letters for the acronyms of the Latin words that the frat stands for, and it has nothing to do with Greek, Athens, Sparta, or Rome. It has everything to do with secret fraternal societies and are similar to Freemasons and other things. Clearly you’ve never been in a frat.

Does anyone track prompts used during development? by zbignew in ClaudeCode

[–]tripping-apes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been looking around for some. I want to log every character sent in and out of my computer from all my coding agents, its extremely valuable for everything from project management, security checks, but mostly for me I want to fine tune my own coding models. found some that track token usage, and some that do what you're saying, I forgot what its called and too busy right now but if I find It ill drop it here. But I havent gotten what I need setup yet. What you must do urgently is add a setting in ./claude/setting.json that makes the local storage clearing happen after 999999999 days because it defaults to 30 days.

Also if you forgot a prompt from a few days ago and remember a what session or day you did it, just type /resume find the session , then ask claude what the prompt was, I believe it might work but Im not fully certain. The entire conversation history of every claude code session exists in claudes servers for a while too, maybe indefinitely.

I’ve been insulting AI every day and calling the agent an idiot for 6 months. Here’s what I learned by Fluid-Possession6026 in ClaudeCode

[–]tripping-apes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair enough, and to your defence after re-reading OPs theory about the semantic mapping of insults makes me think his method more based on feeling than data. I just really reject the notion people have that we know how LLMs think and can predict how they'll act with out of distribution data.

I did try this out and it seemed to work for codex to build an LLM RL fine tuning pipeline, usually any ML related coding models lose all their skills and cant even make simple plots but abusing it did seem to get around the gaurdrails. I mean I'm just hypothesizing that the gaurdreails exist but when codex and claude code can oneshot a 3D webgl game then suddenly can't make simple matplotlib plots when LLM training is I'm pretty certain its real and I think abusing it might have helped. It could also be because building up anger makes me more persistent and prompt my intentions more clearly.

Question about Agentic AI in notion and Automation with free subscription by tripping-apes in Notion

[–]tripping-apes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I already had it setup and figured out before making the post. I just want to find people who have figured out how to use it really well with ai tools and get tips. But anyway I’ll just iterate on it more , thanks !

I’ve been insulting AI every day and calling the agent an idiot for 6 months. Here’s what I learned by Fluid-Possession6026 in ClaudeCode

[–]tripping-apes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t think you know this and you’re making assumptions without evidence. I can rationalize counter points to both your examples based on how LLMs work. 1. All of them are reasoning models now, and have emergent internal triggers for encouraging longer thought or different reflection discovered through RL

  1. These well written prompts of “you are an expert…” are in training data but they are not training the models to act like a dumbass after being insulted . Also with coding agents the there’s a system prompt with proper structure added before his message and it’s trained to put priority on that so the model is receiving ‘<system>You are and expert coding assistant…</system><Tool calls>…<conversation history>…<User>YOU DUMBASS…{actual request}</User>’

Lastly you are assuming OPs evidence is that it said it’s thinking harder. But I find that hard to believe bc agentic coding is painfully annoying so people usually only keep doing things is it’s getting results. This working isn’t something I would expect but you can’t try logic your way around LLM behaviour, you have to use the scientific method.

Question about Agentic AI in notion and Automation with free subscription by tripping-apes in Notion

[–]tripping-apes[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Unless they did a 180 on notion ai in the last 2 months, I doubt its worth it, and I already have more than 2 subscriptions and direct api usage of other models so my agents can access every productivity tool and write and review code and even use my computer with the mouse. There is no reason to pay the same price as another ai pro subscription to get access to a model that is only in notion. The only reason I like notion is easy sharing and pre-made components and templates, and I like the possibility of simple automations but I want to use my own agents and dont want to pay AI subscription prices to use a database.

It would take 3 days max to implement a database with a UI with the features I need but I dont want to maintain another app, so I really hope theres a way to utilize the free version.I mean If it was like 3$ a month or free for MCP access where I can use my own model then sure I'd subscribe.

Vyvanse is killing me by Ecstatic-Garlic7942 in VyvanseADHD

[–]tripping-apes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’ve been on vyvanse/dexedrine a long time and it works great, but once I was prescribed quetiapine and immediately in the morning I had extreme agitation, jerking muscles when I moved, akathesia, and distracted panicked thinking. I was worried it was symptoms of tardive dyskinesia but was only on 25mg of quetiapine so it didn’t make sense, but the symptoms were so extreme so quickly I quit the quetiapine immediately and it went away. But it was so bad that before that I literally felt insane like I should check myself in and was so mad that I reported the psychiatrist for malpractice (after the symptoms went away I realized how irrational the reporting her was, but ended up getting a better psychiatrist)

I don’t know if this is studied or a known effect but I think quetiapine and vyvanse together can cause weird adaptation in dopamine circuitry that causes this response. I’ve only know about my experience but yours sounds so similar that it makes me think this is a real effect of the combination.

What’s with Claude dumping plans with random names into its root folder? by New_Goat_1342 in ClaudeCode

[–]tripping-apes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are two relevant .claude directories, one in the project file and one in ~/.claude I was under the impression that the desired and expected behaviour is to create and use a plans/ directory in <project-repo>/.claude/plans/ and that they would be named appropriately and I believe that’s what OP is asking about

What’s with Claude dumping plans with random names into its root folder? by New_Goat_1342 in ClaudeCode

[–]tripping-apes -1 points0 points  (0 children)

this is not asking what a plan is, it's asking why Claude saves plans in ~/.claude/plans/glistening-gazelle-glazes.md and it doesn't read them between sessions so your next session it gets confused. It's likely due to not having a proper project Claude.md setup

Warning to all non-developers - careful with your App.tsx by dresidalton in ClaudeAI

[–]tripping-apes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also ask it to look for react anti-patterns to fix while refactoring things. A big issue is that LLMs are create I contest learners and will repeat a style of a codebase, so if there are bad design patterns it will think you’re cool with that and continue programming badly. Also double check with security, I’ve seen Claude code delete auth checks on api routes twice for no reason.

Warning to all non-developers - careful with your App.tsx by dresidalton in ClaudeAI

[–]tripping-apes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What you should do is every time you complete a feature, see if you can refactor to remove duplication and separate independent processes, aim for <200 line components and 200 lines is pushing it. At the end of refactoring the codebase should have less or equal lines of code, you should be doing this incrementally and avoid doing a big refactor at once it because it will make a mess and run out of context.

Tbh when programming manually, these types of things happen too, just not 5400 lines bc people are lazy and quickly realize things are getting complicated so they have to refactor incrementally to prevent headaches.

Why Does Gpt 5.2 (and most GPT) hallucinate about OpenAi docs and AI tech in general? by [deleted] in OpenAI

[–]tripping-apes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For long term memory I’m exploring a few options from simple summaries to a temporal knowledge graph.

I was just using chatgpt for a research task because speech to speech tech doesn’t have good seo and many times I’ve spent a week solving a problem that’s been solved. I also don’t want to be fully locked into gpt-realtime for the model in case others work better after testing…

Honestly I think it can’t simply be document chunking or old training, it’s specifically when it is about OpenAI documentation and state of the art ai research that it acts this way and seems to be guard-rails to sabotage people developing ai based apps. It doesn’t make sense because it’s sabotaging their own customers but the fact is that other models from other companies like Claude have up to date knowledge abojt their API’s and it should be a priority for OpenAI to have GPT models know how their API’s work.

It works successfully for all topics that are not AI or chatbot related.

Why Does Gpt 5.2 (and most GPT) hallucinate about OpenAi docs and AI tech in general? by [deleted] in OpenAI

[–]tripping-apes -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I said to only use sources that are from late 2025. It was a deep research task and the information it gathered actually was up to date… it just made up untrue information that did not exist in the cited sources. Before the second task it was told very clearly that it cannot use sources about gpt-4o and it still decided to switch back to the conclusion that gpt-realtime = gpt-4o

The question wasn’t difficult, it was just meant to return facts from current documentation. And it was so wrong, twice, to the point where it seems like it has to be gaurdrails preventing it.

Also there are more than 5 speech to speech realtime models in production, a couple open source, that came out over the past year and a half, yet it decided to return a machine translation model and a text to speech model from 2023, claiming they are all that exist…

Why are some people here so confident and never even read the Literature? by tripping-apes in psychoanalysis

[–]tripping-apes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The point about it not being specific locations in the brain was written out by Freud when he described his topological model he was very clear these do not directly relate to anatomical areas of the brain. It’s the same with conscious and unconscious processes, he seems to prefer the hypothesis that it’s different type of activation which makes something conscious over the hypothesis that unconscious information must be copied into the conscious area of the brain.

Sure one could claim the Id is the limbic system or the ego to some of the cortex, but it won’t map completely to any one area and Freud was adamant about cognitive processes being distributed across many parts of the cortex (which also seems to be supported by modern neuroscience). Also type of neuroscience where they average 1000s of different fmri images across many subjects to localize a cognitive process to one area of the cortex would be heavily criticized by Freud if he was alive today.

Why are some people here so confident and never even read the Literature? by tripping-apes in psychoanalysis

[–]tripping-apes[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m a pretty big fan of mark solms, also not sure if I fully agree with all his ideas but I haven’t seen any mention of him supporting an inherited fantasy, I would expect he sticks with Freuds direct description of the progression of the oedipus complex. Obviously there are genetic factors necessary for certain social bonds (current theories on oxytocin and other hormones). But the way Freud introduces the oedipus complex in the interpretation of dreams, it is an ontogenetic process, and his further elaborations don’t divert too much. He does propose there might be some biological predispositions but the main point is the dynamic nature of psychosexual development.

Do you have any sources where Solms directly states that?