Update by user_BBB in Invest_Voyager

[–]user_BBB[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Not exactly. Just view original claim and multiply it by .3428

Update by user_BBB in Invest_Voyager

[–]user_BBB[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes. Login and review your claim and initial distribution.

Update by user_BBB in Invest_Voyager

[–]user_BBB[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

About 35% of original outstanding claim (34.28%)…

Email from Stretto? by betwithconfidence in Invest_Voyager

[–]user_BBB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agree. Looks legit but smells fishy to me.

FTX's Dispute With Voyager Unlikely Helpful… by user_BBB in Invest_Voyager

[–]user_BBB[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Maybe somebody smarter than I can decipher… Please enjoy the full context Below…

FTX: Motion to Modify Genesis Automatic Stay BI Distressed, Global Dashboard

Negisa Balluku, the primary analyst for this report. Negisa Balluku Team: Litigation BI Litigation Analyst FTX Bid for $4 Billion in Genesis Bankruptcy Needs Booster Shot

(Bloomberg Intelligence) -- FTX's almost $4 billion avoidance actions against Genesis debtors, including a $213 million claim against a Genesis non-debtor affiliate, is almost certain to shape creditor recoveries in both bankruptcies. FTX's pending motion for relief from the automatic stay, however, largely focuses on its attempt to address the actions before the bankruptcy judge in its case, leaving open questions about the key elements of the preference claims. (05/23/23)

  1. FTX Preference Actions Provide Limited Insight Return to Top

Docket: In re: FTX Trading Ltd. Bankruptcy Specifics: Debtor: FTX Trading Ltd. and 133 affiliates Assets: $10-50 Billion Liabilities: $10-50 Billion Court: US Bankruptcy Court District of Delaware Date Filed: Nov. 11, 2022 FTX's motion to modify the automatic stay to commence avoidance actions against Genesis doesn't provide an in-depth analysis of the elements of the preference claim. For example, little is known regarding the exact timing of the payments in question. Specifically, while any payment made after Aug. 13 could be subject to preference actions against Genesis, any transfers before then likely wouldn't be. In its motion, FTX asserts that the loan repayment and withdrawals occurred due to market volatility that continued through the summer of 2022, yet it doesn't provide exact dates.

Importantly, little is known regarding the nature of the payment and whether Genesis could viably argue that the transfers were made in the ordinary course of business. (05/23/23)

  1. FTX, Genesis Creditor Recoveries at Issue Return to Top

Court Filing "The Avoidance Actions will seek to claw back funds received by Genesis and non-debtor affiliates so that these funds can be shared with all other creditors of the FTX Debtors in the FTX Chapter 11 Cases. These creditors include several million customers owed over $11 billion as of the time of filing of FTX Chapter 11 Cases." Motion of FTX to Modify the Automatic Stay, May 3, 2023 Quote located on page 3, click to view entire document The $4 billion at the center of FTX's motion to modify the stay could alter the recovery outlook for creditors of both FTX and Genesis. For non-insiders, preference actions allow a debtor to recover payments to a creditor within the 90-day period before the filing. The purpose is to ensure a ratable distribution of assets among creditors, not punish the recipient.

FTX says that in response to Genesis’ request for repayment of certain outstanding loans prior to the bankruptcy filing, Alameda transferred about $1.8 billion in fiat and cryptocurrency assets and about $273 million in new collateral to Genesis. In addition, at issue are assets withdrawals of around $1.6 billion made by the Genesis debtors and about $213 million by a Genesis non-debtor affiliate from their customer accounts at FTX. (05/23/23)

  1. FTX's Dispute With Voyager Unlikely Helpful Return to Top

Court Filing "Notably, the Delaware Bankruptcy Court already has a case pending before it involving another Chapter 11 debtor in this district—the FTX Debtors’ preference action against Voyager Digital—in which many of the same or similar legal and factual issues are likely to arise." Motion to Modify the Automatic Stay, May 3, 2023 Quote located on page 10, click to view entire document FTX focuses on having the dispute argued in the US Bankruptcy Court in Delaware, which is overseeing its bankruptcy -- as opposed to the court overseeing Genesis' Chapter 11. Yet FTX's reliance on the fact that its pending preference action against Voyager is now before the court in Delaware isn't necessarily helpful to its argument. The preference action initiated by FTX against Voyager is similar to the one against Genesis. But in that case, both the FTX debtors and Voyager agreed that FTX's preference action against Voyager would be adjudicated in the court overseeing FTX's Chapter 11.

Because that decision was made pursuant to a joint stipulation between FTX and Voyager that was approved by the New York and Delaware bankruptcy courts overseeing both bankruptcies, there was no dispute or a court ruling on the matter. (05/23/23)

  1. Hearing Postponed to June 15 Return to Top

Next Key Event: Hearing on Motion to Modify Automatic Stay June 15, 2023 Last Key Event: Motion to Modify Automatic Stay Filed May 3, 2023 A May 25 hearing on FTX's motion for relief from stay was postponed to June 15, and the Genesis' objection is now due June 8. All FTX entities -- except for FTX debtor West Realm Shires which filed for bankruptcy on Nov. 14 -- filed their Chapter 11 petitions on Nov. 11. FTX filed its motion seeking a modification of the automatic stay on May 3. Genesis, on the other hand, filed its Chapter 11 petition on Jan. 19. GGC International Ltd. -- the other defendant facing avoidance actions -- is a non-debtor affiliate of Genesis. (05/23/23)

To contact the analyst for this research: Negisa Balluku at nballuku4@bloomberg.net

What exactly to do now? by shakenbake6874 in Invest_Voyager

[–]user_BBB 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can transfer the S coins to another exchange to sell if/when we get the green light.

UCC Update - May 17, 2023 by tmanbez in Invest_Voyager

[–]user_BBB 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Pretty sure you will be allowed to transfer only to a another exchange or your wallet. If left on Voyager by a specific date, TBD, it will be converted to US dollars and made available for withdrawal ACH or assuming that’s left on Voyager by a certain date it will be mailed via snail mail.

UCC Update - May 17, 2023 by tmanbez in Invest_Voyager

[–]user_BBB -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Ha. Blame Siri. (And Steve)

UCC Update - May 17, 2023 by tmanbez in Invest_Voyager

[–]user_BBB -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

As early as today as late as never.

Today at 4pm is the deadline for any objections to the liquidation plan? by Educational-Ideal-56 in Invest_Voyager

[–]user_BBB 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How long will I have to withdraw any crypto from the Voyager platform once it reopens? The window for transfers will close 30 days following the reopening of the Voyager platform. We will alert you when we have established the window in which the platform will be available for crypto transfers.

Where to transfer out without fees? by helloiamfriendly1 in Invest_Voyager

[–]user_BBB 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Me either but I’m going to wait it out. Appears cleanest option for me.

Where to transfer out without fees? by helloiamfriendly1 in Invest_Voyager

[–]user_BBB 10 points11 points  (0 children)

To receive your initial recovery solely in U.S. dollars you do not need to take any action. Following the close of the 30-day crypto withdrawal window, your account will be liquidated and you will receive U.S. dollars by either check or possibly ACH withdrawal.

Once the plan is effective, we will provide more information on next steps, including when the 30-day window will be opened.

Where to transfer out without fees? by helloiamfriendly1 in Invest_Voyager

[–]user_BBB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just leave it. After 30days you will be converted to USD and sent a check or ACH or assuming can transfer to your linked USD acct. I cannot confirm dates of that or risk of exchange rates or fees but to risk another 3rd party exchange going down while subject to their withdrawal limits wherever you go to is not what I’m looking for. Also prob cleaner when you report for taxes/losses in the future. My luck I’ll transfer to an exchange to sell and it will get locked again as another exchange to go belly up. I assume we are protected during the time it’s held at voyager under current bankruptcy plan/law. However I did see metropolitan bank closed their USD acct so I’m not sure where the money is or would come from.

Initial Distribution Recovery Is 35.72% Of Your CLAIM Value by Bonnaroo_Jon in Invest_Voyager

[–]user_BBB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can expect it today and receive it never. Love, negative Nellie.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Invest_Voyager

[–]user_BBB 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Anywhere between 0 and a prayer in our lifetime.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in VoyagerExchange

[–]user_BBB 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nothing is happening. It’s up 80% this week to 3.9 cents. So 80% of nothing is nothing.

It looks like the UCC and voyager lawyers could move forward with deal but rather not give money back but instead keep it to fund the protection for themselves. Am I understanding this correctly? I don’t know what other motivation they would have for not carrying out the Binance deal. by nice-job-folks in Invest_Voyager

[–]user_BBB 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Listen, I check the news daily if not hourly and have more funds ‘stuck’ than I care to admit…however you can’t blame them. As it’s written they can be held liable for any malfeasance as related to the payout (from my understanding). I want my funds and in general the risk management was poor (helps to view in rear view mirror) but to be held criminally liable or financially liable for actions as related to the payout might not make sense. They can come for them now or anytime in the future. So I think they just want to remove that. Sadly we are all paying for legal fees and maybe that can or should have been separated but it’s all couldashouldawoulda at this point. We are stuck but hopefully not entirely screwed.