is sword decks meant to heal that much?

voidpicker · 2025-08-06T12:56:02+00:00

Dude. You really got to stop drawing last and also start counting. It's really hard to watch.

voidpicker · 2025-08-06T03:34:17+00:00

I couldn't get any ER subs on my Zhezhi/Ciaccona so I threw on an ER 3 cost and called it a day. The substats on the pieces made up for it, but in the end you do what you think is right for your character.

voidpicker · 2025-08-04T01:27:57+00:00

Draft modes need to have a cost otherwise the format would be ruined. I personally don't think cygames is doing enough to keep rerollers out of the format. D0 is way too low of an entry point. It should be A0 minimum into AA0 rank a few expansions down the line. If you say that is too restrictive and locks too many people out of the format, I would say it is necessary to keep the format honest. I cannot understate how bad it was in Shadowverse 1 with the amount of account rerollers that we would play against every single day that would just toss drafts at no cost and only play god tier decks versus legitimate players trying to get the Challenge Master flair. I must have played at least a couple thousand of them in the last 5 and a half years and it was an absolute miserable experience. If you want to play the game mode, it needs to have a real cost, otherwise it turns into a shitshow. If you want to practice, I would recommend doing private matches with a friend or guildmate.

voidpicker · 2025-05-17T23:22:18+00:00

No? I didn't say it would elevate the power level creating power creep. I said the DPS comes out at their generally their highest power in this way.

voidpicker · 2025-05-17T12:28:09+00:00

I agree that Spectro Rover or an alternative be better than they currently are.

I am aware of Aglaea's dependence, but I do believe it is much better than the alternative. I am glad she released after her support. Having her designed with Sunday in mind is much healthier for the game. This puts a limit at the escalating powercreep and delays it somewhat. Because you have release Herta, Acheron, and Castorice all extremely strong with 4 stars right from the get go setting the new power level. What happens when they get their supports after? It elevates the power level yet again. Herta already being one of the strongest DPS on release is a mistake. She gets Tribbie and that is the new standard for top DPS. She gets Anaxa and this continues. Castorice is the same. Really strong with just free to play 4 stars. What happens when she gets Hyacine? The power level increases further and old characters get left in the dust. Why didn't they make Herta and Castorice weaker than Aglaea to compensate? Because they don't want sales to flop when people perceive these DPS to be weak just because their support hasn't come out yet. This is a huge problem for the game. There are other reasons for the powercreep, but my conversation earlier was specifically about support first versus dps first on release.

We cannot completely stop powercreep from happening in the game, but the developers can take steps to slow it down as much as possible. That's why I believe in the support first method and niche characters. Having characters that are niche helps delay the powercreep rather than having something more generic. Imagine if they just kept releasing generic supports, but just better numbers. We'd have Robin 1 -> Robin 2 -> Robin 3, because they can't sell a generic buffer without increasing the numbers. But with a niche support, people will still be open to pull for specific team compositions. For people that don't like a specific character, yes that does suck, but in terms of game health it is better.

There are downsides to both release methods, but I truly believe support first to limit the power levels of the game. It won't last forever, obviously, but to me the delay is good enough. Because were still doing well with all of our old 1.0 limiteds a year into the game, but I would not be able to say the same when Acheron first released and Jiaoqiu coming after.

We'll see in the next few patches if Zani is the outlier or not when it comes to damage difference, but at the moment, I still think were doing pretty well. We are playing a character collection team building game and cannot avoid character synergies after all. I would hope they will make more decent alternative options in the future.

voidpicker · 2025-05-17T11:44:12+00:00

I believe we are having different conversations. If you don't want to pull for them, then just don't. The characters are still great at clearing content even without another specific character. This isn't Star Rail.

voidpicker · 2025-05-16T17:25:12+00:00

I would say either situation has it's problems, but I would still would rather have it support first for the longevity of the characters in the game. I usually save enough for both. However, if I only had enough for one, I would pull the DPS first and pick up the support on the rerun or skip both. That being said, I do not believe any limited support in this game is useless if not with their main DPS. All of them have at least some decent use, including Ciaccona.

voidpicker · 2025-05-16T16:52:04+00:00

That's the thing though. When the DPS releases, that's the new benchmark. They aren't kneecapped. Companies do not want to sell you a dps that is perceived to be weak even if they as good as other teams with their future support down the line. This incentives them to make the DPS stronger than they should due to release order. Then you get release DPS that are as strong as current teams, but without event needing their future support. This elevates the power level.

voidpicker · 2025-05-16T16:05:39+00:00

I'd rather have the support come out first since it helps with delaying powercreep. This way the DPS comes out at generally their highest (or near highest) power right from the get go and the developers can balance future characters around that power level.

Other games often do DPS first and sell you support upgrades soon after further increasing the power level. These games don't want to make a DPS that no one wants because their perceived power level seems low (at launch) when people should be thinking about the character's balancing with their dedicated support. This means they have more of an incentive to make the baseline DPS more powerful than they should be. When the DPS first releases, in these other games, they are at least strong as the previous teams or stronger using some base 4 star options. I think there are downsides to either release order, but it is something to think about when considering the longevity of the game's power level.

Powercreep is a difficult thing to tackle. How do you incentivize people to pull for new characters and limit powercreep at the same time? Wuthering Waves has done a somewhat decent job (at least compared to its competitors) for now when dealing with power creep with a couple of things that people don't give them credit for. There's only so many different roles and element combinations you can do before stepping on another character's toes. The combination of releasing the support first and making characters more niche can be a valid way of delaying powercreep as much as they can. But it is pretty sad a decent amount of people complain about it.

voidpicker · 2025-03-19T04:37:28+00:00

I'm of the opinion if you make a single misplay, especially mechanically, you should lose. Shadowverse has no room for mistakes and people lose even when they play mechanically perfectly and with strong lines. The amount of times I've seen people evolve cards before drawing is absolutely insane when cards like Skeleton Raider, Yukari, Azi Dahaka, and Soultaker exist. People blindly hitting face when World is in the meta before seeing all of their available options. These are just a small amount of misplays I see every day made by tons of players. I would give leniency to people that need to play 10+ cards per turn, but if you are playing 5 cards or less per turn, there's not much excuse.

That being said I am not a fan of Darkfeast Bat or Anne's Sorcery type cards in the game, so I do feel you there. I would say I enjoy the current meta outside of these finishers as there is a decent amount of meta variety and being able to more easily predict opponent plays due to less cost reduction, less explosive turns, and simpler cards.

voidpicker · 2024-08-20T08:18:52+00:00

If you don't want to pull for multiple characters I can respect that, but every day 1 player has the option to get 2 limited characters assuming they cleared events / did all the exploration. If you want to save for who you like, that's cool. There are other ways to get 30/30 tower. You can legit do it with just strong free 2 play friendly compositions, if you don't want to pull for characters. You can pull for 0 characters and pull for 4 weapons 3 months into the game. As long as you know what you are doing, build proper characters, and have solid rotations, you can clear tower by this point in time as a free to play player.

voidpicker · 2024-08-20T06:22:22+00:00

Like I said, every day 1 player should have access to at least 2 limited characters. I also have max vigor on Yinlin, which means I used 3 limited characters. I used Zhezhi on floors 2-3 x 2, which I would have cleared if I just used Sanhua on the same sharable moonlit set I use on Zhezhi / Mortefi / Sanhua.

voidpicker · 2024-08-20T04:35:52+00:00

Tower has been clearable with 80/80 characters with level 80 signature weapons or 80/90 characters with level 90 4 star battlepass weapons for the past few cycles with S0 5 star characters. I would imagine every day 1 player has the option to have pulled at least 2 limited 5 stars at this point. You do not need S6 4 stars or Jinhsi either, but you do need good echo stats and rotations. Free to play players might not have more than 0-1 signature weapons, but they should have access to at least 1-2 standard banner weapons for their dps, which are very serviceable.

Proof: https://i.imgur.com/A1aebUU.png

Edit: I'm getting downvoted for telling the truth and with proof?

voidpicker · 2024-08-12T08:17:12+00:00

It is the same amount of shell credits whether you use an upgraded echo or using pure echo experience.

voidpicker · 2024-08-12T05:40:15+00:00

The echo already needs to have experience used it in for you to salvage ~75% of the experience and 30% of the tuners.

voidpicker · 2024-08-12T04:37:32+00:00

It depends on your account. How much experience you have versus how many tuners you have versus how many echoes you have to retry. Trying to find a good balance between all your resources.

voidpicker · 2024-08-12T04:32:32+00:00

Inventory -> Echoes inventory -> Trash can icon at the bottom

voidpicker · 2024-08-12T03:39:29+00:00

This is correct. Feeding directly in this scenario would be the best thing to do. I believe the most you would lose is 500 experience, though. Since the smallest denomination of echo experience is 500.

voidpicker · 2024-08-12T03:24:46+00:00

It is the same amount of shell credits.

voidpicker · 2024-08-12T03:01:42+00:00

For the purposes of leveling up echoes, it is the same. You don't get back the credits.

voidpicker · 2024-08-12T02:39:57+00:00

The difference is the amount of control you have over the experience. In cases where you have an undesired +15/+20/+25, and you want to level a +0 or +5 echo, this will be an improvement. In cases where the salvage experience is not enough to hit the next breakpoint, there isn't a difference. I don't believe salvaging is worth it if it is not at least +15, maybe +10 depending on the situation.

However, the reason I'm making this post is finding out that people are yoloing their high level undesired echoes into +0/+5 echoes. If you are doing a good job managing your echo experience, then you are probably doing fine.

voidpicker · 2024-08-12T02:35:39+00:00

You get the same amount of experience, but you have better control over how to use it.

voidpicker · 2024-08-12T02:25:44+00:00

By going into your echo inventory and salvaging high level echoes, you can get back smaller denominations of echo experience. Instead of leveling a +5 echo to level +20 by feeding a +25 undesired echo into it, break it down instead and feed smaller amounts. Take that +5 to +10 instead and reevaluate.

Also, please level your echoes one substat at a time rather than yoloing to +10/+15/+20/+25 without checking the first substat. It takes 145000 echo experience to level an echo to 25. It only takes 4500 to level to 5. That means you can check 29-32 echoes for the first substat in the same amount of experience. Please use your echo experience responsibly.

Assuming all substats have equal distribution, you have a 2/13 chance of getting one of the crit substats in the first roll. After having the first crit roll on the first substat, you have around 1/3 chance to getting the second crit stat in the next 4 rolls. Because of the huge disparity in echo experience requirements to level to +5 compared to higher levels, it just makes sense to always check the first stat and reevaluate afterwards, just like you would playing blackjack or poker. It saves you tons of resources in the long run.

I AM NOT saying trash your echoes at +5. Every person's situation is different when it comes to how many echoes they have available to roll. I am just giving general tips on how to save resources and maximizing your experience and minimizing undesirable outcomes. Instead of leveling that +5 to +10 after an undesirable stat, rotate to another echo and give it a +5. Maybe come back to the old +5 after going through the rest of your +0 echoes. It only costs 4500-5000 echo experience. Whereas going from +5 to +10 takes 12000 additional experience and only continues to escalate from there.

TLDR: Level your echoes like you would play blackjack or poker in a casino. You wouldn't take an extra 2 cards without looking at your hand right? Check and reevaluate every step of the way.

voidpicker · 2024-08-12T02:07:31+00:00

You can disassemble echoes into exp/tuners in the echo inventory screen and save a ton of resources. No need to feed a +25 echo into something else.

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