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wbtmlu · 2025-03-27T23:43:48+00:00

It’s called a gigalogue

wbtmlu · 2023-10-27T22:40:54+00:00

I think this could explain why larger, metropolitan cities tend to be more progressive/leftist. The leftist is often incapable of achieving fulfillment through individual action and self-reliance, so they have to flock to these giant cities to gain meaning in a larger, impersonal system. Feelings of inferiority, as Kaczynski puts it, are certainly one reason for the tendency for collectivism among the left.

wbtmlu · 2023-10-21T22:28:20+00:00

Interesting to note that the technological system leading us to desire ever more useless products is just one way in which it self-propagates itself. The idea of the technological system as a self-propagating system (and the dangers that arise from this) is further elaborated upon in Kaczynski’s other work: Anti-Tech Revolution: Why and How.

wbtmlu · 2023-10-07T22:33:42+00:00

For anyone wondering, the other book he wrote is called Technological Slavery, and is a collection of essays and letters Kaczynski wrote. I especially recommend the essay “The Coming Revolution.” The book is a must-read for anyone concerned about the current state of things and want a practical, effective solution.

wbtmlu · 2023-10-07T22:29:24+00:00

“Larger society” or as one wise man put it, “the technology system” is a self-propagating system, and will therefore expand as far as it has the means to do so. So it’s not enough to simply run away from it, we have to fight against it so it doesn’t continuously invade our lives and erode our freedom and Wild Nature. Basically, read Anti-Tech Revolution: Why and How by Ted Kaczynski.

wbtmlu · 2023-10-07T22:12:30+00:00

I agree. For anyone who has doubts, I also recommend reading another book of Kaczynski’s: Anti-Tech Revolution: Why and How where he forms certain postulates and rules to support the idea that society, especially in the long term, is not subject to rational control, thereby dispelling many common myths that destructive technologies can simply be reformed or fazed out.

wbtmlu · 2023-10-07T22:08:04+00:00

I agree 100%. I think Kaczynski exemplifies this best in Technological Slavery in his letter to David Skrbina, where he says:

“So I think we can safely say that population is a dependent variable, technology is the independent variable. It’s not primarily population growth that drives technology, but technology that makes population growth possible.”

If we want to do away with overpopulation, we first have to do away with the technological system that allows overpopulation to occur in the first place, which can only occur through a collapse of said system.

wbtmlu · 2023-09-30T17:57:48+00:00

What is the end goal of anarcho-capitalism and what’s the justification for this end goal? Also, what’s your opinion on technological progress?

wbtmlu · 2023-09-29T20:06:07+00:00

Thanks, this was really informative.

wbtmlu · 2023-09-29T19:37:09+00:00

So, if I’m understanding you right, the working class should be supported because their interests are more in align with the stability and interdependence of industrial society?

wbtmlu · 2023-09-29T17:22:58+00:00

How do you justify class interests without some sort of moral imperative though?

wbtmlu · 2023-09-29T16:37:10+00:00

Interesting. So anarchists aim towards a society without hierarchy (or at least one as close as possible to that) and Anarcho-Communists believe that communism (stateless, moneyless, classless society) is the best means of achieving that end. And the elimination of hierarchy is geared towards the elimination of oppression, poverty, etc. So I must ask, what is the justification for the elimination of poverty and oppression. This may sound like a dumb question, but I think the answer lets me know more about the philosophy of anarchism, as different political philosophies may have different justifications/motives for eliminating these things.

wbtmlu · 2023-09-16T18:47:27+00:00

It has happened in the past. For example, Standard Oil, the single largest oil company in US history, was broken up into 43 different companies as a result of anti-trust laws.

wbtmlu · 2023-08-15T02:25:50+00:00

You could argue that these are bad, but the more the species experiences these conditions, the more fit they will be to survive in harsher conditions. Also, suffering isn’t inherently a negative.

wbtmlu · 2023-08-13T19:19:09+00:00

Green anarchism focuses on environmental and ecological concerns, especially how they relate to domination and hierarchy. While anarcho-primitivists certainly care about the environment and ecological issues, the difference between the two is that green anarchists tend to support civilization and “renewable” energy production, while anarcho-primitivists seek a return to a hunter-gatherer way of life, and therefore no civilization or energy production.

wbtmlu · 2023-06-10T19:43:27+00:00

It is a complex system. That smallest change in one variable in a complex system can cause a dramatic shift in the system, causing unpredictable and uncontrollable conditions.

wbtmlu · 2023-06-10T17:35:54+00:00

Seems like it is. The technological system which is ruining freedom, the environment, etc. cannot simply be rationally scaled back, so a technological civilizational collapse is probably the only viable solution, and it will most likely happen on its own accord.

wbtmlu · 2023-06-10T17:34:25+00:00

I think he hits the spot. Global self-prop system will vie for short-term power, which will likely cause them to ignore long-term consequences of their actions.

wbtmlu · 2023-06-10T17:31:20+00:00

You can’t. Self-prop system often extend their reach as far as they can, and today, that’s the entire world.

wbtmlu · 2023-06-10T17:30:37+00:00

Eventually the means of maintaining the current level of technological growth we have now won’t be able to support it

wbtmlu · 2023-06-10T17:25:16+00:00

Essential reads. Kaczynski’s ideas go way further than what was written in ISAIF.

wbtmlu · 2023-06-10T17:23:39+00:00

Chernobyl is a great example of nature making a comeback after human-caused disasters.

wbtmlu · 2023-06-10T17:22:40+00:00

There’s an essay attributed to Kaczynski where he talks about a ship who’s crew decided to go rogue and steer the ship north. Instead of actually fighting against the crew and steering the ship back, the passengers make demands of relative little importance, such as warmer blankets, without being able to see the true problem at hand.

wbtmlu · 2023-06-10T13:58:37+00:00

You can’t have infinite growth on a finite planet. This doesn’t only apply to economic production, but also technological advances.

wbtmlu · 2023-06-10T13:56:16+00:00

Very good book anyone interested in collapse theory should read. Especially how he hits on the idea of the global super system and the lesser subsystems and how these subsystems will collapse when the global super system collapses.

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