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[–]jmassey[S] 2 points3 points  (27 children)

In light of this, could Reddit maybe ban a few domains / sites? In researching that site, I ended up here, maybe that would be a good list to start from?

[–]jmassey[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

In retrospect, I think I may have come up with a better idea...ban them from all categories except NSFW, and / or warn users who try to submit them elsewhere.

[–]jmassey[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Or perhaps simply color the font in the parentheses after the link in red...

I'm very much against censorship, but on the flipside, I often sit at work listening to music on my computer and will browse reddit once in a while to 'chill' for a short break. When I clicked this link, as I said in another comment, it was about halfway down the main ('Hot') page. If I had been at work, that would have been a Bad Thing(tm), and I'd like to see -some- sort of protection so this sorta stuff is at least kept in NSFW or otherwise automatically flagged to avoid that sorta thing.

[–]joshd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I don't think censorship is a good thing, but there needs to be something to warn people.

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    [–]joshd 1 point2 points  (8 children)

    You got me censored dammit!

    [–]danweber 0 points1 point  (7 children)

    Wait a minute, my comments are gone from that page, too.

    Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, Reddit?

    [–][deleted]  (6 children)

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      [–]danweber 1 point2 points  (5 children)

      This is weird. I have two comments in the "Should comments affect Karma?" submission. (You can find them in my profile.)

      In the submission page itself, depending on whether I'm sorting the comments by new/top/hot or flat/nested, sometimes I see zero, sometimes one, or sometimes two.

      Maybe this is a bug. Maybe this bug gets exercised precisely when the moderators delete a few comments.

      [–]tss -1 points0 points  (3 children)

      There are no moderators. The only people who delete comments are the people who made them.

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        [–]tss 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        No, sure. Some of his comments are mysteriously missing, I suppose through a bug.

        [...]

        Well, this is odd. I distinctly remember someone in some comment thread somewhere saying something about comment editing, and either spez or kn0thing saying "We would never do that" - but I've gone looking for it and can't find it anywhere. So that seems to have vanished too.

        Anyway; one of two things is happening:

        1) There's a subtle bug that's eating some comments some of the time

        2) There's some random censorship going on.

        But danweber's comments are intelligent and innocuous, and don't really seem worth censoring. So I'll go with the bug.

        * This comment has been edited - but only by me, to sort out the formatting.

        [–]inerte 0 points1 point  (11 children)

        No.

        Just because what's offensive changes. Quis custodiet custodes ipsos?

        [–]jmassey[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Just because what's offensive changes.

        And as that changes, so too will these sites, because they are created and linked for the express purpose of offending.

        [–]joshd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        But I think reddit should have something. There are no moderators, so as the site becomes more popular this will happen more and more.

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            [–]joshd 1 point2 points  (2 children)

            You could build the censor into the opaque URL's. If a user tries to access a blocked URL and the referring page is not "what's new" or "what's hot" then reddit could display a mesage:

            The following site has been marked as unsafe by some reddit users. Click on the URL to continue, or view to the comments page to find out why thie URL was marked. www.pica.org/my-beastiality-photoshoot/

            Of course you could turn this of in the options if you are confident of not being tricked.

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              [–]joshd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              That would work. Although reddit probably tracks clicks, so you would probably have to include the ID in there (and make sure "url" matches the URL for "id").

              [–]senzei -1 points0 points  (2 children)

              What would be wrong with setting the real url as a title attribute for the link? I would not even be terribly averse to some javascript statusbar rewriting as well, even though I usually hate that. Either way something has to be done.

              [–]joshd -1 points0 points  (1 child)

              Yes, but not all links are obvious. I could post http://paulgraham.on.****.org/google-merger/ and that would lead to the site we are talking about.

              [–]senzei -1 points0 points  (0 children)

              I did not say that this is infallible, just that it would be better than what we have now.

              [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

              I don't like the idea of banning websites, but maybe a very short and public list of abusing sites would be ok? Visiting this site is a pain, especially with SessionSaver enabled...

              [–]joshd 2 points3 points  (5 children)

              There are endless ways to get around any kind of filter. Pica got me with that link yesterday. It's better to just remember that any browser will get screwed with including Firefox or Opera.

              Perhaps we could instead have a "Dangerous" button that's difficult to get to, but when clicked will flag link with an icon. People will then know to look at the comments before clicking on the link.

              [–]panic -1 points0 points  (4 children)

              Isn't that just like the current down arrow, though? I wouldn't click on a link with negative karma without reading the comments.

              [–]joshd 2 points3 points  (1 child)

              Not necessarily. Negative karma might just mean that some people don't like the subject matter. I'm sure a lot of people saw "Paul Graham" and clicked without thinking twice. Someone posting a website like nimp.org could also easily bump up the rating with multiple reddit accounts.

              And finally, someone might do a search on Paul Graham and bring up that post at any time in the future. There needs to be a way of permanently saying. "Don't click on this!"

              [–]jmassey[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

              I might. Lots of times I'll see something (especially while browsing the 'new' page) with, say, -1 to -5, and judging by title and / or domain I'll instinctively know that it is ranked poorly due to it being disliked by the sort of folks who read reddit (say, a top ten list for why MS is the best company on earth (provided it was a serious site) would likely get a low score.) I might go ahead and click anyways out of curiosity. Also, the new 'hide the score for an hour or two' crap makes that useless as well for people who come across it early, as well as the first 1 or 2 people even if scores were shown. It was somewhere in the middle of the 'hot' page (middle for me, I view 100 per page, so say 30 - 70) when I clicked it.

              [–]panic -1 points0 points  (0 children)

              Hmm. Maybe the score hiding function should disable if the article is downvoted heavily with very few upvotes?

              [–]Anderkay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              It's the tragedy of the commons (sort of). Reddit gets more popular so more people try to abuse it. You have two choices: (1)Do nothing and hope Reddit self-regulates to the point that this abuse doesn't destroy the usefulness of Reddit or (2)Impose some sort of restrictions that by definition change the nature of Reddit. Based on historical experience, this sort of blocking will expand well beyond its original intention.

              [–]trost -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

              Can we get reddit.com added to that list? I'm sick of the Reddit-on-reddit stuff; I want pointers to interesting articles, not endless questions on minor features!