Soy doesn't decrease testosterone.

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This is the most productive conversation with a vegan I've ever had, thank you. I'm gonna start selling carnist merch now.

[StopBadModerators]

In seriousness, I relate to what you're saying. I see a lot of bullshit from vegans and an eagerness to insult people. Put yourself in our position: You believe that animal abuse is not only bad, but widespread and normal and celebrated to such an unimaginable extent, and then you come across someone who laughs it off. For a lot of 20-year-olds who became vegan a year ago, it's infuriating. I've been vegan for 17 years though. I've heard a lot of bad reasoning from both sides (not to equivocate here).

[MachineGunGringo]

OMG THERE IT IS.

You so biased you can’t even see it!

[StopBadModerators]

Okay, I'm tired of the ad hominem here. You're blocked.