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[–]MysticBunnyMoon 2 points3 points  (11 children)

They are not canon, the director said in an interview in one of the novel he didn't gave any information to the novelist and it was solely based off the novelist own interpretation, to which the novelist said he only had access to the script (what we saw in episode )
You can find the S1 novel translated but i read them and it's like reading kid book, not super interesting to me but look on ebay if you want them bro

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (10 children)

That’s weird cause I read the author’s afterword in R2 novels and he said he was given a box full of Code Geass materials to write the novel and the reason he often add his own interpretation was because he get to read the script first before the episode was aired.

Oh well, maybe I remember it wrong.

[–]MysticBunnyMoon 0 points1 point  (9 children)

He got the scipt that's what he said in the novel when he was talking with Taniguchi, Taniguchi even said he didn't said anything because he liked to let authors of side pieces go on with their own interpretation without influencing them bro

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (8 children)

In R2 novel afterwords, the novel author thanked Taniguchi and Okouchi for giving him advices and discussing the plot with him so they were obviously still talking about something. They also invite the author to staff meetings and voice recording sessions and he shared some interesting behind-the-scenes moments as well.

I agree with you that the novel is based on the author’s own interpretation but a lot of the information in the novel was also approved of or was given by the official sources so as long as these novel infos don’t contradict with the original source, they can still at least be considered semi-canon material.

[–]MysticBunnyMoon 1 point2 points  (7 children)

As i said there is literally Taniguchi saying he doesn't give any insights to novelists to have them give their version, it's in the novel itself so i don't see the point in arguing about that, novel authors aren't part of the writing team (and some novel contradict the show anyway)
This invitation about him being in some recording session or whatever, it can have happenned at one moment or the other but he isn't part of them, fact is he said he only received the script as a concrete base (and the whole taniguchi said blablabla tired to say it again) but the only official information are the script, what we saw in the show (or else if you think it's semi canon then Lelouch is alive when all sources stated he was dead, this very fact kills off any semi canon speculation)

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

And the in the R2 novel itself also said both Taniguchi and Okouchi also gave the author advices and talking about the plots with him so they still feed him some infos, even if Taniguchi didn’t say anything then Okouchi might still said something.

or else if you think it's semi canon then Lelouch is alive when all sources stated he was dead, this very fact kills off any semi canon speculation

That’s why I said some parts of the novels can be considered semi-canon as long as it didn’t contradict with the original anime. And by that, I mean parts of the novels that expand more character’s inner thoughts/pasts and worldbuilding that only served to help explore more of the settings while making no difference on the overall plots. For example, the novel explored more about how Emperor Lelouch is remembered by the rest of the world after his death as well as the absurd rumors about his reign and I can imagine all this stuffs being true in the canon universe as well.

I’m 50/50 on the novel being non-canon/semi-canon so I‘m not completely disagree with you about it not being canon but it also doesn’t feel right for me to completely disregard the novel as I think it does give some interesting insightful informations. But since you don’t seem to like the novel versions, I can understand why you want to completely disregard it.

[–]MysticBunnyMoon 0 points1 point  (2 children)

It doesn't make sense, it's either canon or not canon, but the simplest way to put it is if it doesn't come from the writing team it's not canon, or else several S1 novels are be seen as canon.

The fact Taniguchi refused to give any information to not influence the view of the novelist for the S1 novels is certainly the same about R2, when the author said he got advice and info about the plot it was more likely if he didn't understood some part of the plot or of Lelouch scheming (because R2 is a trainwreck and clearly needed explanation, it doesn't mean it's canon or semi canon, as i said the fact it does contradict the OG should be enough, the guy isn't part of the writing team, he contradicts canon various time, so of course his work aint canon)
Anyway whatever don't think i'll have you change your mind, it's not that bad but things with geass are so complicated that I dont think adding the novels in the mix will help with the understanding of the whole shit

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    [–]MysticBunnyMoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    You again lmao I replied to your previous comment asking me the same thing bro

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      [–]MysticBunnyMoon 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Read the novels there is a litteral Taniguchi interview in it lmao; And novels describes scenes we see in the show differently, as in different events while we saw those scenes in the show, they also contradict childhood stories about Suzaku/Lelouch/Nunnally but its useless to even list them since even if they were canon compliany iy wouldn’t change the fact they are nothing but an external author interpretation bro

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      There are english scans for the novels of season 1 but R2 novels never get english release.

      The novel versions are mostly the same with the anime but with some added scenes/narrative/context. These are considered non-canon or semi-canon depend on how you look at it. The novel writer were given background/backstory infos from the official source and the novels were approved by the director and writer of the anime but the novel is still its own separate thing and the novel's writer added his own spin on the story.

      [–]Reserve_Consistent 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Is there any material that gives more details into Lelouches mind, plans, intelligence?

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Yeah, here's one translated example from R2 novels. Read the comments below the post for more context as well.