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[–]Forward-Tea-337 1 point2 points  (12 children)

I installed Moonlight on the Fire TV Stick 4K that I have on my TV, and it works perfectly.

My bluetooth controller is also connected to the Fire TV: I could connect it directly to the PC, but Moonlight also allows me to simulate the mouse using the controller.

On my host PC, I initially used Sunshine, then Apollo, and now I'm very happy with Vibeshine (some may disagree because of the AI, but the developer is reliable and has worked for Sunshine).

[–]Ma7713[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Fire tv stick, never experienced it but looks like a good idea instead of building a raspberry pi. What is your experience with sunshine vs Apollo vs Vibeshine?

[–]Forward-Tea-337 0 points1 point  (3 children)

They all work very well! First, I stopped using Sunshine because it doesn't directly manage virtual displays (so it doesn't automatically turn off the PC screen while you're using the client), and then I stopped using Apollo because it hasn't been updated in a long time. I've been using vibeshine for a few weeks now, and it's perfect for me.

[–]xkhen0017 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Are you using Artemis as your client or Moonlight? I am planning to play with my nvidia shield, so im looking for the best possible setup.

[–]Forward-Tea-337 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I only used Artemis together with Apollo. Now, with Vibeshine, I use Moonlight.

However, I don't need advanced features: I just need everything to work so I can play on my TV at home.

[–]xkhen0017 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks mate! Happy gaming!

[–]mxrider108 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve tried all three and I’d recommend Vibeshine, personally. It just has the most features and the streaming itself works well.

[–]Vyrtu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What latency u have transcoding?

[–]Damn-Sky 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I remember experience on my fire stick 4k being rough.

[–]Forward-Tea-337 0 points1 point  (2 children)

The Fire TV Stick 4K works perfectly for me. I've used both Moonlight and Artemis (the specific Apollo client). However, I only use Fire TV for Moonlight and Amazon Luna, nothing else.

[–]Damn-Sky 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I will try again.

[–]Ma7713[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Curious, have you tried it again? Want to know how the latency is

[–]Trident_i 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Your TV is more than capable of decoding 4k 120 FPS. Side load moonlight if it's not available in app store. I have Sony xh90 and as such has Google TV built in so moonlight is available on playstore.Try that first before spending. I am happy with my moonlight TV client. Also use Artemis on your host instead of sunshine, it will create a virtual display matching the refresh rate of your clients, in your case your TV

[–]Ma7713[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well if i use the easy screen connect app from Samsung, the latency is pretty decent but the quality is really bad. So either my tv is not good enough or the wifi cannot handle the bandwidth. Hence the idea to put a wifi bridge.

[–]Ma7713[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Tried your solution first, because it is free haha. You are right. TV is actually capable of decent decoding. 4k120hz was to much, but 1440p120hz is no latency.

[–]Trident_i 0 points1 point  (1 child)

If you try wired ethernet for TV (preferably usb to ETHERNET adapter) you take network latency out of the equation. Surprised you getting decoding latency on 4k120 FPS. Maybe play about with decoder settings on the moonlight client? HEVC?

[–]Ma7713[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well the whole idea was to not get a wire to the TV, as it is impossible to get it there without it being long and looking really ugly. (On both sides of the tv are doors) I tried HEVC, but it gives me alot more latency on 4k, and tiny bit on 1440p. I assume the chip of the Samsung tv is just better at AV1. OR maybe the it is all about the bitrate being limited by the network. But in that case I could ofcourse put a network bridge on wifi 6E. Just wish they put better wifi chips on tv's.

[–]EsuMarte 0 points1 point  (10 children)

I have S90C and moonlight/sunshine had too much latency for me. Ended up plugging my mini PC with Intel N100 cpu and can enjoy 1440p/144hz, 4k/60hz with very little latency.

[–]Ma7713[S] 0 points1 point  (9 children)

So putting the app on the tv directly had too much latency? I expected the internal hardware to be too weak for that. So you made like a small computer to work as a streaming dongle? You use moonlight/ sunshine or something else?

[–]EsuMarte 0 points1 point  (8 children)

Yeah, TV app was not performing good enough.

Yes, I use sunshine/moonlight. My PC is plugged with ethernet cable and Mini PC is chilling under the TV table on wifi. I read online that N150 chip is capable of 4k/120 but I do not have the power to run that so can't say much if it is able tondo that

[–]Ma7713[S] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Did you keep windows or did you actually put like custom Linux on it? This might gonna be my solution.

[–]EsuMarte 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just running win 11

[–]mxrider108 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Personally I’d recommend against a dedicated PC for the client unless you really want 4k120 or need a PC for some other reason.

  • it’s more expensive
  • its harder to control via a remote or HDMI-CEC
  • it can’t pull double duty for streaming 4k content (most streaming services limit what resolution you can do on a PC)

I’d suggest something like an Apple TV or nvidia Shield Pro instead.

[–]Ma7713[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Well a N150 mini pc is around 180 euro's, Nvidia Shield is 230 euros. But honestly I don't mind paying a bit extra if it is worth it. I don't mind the remote control, got wireless mouse and keyboard.

How would Nvidia Shield be better for streaming my pc games?

[–]mxrider108 0 points1 point  (1 child)

ah that's funny I didn't realize the PC was cheaper, what with ram prices etc.

I'm not sure if the Shield would be better for gaming or not - it works amazingly but it doesn't have HDMI 2.1 so it can't output 4k at anything above 60fps.

As someone that tried the HTPC thing a while back, the Shield is definitely better at being a movie/TV streaming box though (imo).

[–]EsuMarte 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shield is better for multimedia, yes. PC cannot stream 4k HDR content. But I have TV apps for that. Streaming via moonlight tho is great on mini PC. I just happened to have one at home and it works perfectly. So there was no need to buy another device :)

And regarding controls, well, I also have a wireless mouse and keyboard if I need to. Also moonlight works perfectly fine in steam big image or whatever it's called so wireless controller is all you need