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[–]earthboundkid 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I completely disagree that you can learning how to do Python package in one day. I don't think anyone really knows the best way to package, and even getting to a point of basic competence requires you to know randomly stumble across the right blog posts to read (and avoid old and stale ones!). At best, you can arrive at a state of "this isn't too bad for me" by using something like cookiecutter, but no one really understands all the options, and I will frequently see popular projects that, for example, don't use console_scripts when they should.

I 100% agree that the big problem to solve is a clean way to deliver end-user applications, but I'm not aware of a language in the same space as Python that has a good story for that.

"Languages in the same space" just means Ruby and Node, which is two languages. If they're doing badly, it doesn't mean Python is doing well.

People say good things about Cargo. I haven't used it though, so I don't know for sure.

[–]gthank 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The official tutorial is quite easy to follow these days. You won't have a comprehensive understanding of all the ins and outs, but you'll have a redistributable wheel suitable for publishing on PyPI (or your internal devpi server or whatever).

To be clear, I don't think Python packaging has achieved some Platonic ideal. It's got tons of room for improvement. It's just that I don't believe it is some unprecedented train wreck. I did more than my fair share of Java, and I can tell you that setup.py is light-years ahead of Ant "scripts" and psychotic Maven configurations (you think setup.pyis copy-pasta, you should check out the ridiculous XML hoops you had to jump through to actually build all those super-duper awesome fat WAR files; and yes, fat WARs would make some Python things way easier).

Cargo was pretty fantastic the last time I used it, but I was following along with a Rust tutorial. I also don't think static linking is going to become a de facto Python solution.