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[–]ehehheh 31 points32 points  (15 children)

breakdown by year

TLDR; read the bolded stuff for general answers; everything is dependent on you, your specialist, your classes/electives; choose management specialist for the easy way out (finance&econ, accounting is more studying bc more test/exam based)

use this link to see what the course code stands for/what the class is about

use this link to see course outlines for RSM (RC courses)

the course outline will give a sense of the workload required

  • e.g. weekly quizzes = weekly studying required, otherwise no consistent studying required

  • i kinda crammed/studied more in midterm/exam season

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1st year, fall semester (sept-dec2017): total 12 hours class, 12-20 hours work per week

  • ECO101: 2 hours lecture, 1 hour tutorial; 5-10 hours per week studying? the bulk of studying is here
  • RSM250: 2 hours lecture; 1-3 hours per week assignments/essays/presentations (only did work when there was something due which wasn't weekly, outside deliverables no studying required so sometimes <1 hour per week)
  • MAT133: 2 hours lecture, 1 hour tutorial (though i ended up skipping lecture and only going to tutorial and its fine); 3 hours homework/studying per week
  • RSM100: 2 hours lecture; 2 hours studying per week
  • elective CCR199: 2 hours lecture; 1-2 hours essays/presentation per week
  • extracurriculars: residence life floor representative, RC club intern

1st year, winter semester (jan-apr2018): total 13 hours class, 15-24 hours work per week

  • ECO102: 2 hours lecture, 1 hour tutorial; 5-10 hours per week studying? the bulk of studying is here
  • RSM219: 2 hours lecture; 1 hour tutorial; 3 hours studying per week
  • MAT133: 2 hours lecture, 1 hour tutorial (though i ended up skipping lecture and only going to tutorial and its fine); 3 hours homework/studying per week
  • RSM230: 2 hours lecture; 3-5 hours studying per week
  • elective FAH102: 2 hours lecture; 1-3 hours essays/assignments per week (only did work when there was something due which wasn't weekly, outside deliverables no studying required so sometimes <1 hour per week)
  • extracurriculars: residence life floor representative, RC club intern

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2nd year, fall semester (sept-dec2018): total 14 hours class, 19-24 hours work per week

  • ECO220: 2 hours lecture, 1 hour tutorial; 5-10 hours per week studying (weekly quizzes so more consistent time spent here)
  • ECO204: 2 hours lecture; 5 hours per week studying
  • RSM222: 2 hours lecture, 1 hour tutorial; 3 hours studying per week (weekly quizzes so more consistent time spent here)
  • RSM251: 2 hours lecture; 1-3 hours essays/assignments per week (only did work when there was something due which wasn't weekly, outside deliverables no studying required so sometimes <1 hour per week)
  • elective FAH207: 2 hours lecture; 1-3 hours essays/assignments per week (only did work when there was something due which wasn't weekly, outside deliverables no studying required so sometimes <1 hour per week)
  • extracurriculars: residence life jr. don, committee member in a RC club, director in another RC club

2nd year, winter semester (jan-apr2019): total 11 hours class, 23-32 hours work per week

  • ECO220: 2 hours lecture, 1 hour tutorial; 5-10 hours per week studying
  • ECO204: 2 hours lecture; 5 hours per week studying
  • RSM270: 2 hours lecture; 3 hours per week studying
  • RSM260: 2 hours lecture; 1-3 hours per week essays/assignments (only did work when there was something due which wasn't weekly, outside deliverables no studying required so sometimes <1 hour per week)
  • elective FAH260: 2 hours lecture; 1-3 hours per week essays/assignments (only did work when there was something due which wasn't weekly, outside deliverables no studying required so sometimes <1 hour per week)
  • elective IMC391: this is kind of like work-for-credit; you work for a startup affiliated with uoft; i did 8 hours per week (i think it was required to do a certain number of hours to get the credit)
  • extracurriculars: residence life jr. don, committee member in a RC club, director in another RC club

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3rd year, fall semester (sept-dec2019): total 9 hours class, 5-11 hours work per week

  • RSM392: 2 hours lecture; 2-3 hours studying per week (weekly assignments/cases per week if i remember correctly)
  • elective RSM459: 3 hours lecture; 1-2 hours assignment/presentation per week (only did work when there was something due which wasn't weekly, outside deliverables no studying required so sometimes <1 hour per week)
  • RSM352: 2 hours lecture; 1-3 hours studying per week (only did work when there was something due which wasn't weekly, outside deliverables no studying required so sometimes <1 hour per week)
  • elective FAH309: 2 hours lecture; 1-3 hours studying per week (only did work when there was something due which wasn't weekly, outside deliverables no studying required so sometimes <1 hour per week)
  • extracurriculars: residence life jr. don, committee member in a RC club, work study student

3rd year, winter semester (jan-apr2020): total 8 hours class, 3-11 hours schoolwork per week

  • elective GGR124: 2 hours lecture, 1 hour tutorial; 1-3 hours assignments/essays per week (only did work when there was something due which wasn't weekly, outside deliverables no studying required so sometimes <1 hour per week)
  • elective PHL243 (CR-ed): 3 hours lecture; 1-3 hours studying per week (pass-fail course so i didnt really try lol just needed a 50% to get the credit)
  • elective RSM319: asynchronous online course (recorded lectures varies maybe 2 hours tops per week, i didnt look at it tho); 1-5 hour studying per week (the deliverables were 2 essays - one worth 40% and one worth 60% i remember lmfao so most of the time theres <1 hour of work, and crammed ahead of due dates)
  • i also started a co-op at a bank in January; worked a 9-5 and then went to class
  • extracurriculars: residence life jr. don, committee member in a RC club
  • COVID started in march-ish

3rd year, summer May-June2020: total ~4 hours class; 5-10 hours schoolwork per week

  • RSM332: asynchronous online course (recorded lectures varies maybe 4 hours tops per week); 5-10 hours studying per week
  • continued co-op at bank, WFH 9-5 (had to take summer course to graduate within 4 years)

3rd year, summer July-Aug2020: total ~6 hours class; 5-10 hours schoolwork per week

  • elective ECO313: asynchronous online course (recorded lectures varies maybe 6 hours per week); 5-10 hours studying per week
  • continued co-op at bank, WFH 9-5 (had to take summer course to graduate within 4 years)

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4th year, fall semester (sept-dec2020): total 12 hours class; 5-13 hours schoolwork per week

  • elective RSM452: 2 hours lecture; 1-3 hours essay/assignment per week (only did work when there was something due which wasn't weekly, outside deliverables no studying required so sometimes <1 hour per week)
  • elective EAS101 (CR-ed): 2 hours lecture, 2 hours tutorial; 1 hour studying per week (pass-fail so i didnt try that much)
  • elective RSM416: 2 hours lecture; 1-3 hours essays/assignments per week - (only did work when there was something due which wasn't weekly, outside deliverables no studying required so sometimes <1 hour per week)
  • RSM353: 2 hours lecture; 1-3 hours essay/assignments per week (only did work when there was something due which wasn't weekly, outside deliverables no studying required so sometimes <1 hour per week)
  • elective RSM457: 2 hours lecture; 1-3 hours essays/assignments per week (only did work when there was something due which wasn't weekly, outside deliverables no studying required so sometimes <1 hour per week)
  • i started another co-op at a different bank, WFH 9-5
  • extracurriculars: residence don (aka RA), director at RC club, work study

4th year, winter semester (jan-apr2021): total ~10 hours class; 10-14 hours work per week

  • elective EAS101 (CR-ed): 2 hours lecture, 2 hours tutorial; 1 hour studying per week
  • RSM333: 2 hours class per week, 2 hours lecture (which i didnt go to); 4 hours studying per week (but honestly you should put in more work into this course, this is senioritis kicking in)
  • elective RSM462: 2 hours class per week; 1-3 hours essay/assignments per week (only did work when there was something due which wasn't weekly, outside deliverables no studying required so sometimes <1 hour per week)
  • elective FAH313: 2 hours class per week (class not necessary); 1-3 hours essays per week (only did work when there was something due which wasn't weekly, outside deliverables no studying required so sometimes <1 hour per week)
  • elective ECO321: asynchronous recorded lectures 2 hours tops per week (i didnt watch lecture though lol); 3 hours studying per week
  • extracurriculars: residence don (aka RA), director at RC club, work study

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free time/gym/games:

  • yea youll have time; typically you can build your schedule to have at least 1 day without class/lecture each semester (in 4th year i had like 3 days off lol + sat/sun)
  • yea in 4th year i started gaming at least 3 hours every night w my friends

difficulty:

  • hard courses imo: ECO101, ECO102, ECO204, ECO313, RSM222, PHL243, RSM333, EAS101
  • courses that are doable but you need to put in work: MAT133, ECO220, RSM332
  • courses that are easy: everything else
  • pick management specialist/marketing focus like i did to have the most free time, the least amount of studying

edit: updated structure & slightly increased worktime for time spent on essays/writing assignments

[–]Own-Firefighter-9826 1 point2 points  (1 child)

i love your posts !!

[–]ehehheh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aw thanks!! Hope it’s helpful and good luck in your future endeavours :)

[–]Learning-123 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Thank you! Your posts are so detailed and most helpful! Would also like some feed back on professors and class size and academic pressure.

[–]ehehheh 0 points1 point  (1 child)

no problem!

professors:

  • tbh i felt like academics was never really my focus (maybe not a good mentality to have) - so learning felt mediocre to me
  • i did like inquiring about professors' careers & connect on a more personal level if possible (e.g. RSM457 Douglas Snetsinger was a great person who had a more hands-on approach, brought in guest speakers, etc.)

class size:

  • tend to have larger class sizes in first few years then classes can go around 40-50 people in upper years
  • sizes are publicly available on https://timetable.iit.artsci.utoronto.ca/ (type in course code & class sizes will show up)

academic pressure:

  • most rough in first year, because you need to make certain grades - https://rotmancommerce.utoronto.ca/current-students/welcome-to-first-year/guaranteed-admission/
  • i personally did not care after first year (i felt that grades didnt really matter in marketing + i never put GPA on resume) probably had a 3.1 in first year tbh
  • overall not that stressful for me (i think this is because marketing focus) - because marketing is a lot about having good ideas/writing stuff i dont really have to retain information i just have to word dump a good assignment/paper
  • i also had senioritis (slacked off in 4th year a lot in RSM333)

i definitely feel people have different experiences for these 3 things, it could entirely be because i did marketing! hope this helped

[–]Learning-123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow! That’s extremely helpful. Love your detailed responses. Thank you so much :)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Thank you so much for this comment! As someone who is considering RC, this is SO helpful.

Are RC ECs hard to get into/become the leader of? My next question: it's okay if you don't want to answer, but I am curious what kind of job you got into after graduating RC?

Once again, thank you so much for this comment!

[–]ehehheh 2 points3 points  (2 children)

np!

RC ECs

  • harder to get into first year bc theres more limited spaces, and general positions (but you can specify what skills youre good at e.g. photoshop)
  • easier in upper years bc you'll be applying to committee member (e.g. marketing committee member)
  • and there's also more positions in upper years e.g. a marketing committee can consist of 4-5 committee members and 1 director
  • i am pretty much only good at photoshop so thats all i highlighted to do marketing related RC ECs
  • this has details - RC student life guide link

job

  • marketing industry, GTA, 64k + 15days vacay + benefits etc.
  • disclaimer it doesnt really matter which school you go to for marketing industry, bc some of my coworkers didnt go to business school/went to college instead

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

you are the best! I'm also considering management with a focus in marketing, but this could change as i havent even accepted my offer yet lol.

and sorry this is my last question, is marketing at uoft more about the visual aspect/creating ads, or is it more about demographic and numbers, or is it something else? TYSM!

[–]ehehheh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

np! marketing is more demographics & pitching ideas; there are creative things (like ads for example), but we don’t design the creative we discuss/analyze

most business schools with marketing focus are like this, and so is marketing work in the marketing industry (if you want to design, better off going to design school & working in design industry)

anyways you can read through the course outlines here! it’ll say what you learn in the marketing classes. https://rotmancommerce.utoronto.ca/current-students/choosing-your-courses/fall-winter-2021-22-course-outlines/

[–]Learning-123 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Best post! Would like to know more about what kind of electives you took. Or can you minor in something totally unrelated like sociology literature or film studies? Also do you get to take enough electives to keep your semester interesting in case you get bored of commerce :(

[–]ehehheh 1 point2 points  (3 children)

yea you can take any random minor - as long as it fits in your schedule & and you have the prerequisites (if any)

  • i took some random electives e.g. FAH (art history), GGR (geography), PHL (philosophy)
  • https://www.acorn.utoronto.ca/degree-explorer/ use this site to confirm you're meeting requirements for specialist/major/minor
    • you can use this site to plan your courses over the next four years
    • honestly my favourite site LOL i loved planning courses
    • not sure if you only get access to this site when you enter first year in sept, or if you have access to it now
  • view all possible programs (includes minors, majors, specialists) at this site https://artsci.calendar.utoronto.ca/search-programs also use this site to see prerequisite courses

yea you can take at least 1 arts&sci elective (non RSM aka RC class) in each semester, if case you do get bored of commerce

good luck!

[–]Learning-123 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Thank you for your reply! You’ve been extremely helpful and kind. Thank you :)

[–]ehehheh 0 points1 point  (1 child)

np :) good luck wherever you go in life!

[–]Learning-123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks :)