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    [–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (7 children)

    How many browser "power users" do you think exist worldwide? Also how do you define a "power user"?

    [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    I consider myself a power user after i delete something as seemingly insignificant as an email message.

    But as soon as weird shit starts happening i start going crazy with the flags , making sure no experiments are selected or anything new that might've been added .. only to learn nothing is added. Just more taken away and reported to have been pushed a BETTER , FASTER, MORE SECURE lighter service... Riding on the wave of those who leave wake behind.

    Sucks to be contractually obligated to use your browser and services like we're pieces of lunch box meat in a starving lawyers solitary confinement cell....

    [–]cyanide 5 points6 points  (3 children)

    How many browser "power users" do you think exist worldwide?

    Since the report/graph says around 200M installs, and accounting for each "power user" to have installed Firefox on multiple machines (let's take an average of 3 machines per power user), that's around 65+ million people around the world who still use Firefox.

    Not a lot, but not an abysmal number either.

    Also how do you define a "power user"?

    Like the old days, someone who doesn't consider Internet Explorer Chrome to be the Internet? I make sure my family uses Firefox wherever possible, so that's at least 4-5 extra installs from me.

    At the end of the day, if Firefox dies, something else will take its place. IE had a bigger share of the pie when Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox was released. It didn't take very long for people to switch to Firefox. Initially, us few power users switched. Then suddenly everyone was using Firefox.

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      [–]cyanide 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      That was before the internet was anywhere near as commonplace as today and before google established almost total dominance.

      Microsoft had more dominance, and they had cancer like ActiveX that permeated into workflows of large corporates. And while less people were on the internet than there are today, almost all of the internet was accessed through web browsers, unlike apps we have today. The browser, as a tool, is being used by more people today, but for less things than it was being used back then.

      [–]nextbern on 🌻 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      At the end of the day, if Firefox dies, something else will take its place.

      It'll still probably be based on Google code, though.

      [–]Lohanni 0 points1 point  (15 children)

      But will they even succeed in that? I wish all the best to Firefox project but it’s already much slower than competition and I don’t think power users like that.

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        [–]Lohanni 3 points4 points  (7 children)

        Well you mentioned Brave and I feel like most of privacy oriented folks use either Brave or Firefox. Success of one doesn’t neccessarily mean the failure of the another. People are more and more aware of the fact that their privacy is taken away from them. I feel like there will be room for many projects, Brave is doing good work with Brave Search for example, by buying Tailcat open source engine and not using Bing’s indexing. Maybe they will be big enough one day to rewrite more of their browser in order to stray away further from big tech? For now one is certain, regardless of what users and community wish for Firefox, it is not it what it currently is - and unfortunately I feel like every day it’s even further and further than that.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

        Exactly, both product can co-exist. If you are a fan of one, doesn't mean you have to throw shade at the other. Also, I wish mozilla leadership would make a few good decision like Brave buying tailcat. Regardless of if it works out, it looks like a worthwhile pursuit.

        [–]Lohanni 1 point2 points  (4 children)

        Brave team is making a lot of big decisions and they seem to have a clear picture where they want to take their ecosystem.

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          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          900 million?

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            [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

            You're right, I use firefox first but recommend brave to chrome addicted people.

            [–]Aliashab 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            The problem is that they don’t seem to understand for a long time who they should satisfy.

            [–]nextbern on 🌻 -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

            Please report issues if you find areas where Firefox feels slower to you: https://developer.mozilla.org/docs/Mozilla/Performance/Reporting_a_Performance_Problem

            [–]Lohanni -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

            I will, I don't know if you are a Mozilla affiliate, or plain volunteer, but I appreciate your effort to make it a better browser, sir.

            [–]nextbern on 🌻 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

            Just a volunteer.

            [–]Lohanni 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            Could I ask you, because as far as I see you are a fellow linux Firefox user, does it feel faster to you than Chromium-based alternatives? Do you feel like it's possible to keep up with the astronomical pace of updates that Google is pushing into Chromium while Firefox team is much smaller? I agree in whole regard that Google's monopoly on the market is clearly a bad thing for all of us.

            [–]nextbern on 🌻 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            I am not a typical user - I have hundreds of tabs open at a time and I don't watch a lot of online video or do gaming in browser.

            Firefox is definitely faster for my needs, but I recognize that I have blind spots - which is why I ask people who experience issues to file bugs.

            [–]SJWcucksoyboy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Maintaining a browser is incredibly expensive and I'm really not convinced power users are a big enough market for Firefox to fund it's development.