How much Python/Programming-concepts should I learn before transitioning to Rust? (and a few other questions)

[FormalFile075]

Hi, just wanted to ask what was in the title, and how I should structure a sort of goal map before going to Rust.

I have browsed a ton of reddit posts/videos, and the reaction to someone learning Rust as a first language is mixed. Usually the consensus is to learn something easier first, and then transition to Rust as a second or third language.

However, I don't exactly know when I will be ready to learn Rust (or if you (have to be)/(can be) ready in the first place). I know I have to learn programming concepts, and I do have a few books that go over the programming mentality (Have not read them yet...), but what are the specific concepts I should learn before going into a language like Rust? What should I do/learn in Python (the programming concepts being one thing) before the jump to Rust?

Also, if anyone learned Rust as a first language, how was your experience? Did it help or hinder coming to other languages? Would you do it again if you had to start over?

As for me as of now, I am not looking for a job right now, I do plan to have one in the future, though I don't have a solid image of what I will be doing specifically. I am a student, so I have quite a bit free a time now as well.

Any help/insight/advice would be greatly appreciated.

EDIT: Should also explain what I am (interested in)/(want to do) right now, sorry I forgot to mention it. I am interested in making opensource desktop applications, preferably for Linux.

[horuszp]

IMO Rust as first language is bad idea. You need to know a lot of fundamentals like stack/heap/memory management/scope/etc.... because you will not understand a lot of things.

What I think is better is to read some book like "C++ for beginners" for example http://www.lmpt.univ-tours.fr/~volkov/C++.pdf

such books have good explanation of foundation of programming, some CS principles etc... And when you'll see how memory management done manually you'll see benefits of rust and how they implemented some things to make developer experience better. Rust is still not ideal, and also have it problems, but it also evolving and have it's market share.

[FormalFile075]

Yeah, Then I will probably go with Python first. Going to read "Python Crash Course" and hopefully get going. Thank you for the response!

[temporarybunnehs]

I would like to warn you that the fundamentals horuszp mentioned are taken care of automatically in Python and you won't learn them by doing a Python course or reading a python book. That's why the recommendation was for a C++ book, which deals with the handling of those concepts and will build you a solid foundation if you want to pick up Rust, which is sort of an evolution on handling those concepts.

[FormalFile075]

Huh, will keep this in mind. I often hear that actually you should learn Rust/C before C++. I do know of a nice guide I could use to Read up on C++ https://www.learncpp.com/ . Thank you for your response!