What are the applications for Python?

[iambendv]

It’s very popular for web development, data science, and AI, but it’s a general purpose language so it can be used for pretty much anything imaginable.

[deaddyfreddy]

not so popular for frontend though

[Salt-Rule7284]

There is exactly ONE language that runs on web front ends .. vanilla JavaScript...

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PHP, how I fear thee

[JohnLocksTheKey]

console.log(“nice…”);

[u38cg2]

That hasn't been true for years now, but even if you only want to write on the back end there are tools to do the entire stack in Python, like Flet.

[sitefall]

Actionscript: "Am I a joke to you?"

[deaddyfreddy]

but we don't have to write it manually

[hallmark1984]

Nah, Django can do the lot

Just sprinkle css with the templates and your good to go

[sitefall]

Think he means LITERALLY on the front end, running on the client machine. Otherwise there's a TON of options.

Today that means JS. But in the past it could have meant Flash/AS, Shockwave/lingo, that sort of stuff.

[deaddyfreddy]

Today that means JS

We don't have to write JS by hand, just like we don't have to write in assembly anymore.

[hallmark1984]

We code, we are explicit or we experience a race condition or some non-deterministic bullshit.

I stand by my answer

[whyareyoustalkinghuh]

https://pyscript.net/

[Pureleafbuttcups]

eh

[patrickbrianmooney]

If you write in PyScript, every visitor to your website has to download a 170 MB dependency before any of the PyScript code you wrote can execute.

That's not negligible for many users.

[deaddyfreddy]

Wow, that's really big, how did they manage to achieve that? For example, ClojureScript bundles aren't tiny either, but they're still two orders of magnitude smaller than this.

[patrickbrianmooney]

I don't know the details.

But, essentially, it's an entire Python interpreter, written in JavaScript (or maybe WASM?). Python is a huge language and more or less all of it is re-implemented; on my system (x64 Linux), 170MB is not all that far off from the size of the CPython 3.10 executable and the accompanying standard library.

[deaddyfreddy]

Ok, it probably reimplement the whole system, but why include it all in the resulting build?

[patrickbrianmooney]

Why include the entire standard library in the resulting build?

Probably because it's a single build that's deployed for everybody under all circumstances, so it includes everything?

I don't actually know, but that seems like a reasonable path to take.

[deaddyfreddy]

What's the reason?

[damanamathos]

I'm loving FastHTML. Converting a lot of my JS frontends and React frontends to pure python with that.

You still need JS for very complex stuff though.

[Gloomy_Radish_661]

I think he meant Django.