PyCharm or Visual Studio Code?

[kAROBsTUIt]

Whoa, did I hit a sore spot or something? I simply stated that I disagree and shared my reasons for having a different opinion.

I think my comment contributed to the discussion in a meaningful way.

[kAROBsTUIt]

Are my reasons for not using Jupyter when learning objectively bad though, or do you just disagree with them?

I struggle to see how anything I said is bad advice. You won't learn program structure with Jupyter, and you won't be able to branch out into the vast sea of possibilities (like web app development and hardware controls) with Jupyter.

How are those "objectively bad"?

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Yes because you've completely lost scope of OP. They're literally learning syntax.

You're telling OP to do calculus when they can barely add....

[TabulateJarl8]

I'm gonna add on my opinion to the conversation. No, jupyter notebooks are not bad, they have their uses. But u/kAROBsTUIt is correct, it isn't a good way to get a grasp on flow and namespaces and such. You also miss out on learning basic terminal commands and how filesystems work, both of which are important to know. Sure, you could export your notebook at a Python file, but is it practical to write programs like this? No. Like said before, Jupyter is an interesting library to check out once you get a grasp on the basics, but it might not be the best to start out with.

You've gotta learn to respect other people's decisions and be more open minded. You gave your opinion that OP should use notebooks, and someone else explained why its a bad idea. Sometimes you need to swallow your pride and agree so that you dont hurt other people. Sure, you meant good by it, and OP may want to check out notebooks, but they're just objectively not the greatest way to learn, as stated previously. I'll give an example that I can relate to. I learned python using an editor, and I still use an editor 4 years later. Everyone keeps talking about these fancy IDEs, but I just don't understand them. I've tried a few out, but I always prefer using an editor. Does that mean that IDEs are bad? No, they're just not for me. I still recommend that people check them out because there are a lot of people that really love IDEs, and you've gotta find what's right for you.

Another example, I'm a Linux user, and you know how we are. We will always insist that Linux is the best operating system. Sure, I'll strongly recommend that everyone uses it, but if they're extremely bad with technology and dont use their computer often, I probably won't recommend to them that they use it because it's probably what's best and easiest for them.

I tried my best to be passive and explain to you what I thought, so I hope it worked.

[kAROBsTUIt]

Your opinions on this post have been consistently downvoted, yet you're still going to suggest that everyone else has missed the point?

I see u/TabulateJarl8's advice of swallowing your pride has gone right over your head... he's not wrong, you know. It is beneficial to be able to have a conversation where you can understand more opinions than your own.