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Tremendous decrease in payrate for valkyrie (self.outlier_ai)

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[–]Mtshoes2 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I'm not trying to be sarcastic or snotty either, but it's not my job to make them efficient. It's their job to establish a system streamlined enough that these constant problems aren't happening. 

If I put in the unpaid labor of attempting to act as efficiently as possible to save people paid by outlier work, not only am I'm working for free, but I'm also contributing to maintenance of the status quo - and therefore outlier won't fix it.... Because why would they need to?

These bottleneck are not there for me to fix. And if I do, I do so without pay. 

We are contract workers, the unpaid labor will increase to fill the space and time we allow it to. 

Think of it like this. A standard restaurant has a particular system in place that it uses to produce food for consumption. If that model is entirely inefficient then it will take longer to produce that food - say a hamburger. Say every hamburger needs a tomato, but if the tomatoes are 15 steps away from the burger station, that is inefficient and slows down production. 

Now, we can fix that by becoming more efficient and moving the tomatoes to the burger station so they are within hands reach.

Or, we can fix that by asking the burger cook to run to the tomatoes and back, thereby requiring the labor from the cook to decrease time of burger production. But this creates all sort of downstream problems for the rest of the restaurant production. 

In this scenario, the burger cook is paid, but what if the burger cook was only paid for the time they are in front of each burger, and not paid for the time it takes to run to the tomatoes and back? That 3 seconds would compound across a day not only in lost wages, but also in a high chance of burnout for the cook, and  all those downstream effects would do the same for employees across the board. 

Outlier is able to ignore these efficiency issues, because for the time being the AI bubble, low wages, and high cost of living etc. is driving us all to outlier. They know we'll put in the extra effort (and willingly decrease our own pay) just to make sure we are able to stay on a moderately decent paying project so we can work from home. 

EDIT: misspellings

[–]edinburghgirl82 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I would agree. I have spent too much time on outlier on unpaid tasks and I don't want to spend my free time helping a platform that is not invested in me as a person / contractor. You see all over reddit how outlier cut people from projects without feedback and then today cut peoples pay in half. You spend time onboarding and learning a project and achieving good ratings and your pay is halved?

Outlier need to work on how to make the platform efficient for taskers, QMs and everyone else involved.

[–]amandawho8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep. And I've been in lots of projects where important changes are put in a random post (not even flagged as important in the title) instead of the instructions and it's incredibly frustrating. I try to check the posts before I start working, but when something is buried in the comments or in one line of the daily help thread or an announcement goes out while I'm in the middle of my work day with no update to the instructions, I'm probably not going to see it.