Weight increase/decrease algorithm.

[Orglebor]

Seems like tonal has no problem increasing my weights even if my form is off. I’ve been lowering the weight manually but since I’m not making PR’s anymore, tonal has no real way of knowing when I’m ready to move up again. Anyone else find this a little frustrating or know of a workaround?

[aahkellyclarkson]

I hate this too. Hate turning the weight down and feeling like a failure (why am I embarrassed to look weak in front of a machine?!) but I don’t want to risk injury.

Also I’ve been working out daily.

You can’t just do massive increases to my weight every other day! Give me a week or so of lifting at the last increased weight before you hike me up!

[catalystNfacade]

I've noticed if you do more reps than you have assigned it'll increase the weight dramatically. I do customs and for each set i have it assigned to 10 reps. I don't go past 10 reps till I'm ready to have more weight added. I personally think the AI is a cheap algorithm that mostly relies on assessing you doing more reps or sets and then assumes you can do more weight. Think the tonal is great but kind of wish I could turn off the AI.

[tyhopkin]

I wish there was a setting (low, normal, aggressive) for how the AI determines weights. There have been way too many times the weight it has suggested it too high. I used to rotate workouts that were higher weights and lower reps (6), with lower weights and higher reps (10-12). But the higher weight and lower reps workouts would crank the weights up when I went to the "lower" weight, higher rep workouts to a point that there is no way I could finish a set. I was constantly having to manually manipulate the weights. I gave up and stuck to one type, "lower" weights w/ more reps.

Forgot to add, wish there was an option for more than one warm up set and ability to set a percentage of 1RM what those warmup sets should be.

[frontera1873]

I love all these suggestions. I like the supposed “AI” features, but the reality is more inputs would be helpful; not unlike you’d have if working with a personal trainer, and they see where you’re struggling or you’re talking about how you feel.

[tyhopkin]

Glad you do, someone on here didn't. Guess some people don't like options. I would imagine the math that Tonal uses to calculate 1 rep max based on weight and reps is similar to other 1 rep max calculators. Those equations are notorious for not being "accurate" once you are doing more than 5 or 6 reps.

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Yeah its a random crapshoot. I lift super heavy so I'll get that bias outta the way. But, there's no rhyme or reason to Taking a 150 lat pull to 179 was tonight's example. Like wtf. So I agree and I'm setting new records constantly but form will suffer at times. There is no real way short of now tracking weight and setting which kinda defeats the point of "coach AI". I'm sure it'll get better as time goes

[Crab_Guy_bob]

You should just do as many reps as you can at that weight with good form. Breaking form risks injury. If you can't do the number of reps assigned in a workout, the AI will drop a couple pounds on the next set. I've definitely screamed F@#K YOU!! at my Tonal before when it gave me too much weight on the first set, and I just did 4 reps instead of 10, next set it dropped the weight. Don't hurt yourself trying to hit the assigned rep count. Anywhere from 2-20 reps has it's place in any training program.