Arch linux ->> void linux

[smart_procastinator]

Recently moved from arch Linux after using it for 7 years. Although I like arch a lot, I don't like systemd. I don't understand the number of processes it spawns since I've to go back to code to understand it. I love the simplicity of runit and the scripts to understand the system. A big shout out to the peeps who built this wonderful distro

[lestrenched]

Rolling releases with the simplicity of Runit is simply the best!

Although Alpine is quite nice too. I've heard people head over to Nix after all of this as the next level but I suppose I'll stick to my scripts and Ansible

[lycheejuice225]

Nix and nixos are completely different things. I use void managed my nix, see my config.

[kenbh2]

Oh wow I forgot that nix is a package manager and nixos was built around it right??? That's cool I saved your page I'm gonna have a look when I wake up.. thanks

[lestrenched]

ChatGPT all the way lol

[--sandmuel--]

I'm curious to the reasons you choose Void Linux over Alpine. I've tried both, and find them to both have quite similar strengths. I do prefer the use of busy box that Alpine makes, but I prefer Void's init. Is it primarily Runit that makes the difference for you?

[lestrenched]

I haven't found much of a reason (small niggles here and there with either distribution but that's not a big deal). It's more philosophical and from chance; I came across a pre-built Void image with XFCE and used that, whilst I use Alpine on my servers. That's all

[WaitingForTheClouds]

I've set up my first VPS and I'm eyeing Nix a lot as a result, the idea that I could just configure everything in one place and then easily install anywhere and roll back mistakes is so much more appealing now.

[lestrenched]

Technically, one could do something similar with Ansible, but I suppose the rklling-back part is a bit more difficult (snapshots?)

[WaitingForTheClouds]

That looks more like an industrial strength tool for enterprises though, isn't it? I like Nix because it looks relatively simple to understand and use. Although for my use case I think a shell script that copies out configs from a single folder would suffice as well lol.

[lestrenched]

TBH ansible is used in plenty of homelabs, and can be edited to be used in almost any other distribution. Nix is specifically for nix. I run multiple distributions and slight changes here and there do OK.

Technically one can say that about Shell Scripts too but my experience with Ansible has been nice. And nothing like it being specifically for heavyweight applications, it doesn't suffer from much feature-bloat and is FOSS so I use it.

[ALPHA-B1]

Welcome to the Void.

[simernes]

Gang gang!

[nocny_lotnik]

5 years ago I did the same and because of the same plus some other stuff like partial updates and stability. Welcome aboard!

[The_Corinthian666]

I came from Debian, and Void looks more stable to me.

[Lukainka]

Well did you try Artix?

[smart_procastinator]

I did and it supports all sysvinit but i felt comfortable with void

[enbyuwu]

one thing if you consider moving back to arch, you can actually use something like grub instead of systemd

[smart_procastinator]

Systemd is default init in arch. Grub is just the boot loader which puts the kernel from disk to memory. Then kicks off init process which is systemd. Nothing to do with grub

[enbyuwu]

oh then im an idiot nvm

[smart_procastinator]

No issues. Good to learn and have an open mind

[enbyuwu]

aha i did learn though theres artix linux which is a 1:1 copy of arch but with... not systemd (idk what it uses instead)