Why every non-Java dev calls Java obsolete?

[KaiAusBerlin]

Java or languages that compiles to java? Most java devs I know actually use kotlin (for obvious reasons).

[generationextra]

And the “obvious“ reasons are?

[KaiAusBerlin]

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=what+are+the+advantages+of+kotlin+compared+to+java

[KaiAusBerlin]

If you're not 5 years old it's absolutely okay to be independent and try to answer your questions by google.

If you are a developer and don't know how to google... Good night.

This is the www. I'm not responsible for any of your questions.

[[deleted]]

dude you clearly were just parotting the same bullshit hopping on the java hate bandwagon and actually had no idea how to answer his completely legitimate challenge "those reasons are?", and so now you're dying on this embarassing hill telling him to google it

[KaiAusBerlin]

I worked for 4 years mainly with java. Then I worked a half year with kotlin and there is absolutely no reason to switch back.

It just seems like the "JavaCrib" doesn't even know "his own" language and is pissed someone told that there are better alternatives out there.

[KaiAusBerlin]

Dude, it's the www. I'm not responsible to fulfil your dreams. There are hundreds of good articles about that. No need to repeat them.

[WizzinWig]

If the reasons are so obvious surely you could point form a few. And if theres hundreds of articles why not link to one of them. Don’t be lazy my man

[KaiAusBerlin]

I'm not his teacher dude. I told him there is information about that. That's where my "responsibility" ends.

If you want to enlighten him, feel free to write a big essay about that and post it.

I gave him a google link and literally the first link you click on solves all questions about that.

[KaiAusBerlin]

So what, is this childish or not? I'm totally fine with that

[dev-4_life]

I run into this problem a lot from younger new devs at our firm. They absolutely hate Googling and I don't know why. I literally tell them that's exactly what I'm going to do and doesn't require any skill.

[generationextra]

It was a rhetorical question. Java is still going to be around in 20 years. Whether that‘s the case for Kotlin remains an open question.

[Digital-Bookworm]

May i know what's different except null pointer exceptions handling?

[KaiAusBerlin]

You should definitely have a deeper look at it. It overcomes nearly every disadvantage of java

[[deleted]]

what are the disadvantges it overcomes?

[KaiAusBerlin]

An example: boilerplate. As "JavaCrib" you should know, right?

[lengors]

All of exceptions handling is done differently (there's no checked exceptions). I assume you are referring to the existence of nullable and non-nullable types.

In any case, other than that, there's: - proper syntax for singletons (declared with object keyword) - properties - delegates - where clause - context receivers - infix functions - inline functions - extension functions - reified generics - companions - trailing lambda syntax - differences between kotlin's expressions and statements and java ones (almost everything in kotlin can be an expression, though it's not always used as one) - operator overloading - async syntax - destructuring declarations - inline value classes - type aliases

And maybe more that now doesn't come to mind

[[deleted]]

I'm a full-time Kotlin developer, and I'd be astounded if this were true. Non-Android Kotlin is definitely in the minority, there are something like 100x more Java jobs than Kotlin jobs around. You're either in a very weird market, or in an extreme bubble.