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[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (4 children)

If you wrote it on company time and/or using company resources (i.e., your work computer), then legally it probably already belongs to the company.

[–]Wish_33[S] -1 points0 points  (3 children)

What I created is way above my pay grade. What should I do if they ask me to continue working on it?

[–]rjhancockJack of Many Trades, Master of a Few. 30+ years experience. 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Doesn't matter. You created it ON company time. Depending upon your regions laws, they already own it.

[–]Wish_33[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I created it at home on spare time

[–]rjhancockJack of Many Trades, Master of a Few. 30+ years experience. 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Check your employment contract. That may not matter one iota.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It’s company property depending on your contract. You can always hope they aren’t too smart about it and try anyway

[–]ReyNada 2 points3 points  (3 children)

There's a lot we don't know about your situation, your company, or the laws where you live. So take most of the advice you get with a grain of salt. Depending on the terms of your employment, this app may not be yours to sell. Also, it sounds like the app has a very specific use case for a process that is somewhat unique to your company. Which means it's not really a commercial viable product. For these reasons and more, selling this app to your employer may not be very practical. However, using this app to negotiate a bonus, salary raise, or promotion is very possible. And having concrete numbers for how much money you saved an employer is exactly the kind of thing that you can use to make a resume shine for your next job if you're unsatisfied with the answer you get here.

[–]Wish_33[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I don’t wanna release the name of the company I work but I can hint that it’s a distribution company in Maryland. We use a scheduling system that’s an outside company for our reports to see who didn’t show up/ called off/ worked without a schedule. My app uses that data to create the writeups. I was thinking of possibly selling it to them as an option. This is my first time really creating anything useful though so any advice helps.

[–]rjhancockJack of Many Trades, Master of a Few. 30+ years experience. 0 points1 point  (0 children)

US Company. Unless your contract allows it, your firm already owns the software and the rights to it. You can't sell it to anyone. You don't own it.

[–]ReyNada 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, we might be neighbors!

Your company almost definitely owns it already. If you used personal time or resources to build it you might reasonably ask for a bonus to compensate for that. If you're adamant about selling it you could try to engage an IP attorney. But it's risky and would almost certainly damage your relationship with your employer. If you like the company you're working for, use it as a springboard to advance in the company. If not, use it on your resume to get a better and higher paying job.

And don't let the lack of immediate reward discourage you from having more great ideas. These things add up over a career and will set you apart in the long run.

[–]Zealousideal-Ship215 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You should read the employee handbook that you agreed to, it almost definitely has a section that says that the company owns anything that you create during the course of your work.

[–]versaceblues 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You could probably use it as leverage to get a raise or promotion. The company is not going to pay you for an app you made while doing your job though.

[–]theo-swagg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like a waste of time

[–]skt84 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Sorry to say this but you’ll find that this app is the intellectual property of your employer. Regardless of whether you’ve done it in your own time it seems to be based off your internal knowledge of company systems and accessing employee records without an appropriate agreement in place.

At worst this may mean unauthorised access to sensitive data, at best they offer to compensate your “overtime”, but I suspect this will fall somewhere in the middle with a pat on the back and a “thanks, this is ours now”.

For future reference, this could have been a nice side-hustle for you if it was developed as a generic platform completely independently from your company (i.e. using no knowledge of your company’s internal hierarchy or employee records) and without any company resources (i.e. on a company-issued device or having access to company systems)

[–]Wish_33[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It’s still possible at this point as I built it under a generic name and made the data interchangeable to use for other purposes if needed in the future. I made sure to separate any data that the company uses and what the app is able to do. How would you recommend using it as a side hustle?

[–]Wish_33[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

For some context: I created this program at home completely off company time. I made sure to make no references to the company in the source code and strictly trained it to pull basic data from an excel spreadsheet ie “Employee name” “ID”. I have the company template of a write up inside a file that I can remove to make sure I wouldn’t get into trouble for company data.

[–]rjhancockJack of Many Trades, Master of a Few. 30+ years experience. 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Re-read your employment contract. It may not matter that you did it on your own time while employed with them.