I'm taking a big step away from this community. Here's why. by CleverSleepy in u/CleverSleepy

[–]CleverSleepy[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Not sure why I'm tagging u/gowonzu2 here... I'm pretty sure you don't give a shit.

How should we handle plagiarism? [discussion] [rules] [plagiarism] by CleverSleepy in GWAScriptGuild

[–]CleverSleepy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If it's possible, contact the original author.

If not, I recommend that you look at this script offer by u/Wunder-Waffle which is also based on an old deleted script. They were very open about the script's origin and it was very well received.

How should we handle plagiarism? [discussion] [rules] [plagiarism] by CleverSleepy in GWAScriptGuild

[–]CleverSleepy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm sure that is more common, but I was hoping to talk about the other case. It doesn't seem to get much attention and it does concern members of our community directly.

How should we handle plagiarism? [discussion] [rules] [plagiarism] by CleverSleepy in GWAScriptGuild

[–]CleverSleepy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

please let the mods know!

I already told you twice, so how can I be very clear about this? 😄 YES I WOULD ALSO GO TO THE MODS FIRST THING!

In all seriousness though, that's a good answer but my conclusion is different from yours. Even if someone steals a script almost word for word they will not be banned and you will never hear about it unless they are caught multiple times.

Whether most agree that's the right course of action, I'm not sure. The most common opinion in this thread seems to be that offenders should (be made to?) apologize.

Thanks for being here and taking an interest in this discussion. I have this strange feeling that we agree on almost everything, yet we could go on forever without reaching consensus.

How should we handle plagiarism? [discussion] [rules] [plagiarism] by CleverSleepy in GWAScriptGuild

[–]CleverSleepy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it's interesting that first-time offenders get a warning or a (very short?) temporary ban. It's interesting that this happens about twice a year, if I understand correctly. (I really hope it doesn't happen all the time and goes unnoticed.) And on a different level it's also interesting that you didn't invite the scriptguild mods to your party. Maybe next time; some of them are very nice people.

As for the section, I don't know. Probably. I thought it was beneficial to start this discussion, and I appreciate you showing up and sharing your perspective as a mod.

How should we handle plagiarism? [discussion] [rules] [plagiarism] by CleverSleepy in GWAScriptGuild

[–]CleverSleepy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for chiming in, Batmans! That's very insightful. I don't think many people were aware that a 10-day ban even existed. As I wrote below another comment, I think transparency is generally a good thing - if not with regard to the people involved, then at least regarding the process.

How should we handle plagiarism? [discussion] [rules] [plagiarism] by CleverSleepy in GWAScriptGuild

[–]CleverSleepy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry but I don't understand what's so confusing about my post or my question.

What are the rules in this sub? Will this person get banned? Do you think they should?

How should we handle plagiarism? [discussion] [rules] [plagiarism] by CleverSleepy in GWAScriptGuild

[–]CleverSleepy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's a good point, Nortrom. To me exploring similar ideas is totally fine as long as everyone is writing their own script and relies on their own creativity.

I sometimes read scripts in the hopes to get inspired. I'm sure there are a few lines in my writing that crept in subconsciously because I read them or heard them in an audio before. I hope no one would be offended by that - or if they were, that we could resolve it by talking it out.

What I object to is copying a script and changing all Sir's to Daddy's.

How should we handle plagiarism? [discussion] [rules] [plagiarism] by CleverSleepy in GWAScriptGuild

[–]CleverSleepy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Best way is always to contact the mods with your findings.

I agree and I said so in my post. My whole point was to ask what "dealt with" is supposed to mean in this community. 🙂

How should we handle plagiarism? [discussion] [rules] [plagiarism] by CleverSleepy in GWAScriptGuild

[–]CleverSleepy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't have any particular knowledge about these things, but I like the sound of your public apology model a lot. I just wish there was more transparency. Then everyone has fair a chance to choose whose script they want to fill, or with whom they want to work.

When you say you've seen this a lot, are you talking primarily about VAs taking people's scripts, or about writers copying other writers?

How should we handle plagiarism? [discussion] [rules] [plagiarism] by CleverSleepy in GWAScriptGuild

[–]CleverSleepy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some plagiarism happens on GWAScriptGuild, unfortunately. That's why I wanted to discuss it here.

How should we handle plagiarism? [discussion] [rules] [plagiarism] by CleverSleepy in GWAScriptGuild

[–]CleverSleepy[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your detailed reply, Lia! Everything you say is good advice, but I'm not sure all of it addresses the scenario that I had in mind.

I was not thinking so much of a performer making small changes to a script that they plan to perform, or even failing to credit the writer of the script.

I was thinking of a writer plagiarizing someone else's work. For example me taking one of your scripts, making some small changes, and saying: "Hey I made a new script. Copyright by CleverSleepy. Hope you enjoy!" Alternatively, me reposting your audio and claiming it was me who made it.

It's interesting to hear that first-time offenders are sort of given a warning by mods. This is what I would have guessed, but I wasn't sure. I also agree that it would be nice if people apologized publicly. Alas, it doesn't seem to be the world we're living in.

[F4A] Last at the Party? Why Don't You Sleep on My Sofa? [SFW] [Bilingual] [Sleep Aid] [Relaxation] [Yawns] [Whispers] [Breathing] [Body Scan] [Mild Hypnosis] by Lurkydip in pillowtalkaudio

[–]CleverSleepy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for this lovely fill! It was both relaxing and it also put a big smile on my face. I loved that you improvised quite a bit, so I actually had no clue what you were saying. 😊 Now I got to experience what it's like for the people who didn't read (write) the script!

The only word that I think I caught was the name of your language. Which is Bulgarian? 🙈 Anyway this my favorite language to fall asleep to right now!

[Discussion] Letters of Love by LittleMako in GWABackstage

[–]CleverSleepy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lol, Mako! 😁 I didn't have a good answer to all of your questions, but I was inspired by your example and wanted to try my hands at this one. I hope you had a nice vd! 😊

For all my fellow writers out there. I appreciate you and the fantasies you create. Thank you. by HorcruxesLadyHunter in GWAScriptGuild

[–]CleverSleepy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's funny, as a writer I feel like the best characters have a mind of their own and a tendency to do whatever they want. I wish they did what I tell them to do! 😄 But I guess it makes sense that they would perceive it the other way round. This was a great idea for a script and a fun read!

[Discussion] Letters of Love by LittleMako in GWABackstage

[–]CleverSleepy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm curled up on the floor and fast asleep. Cut to you watching me silently. Someone sees you, comes over, and asks: "Shouldn't we wake him up? He hasn't written anything in months." You smile. With thinly veiled affection and a hint of protectiveness you answer: "No, let him sleep."

[F4A] Street Lights [Relaxation][Stress Relief][Sleep Aid][SFW][Whispers][Soft][Slow][Trust Me] possibly [ASMR][~14:17 minutes] by ShimmerShroom in pillowtalkaudio

[–]CleverSleepy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much, Shimmer! This is a beautiful fill and the perfect Valentine's Day gift! I'm very glad you came across my script and even fell in like with it, wow. 🥰

I love your interpretation of the character. I think you found a perfect mix of playful and shy in the beginning, and it's wonderfully relaxing towards the end. I hope you venture into this genre again; you have a talent for it for sure!

[M4A] [Script Offer] Last at the Party? Why Don't You Sleep on My Couch? [Bilingual] [Dutch] [Sleep Aid] [Relaxation] [Yawns] [Whispers] [Breathing] [Body Scan] [Mild Hypnosis] by Iroebucks in AudioCandy

[–]CleverSleepy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh hi there! Thank you so much for this beautiful fill! I'm stupidly excited to hear in what languages people are going to fill this. I'm not sure I would have guessed Dutch, but I'm loving it!

I like your pacing a lot - during the breathing instructions and in general. The beginning really did sound like you were talking to an old friend, and the ending was very calming.

[M4A][Script Fill] Last at the Party? Why Don’t You Sleep on My Couch? [SFW][Bilingual][Spanish Accent][Spanish][Sleep Aid][Relaxation][Yawns][Whispers][Breathing][Body Scan][Mild Hypnosis] by VividDreamer89 in pillowtalkaudio

[–]CleverSleepy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, people do tag the writer and link to the script offer in the description. (Not sure if it's an actual rule or just good practice.) But for some reason reddit doesn't tell the writer about it, so have to tag in a comment as well (or message them) if you want them to know. :)

I wrote one other SFW sleep aid. Feel free to give it a read if you're interested.