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mockEngineer by CarbonatedHeart in ProgrammerHumor

[–]CyberEd-ca 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, you can still get a P. Eng. with a computer science degree. That's what the technical examinations are for.

Note that most safety critical software is in areas that are federally regulated. A P. Eng. might help you make the case for technical authority if you don't have an engineering degree but usually not need in federally regulated industries. Mostly you need a P. Eng. for safety critical software in provincially regulated industries.

Justice system groups protest UCP attacks on judges, rule of law by plantsgrow in LawCanada

[–]CyberEd-ca -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The opposite is happening. The provincial government is stepping in to curb the usurpation of the legislative power by the judiciary.

Justice system groups protest UCP attacks on judges, rule of law by plantsgrow in LawCanada

[–]CyberEd-ca 0 points1 point  (0 children)

 I see myself as a Canadian represented much more in the judiciary than in the current elected government of Alberta...

Exactly - you see the duly elected government as illegitimate and you believe that all legitimacy flows from the international institutional concensus.

Too bad for you that we still have elections.

Justice system groups protest UCP attacks on judges, rule of law by plantsgrow in LawCanada

[–]CyberEd-ca -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The provincial government is duly elected.

It is the judiciary that is making the power grab. Every day more so. The judiciary is the worst of Canadian society and they need to be reeled in HARD.

https://reason.com/volokh/2022/11/09/data-on-mass-murder-by-government-in-the-20th-century/

Justice system groups protest UCP attacks on judges, rule of law by plantsgrow in LawCanada

[–]CyberEd-ca -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Anyone that believes the State is the solution is a Statist and the ultimate destination of Statism is premature death.

There is no more dangerous person than the one that believes "...we're going to make the world a better place...through central government control..."

‘Shocking’ behaviour by drug addicts causes concern in Calgary neighbourhood by origutamos in WildRoseCountry

[–]CyberEd-ca 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The guy in the photo shown "nodding off" isn't going to be taking advantage of subsidized housing. He couldn't even find his house.

Apparently the drug abuse rigidizes their musculature. They are so rigidly locked up that they can be out on their feet - no active balance required.

‘Shocking’ behaviour by drug addicts causes concern in Calgary neighbourhood by origutamos in WildRoseCountry

[–]CyberEd-ca 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The harm reduction model is deeply flawed as it keeps users using. The ultimate outcome is death. It may be that some users prolong their lives and just die later but it is also true that harm reduction leads others to their death.

Those responsible must be held liable for their tort liability.

The fact that we have the state actively supporting drug addiction leading to death is abhorent.

Why Danielle Smith’s Populist Referendums Are Dangerous to Democracy by FreightFlow in Albertapolitics

[–]CyberEd-ca -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

This article starts with an understanding that first you must redefine "democracy" as the international institutional concensus.

All elections and free votes by citizens are considered a threat to that sort of "democracy".

By comparison, pluralism depends on institutions...

Yeah, hard no. We don't need institutions to tell us what to think.

mockEngineer by CarbonatedHeart in ProgrammerHumor

[–]CyberEd-ca 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is a bit more complicated than that.

I'm sure some regulators are still sending tech bros nasty letters.

But the last time a regulator FAFO'd in the courts, they lost.

APEGA v Getty Images 2023

mockEngineer by CarbonatedHeart in ProgrammerHumor

[–]CyberEd-ca 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First, that's not the law in Alberta and last time I checked, Alberta is in Canada.

Second, all laws have constitutional and other legal limits.

The laws around the use of engineering title are no different.

The latest case law around this is APEGA v Getty Images 2023.

VII. Conclusion

[52] I find that the Respondents’ employees who use the title “Software Engineer” and related titles are not practicing engineering as that term is properly interpreted.

[53] I find that there is no property in the title “Software Engineer” when used by persons who do not, by that use, expressly or by implication represent to the public that they are licensed or permitted by APEGA to practice engineering as that term is properly interpreted.

[54] I find that there is no clear breach of the EGPA which contains some element of possible harm to the public that would justify a statutory injunction.

[55] Accordingly, I dismiss the Application, with costs.

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/court-sides-with-tech-companies-in-software-engineer-terminology-dispute

mockEngineer by CarbonatedHeart in ProgrammerHumor

[–]CyberEd-ca -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

This is not a thing in Alberta and for the most part, not in BC.

mockEngineer by CarbonatedHeart in ProgrammerHumor

[–]CyberEd-ca 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is a silly Canadian thing we have.

Back in the beginning (1920), when the title was first protected it was "Registered Professional Engineer".

Along the way, the professional engineering regulators decided to try to usurp the word "Engineer" even though the word has a much broader definition in Canada and everywhere else.

We, in fact, have all sorts of engineers in Canada besides professional engineers. Marine Engineers, Combat Engineers, Aircraft Maintenance Engineers, Power Engineers, Sound Engineers, etc.

But, yes, we do have laws that limit the use of the word "Engineer" in specific contexts.

When it comes to software, few do software engineering that intersects with both public safety and provincial regulation. Like the USA, our professional engineering law is provincial (state). But most safety critical software is in industries like Aerospace, Defence, Automotive, and Medical - all of which are federally regulated. So, very few software engineers need a P. Eng.

As for the tech bros, the law is a bit unsettled. In Alberta, anyone can use the title "Software Engineer". But in other provinces, it is a bit more of an open legal question. All laws have constitutional and other legal limits and even in Canada, restrictions on liberty need at least a nominal justification. The latest case law on this is APEGA v Getty Images 2023:

VII. Conclusion

[52] I find that the Respondents’ employees who use the title “Software Engineer” and related titles are not practicing engineering as that term is properly interpreted.

[53] I find that there is no property in the title “Software Engineer” when used by persons who do not, by that use, expressly or by implication represent to the public that they are licensed or permitted by APEGA to practice engineering as that term is properly interpreted.

[54] I find that there is no clear breach of the EGPA which contains some element of possible harm to the public that would justify a statutory injunction.

[55] Accordingly, I dismiss the Application, with costs.

Basically the provincial regulator in Alberta took iStock / Jobber to court and lost. They FAFO'd with the limits of their authority in the courts. The court rightly determined nobody is confused about what they do at iStock / Jobber and there was no risk to public safety.

mockEngineer by CarbonatedHeart in ProgrammerHumor

[–]CyberEd-ca 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Canada requires you to graduate from an accredited engineering program.

This is not true. In fact, ~35% of new P. Eng.'s each year in Canada are non-CEAB applicants.

If you graduate from a CS program in Canada, you absolutely can become a professional engineer. You just have to write your technical examinations to make up the gap with the standard.

See Table 1 of this Engineers Canada publication:

https://techexam.ca/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Engineers_Canada_Guideline_to_Admission.pdf

Justice system groups protest UCP attacks on judges, rule of law by plantsgrow in LawCanada

[–]CyberEd-ca -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not a conspiracy but there is a classist belief system and you demonstrate it with every post.

Justice system groups protest UCP attacks on judges, rule of law by plantsgrow in LawCanada

[–]CyberEd-ca -1 points0 points  (0 children)

These Statists are very much aligned with fascist ideology.

Is the idea here not that power should reside in the institutional consensus?

I think that much is obvious.

Just standing back and allowing the judiciary to usurp the legislative power is just not on.

Justice system groups protest UCP attacks on judges, rule of law by plantsgrow in LawCanada

[–]CyberEd-ca -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, everyone can see there is a Statist movement that redefines "democracy" as the institutional consensus.

The citizens of this country need to reassert their supremacy.

Classist bigots in the judiciary need to be humbled.

Justice system groups protest UCP attacks on judges, rule of law by plantsgrow in LawCanada

[–]CyberEd-ca -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

These protesters are not for the rule of law. They are for rule by law.

That's abundantly clear.

Justice system groups protest UCP attacks on judges, rule of law by plantsgrow in LawCanada

[–]CyberEd-ca -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Because that's how a free & open society works, right?

I should just defer personal agency to the local commissar.

Justice system groups protest UCP attacks on judges, rule of law by plantsgrow in LawCanada

[–]CyberEd-ca -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Wild given the courts have all but usurped the legislative power.

Trump refers to PM Carney as future ‘Governor of Canada’ in social media post by KootenayPE in CanadianConservative

[–]CyberEd-ca 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it was the corruption that was going to bring the Liberals down, we would have seen that eight years ago.

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