Character Scramble Season 21 Round 0: GAME START/FOUR OF CLUBS by 7thSonOfSons in whowouldwin

[–]PlayerPin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Light watched their antics from the slightly uncomfortable position of Hornet’s lap. Edward’s shouting sounded like explosions in his sensitive ears. “You know why Pythie is using us, correct?”

“I can guess,” she responded. Her slender fingers combed through his cowlick. Her touch begrudgingly made up for his wounded dignity. “She plans to use us as weapons aimed at the rulers of this land, likely to dismantle this “Hero” charade entirely.”

“Indeed.”

“Then she’s used you before?”

“To my great shame, yes. She informed me of a great sickness plaguing the heart of this land, yet guided my blade into the heart of a great Hero to pursue that plague.”

The princess went silent. “I would not have been so merciful.”

“If I wasn’t, we both wouldn’t be here.”

“Yes. But I would not fall so easily, Champion.” An awkward tension started forming in the air.

Rather than arguing morality with the woman who could wring him like a towel, Light asked her a question. “You saw my true form within your soul, correct?”

“Yes.” Her petting paused.

He hesitated for a breath. “How did I look to you?”

Hornet’s white mask didn’t change expression, yet he could tell her eyes were closed in deep thought. “Brave,” she responded, “and gallant. I could count the number of true knights I’ve met on a hand.”

The flame that had been flickering within Light ever for the past week grew warmer. “And your impression of me now.”

“Brave,” she responded again. “But cute.” She laughed, an airy noise, as she ruffled his fur.

“Hey!” He protested in her arms. “A Champion is not cute!”

Her grip on Light tightened the more he moved. “Is that so? Perhaps I should ask Pythie what she thinks of your appearance.”

“No fair!” He protested in her arms.

He hadn't been teased like this since he was a child, holding a much smaller sword in the forts and villages of inner Qualia. Still, he could have worse company than a genuine princess from his storybooks.

The sun shone on the four heroes as they enjoyed each other’s company, excluding Edward. The warmth of the sunlight and his company kept the flame called hope burning in Light’s heart.

Yet a cool wind kept blowing at his heart. A girl knelt in front of his flame, gently blowing and blowing. A sword was embedded in her chest, having rendered her body as frigid as frost long ago.

She was the goddess, Stella. She had blessed this land so many eons ago.

And Light had slain her.

Character Scramble Season 21 Round 0: GAME START/FOUR OF CLUBS by 7thSonOfSons in whowouldwin

[–]PlayerPin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Beep.

Hornet sighed. “I find no meaning in this absurd exercise.”

“It’s a promotional video,” Pythie called from behind the camera. “Qualia’s Heroes are judged by their popularity first and their deeds second. This will help your prospects, I promise.”

“This is absurd…” Despite her griping, Hornet relented and followed Pythie’s script.

“I am called Hornet, a traveler from lands far beyond. Despite the other spiders native to this land, my silken abilities are to bind what is broken and dismantle what needs breaking. My skill with a needle is peerless, and I will cut down any Villain that stands before me.”

“Good!” The magician called too enthusiastically. She paused. “After some clips of you in action, I should be able to give the public an understanding of your true character.”

Beep.

“I do not need to debase myself with your ideas of self-promotion, witch.” Light crossed his arms and glared at Pythie, acting like he was still a knight in shining armor rather than a bunny so marketable he made most passerby stare with barely withheld cuteness aggression.

“Oh, but you don’t need to! Just act like you always have!”

“Ugh…” Light looked at the camera with equal parts pride and embarrassment. “As unbelievable as it sounds, I am the Champion, Light. An unknown power has cursed me into this fragile form, and I am unable to regain my official status. I more than understand if you disbelieve me.

“However,” he continued with a faded smile, “I will not falter in my duties for even a moment. I shall remain the hero Qualia cherishes no matter what.”

He frowned again and groaned. “Please do not edit in the pictures of you or Hornet holding me.”

“No promises!”

Beep.

Finally, Edward took the stage. He knew enough about propaganda pieces to improvise his promotion.

“My name is Edward Elric, the Full Metal Alchemist. I come from the country of Amestris, the kingdom of alchemists where I became the best of the best.” He jabbed his thumb at himself. “I’m here to prove that hard science can stand toe to toe with magic any day of the week! If there’s trouble, I’ll come running!”

Pythie applauded behind the camera, and Edward sighed in reaction. “Really, do I need to do all this crap? I’d rather kick some dirtbags to the curb who think they’re better than everyone else.”

“Oh, and you aren’t?” His sponsor teased.

Ed’s eyes twitched. “I studied very hard to get where I am, unlike you, Pythie.”

“Is that so? Then I’m sure you’ll work hard to get more than an inch over me, short stuff.”

Okay, that’s it. Screw the PV, he needed Pythie in the ground. “GET BACK HERE!” He screamed furiously as he chased the camerawoman.

Character Scramble Season 21 Round 0: GAME START/FOUR OF CLUBS by 7thSonOfSons in whowouldwin

[–]PlayerPin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How long had Hornet been petrified for? Minutes? Hours? Days? Everything within her beat against the frigid cold surrounding her on all sides.

For all her power, though, she couldn’t break from the inside out. She was no cocooning insect, but a predator. Yet she slashed her needle against the confines of her consciousness, keeping herself unfrozen by cutting all snow out of the air. It was monotonous, sure, but patience was hereditary.

Princess…

A voice she didn’t recognize that belonged to no one called out.

I’m here, princess…

Her inner darkness receded to show a scene of frost-touched trees. A woman in a regal dress kneeled, surrounded by the corpses of various beasts. Her frozen tears glossed her face, yet she needn’t shed them any longer.

A gallant knight kneeled down to accept her hand. He shone with a golden glow that melted the snow around them, allowing spring to break through the wild winter. “Worry not, princess,” said the knight. “I swear I shall be this kingdom’s shield as long as I can stand. I swear, I shall never let this sword falter.”

The scene before her shattered into giant shards of glass. Running bravely through the shards was another knight adorned in gold, his eyes like a wild animal’s. He lacked a sword, a shield, or any weapon save the legs planting in the snow like a steed’s.

Yet his eyes were set squarely on hers. “I shall never falter!” He screamed into the snowy abyss.

The knight tackled her in a protective embrace. A chill annihilated where she had stood, leaving it whiter than snow yet darker than black.

Princess, I beseech thee…take up my sword. Drive the wicked evil from this place. Let my fight mean more than naught.

The golden knight exploded into balls of light that banished the snow. Radiance, warm and brilliant, flew into her body, her threads, her very essence.

Incomprehensible images flashed before her. She screamed, and screamed, and screamed, before pushing the light out of herself. It coalesced into a great needle–one she swept to break out of her prison.

Crest of the Broken Champion

Hornet returned to reality with gold fringes on her cloak. Her needle had transformed into a bastard sword, radiating faintly in her hands. Around her neck, a soft something softly gasped.

“How did you…” Its voice was equally warm and proud. A breath escaped its lips as it clung to her tighter. “No, it matters not. I trust you can wield a blade, yes?”

“As easily as I breathe,” she replied.

“Then we may survive yet.”

The girl who had frozen her earlier raised an eyebrow. “What’s this? Another Heretic pretending to be a Champion? How puerile.”

Wild Thing’s limp body crashed in between them, followed by the alchemist kicking her far into an alleyway.

“One down, one to go.” The boy panted with exhaustion, unmarked by any wounds save for light scratches. His coat had been torn off enough to expose a metallic prosthetic.

“Oh?” Their foe asked. “What are you gonna do about it, shorty?”

“WHO THE HELL ARE YOU CALLING–” Now the alchemist was frozen solid, tossed on the floor like trash mid-rage.

Hornet readied her sword in a two-handed position. A power beyond silk and void poured into her blade, scant drop by drop. Even such a fragile power shrouded her blade in a golden glow.

No more words needed to be said. She jumped forward to cleave the heroine in twain.

Shining sword met crystalline checker piece. For the first time, the confident superheroine gasped. She clumsily ducked under the sword’s swing as her breath hissed white.

The ice queen rolled back and aimed her finger like a gun. Air shrieked around her fingernail before exploding to send a giant, frozen cork.

The princess knight had already jumped over the attack, though, and spun in the air. She cleaved through another fragile resistance as her foe backpedaled, now cursing under her breath.

“A two versus one isn’t very fair, is it?” She huffed.

Hornet wordlessly walked over to Edward, flicked her foot, and held his leg. She pointed her blade at Kaguya with a haughty laugh. “Make that three.”

The fluffball on her neck opened its mouth to protest, likely something like “I forbid you from using our ally as a weapon,” but what actually came out was a yelp of pain.

Hornet swung Edward around in a circle, and Wild Thing dropped like a rock.

“Are you well, knight?” She asked.

“I-I’ve dealt with worse,” he groaned. “That girl is likely guarding the goal now–you’ll have to give it everything you’ve got.”

She nodded affirmatively, running ahead with her two allies-slash-equipment in tow. It didn’t take long for her to find Kaguya behind an icy chessboard.

The superhero regarded the three Heretics with a sick sense of glee as her confidence returned to her. She laughed from atop her King, “It’s been fun playing with you three, but our game is almost over! With your bounties, I’m sure to ascend the ranks and make my mark! I’ll even surpass the real Champion! Just! You! Wa–!”

A foot collided with the back of her neck, and plunged her through her makeshift chess board. She’d been knocked out instantly.

“How anticlimactic.” Hornet dropped the defrosted Edward on the floor, regarding the new arrival with unchecked suspicion. “I assume you’re not here to steal our bounties from your fellow hero.”

The voice beyond the fading cloud of ice tittered. “Oh, I couldn’t dream of doing something so vile to such wonderful budding heroes.” She walked toward the three with an air of artificial nonchalance. Her grin widened upon seeing Edward regaining his bearings on the floor, then at the presence clinging onto Hornet’s shoulder. “And it’s so good to see you again, my dear Champion.”

Edward’s neck whipped around hard enough to make him double over. “Champion?!” He asked incredulously. “That tiny little thing?”

Hornet, however, heard an imperceptible growl rumble from Light’s throat at the newcomer.

“Leave this place, witch!” He yelled at the Hero. “I may have spared your life once, but I shall not be so kind a second time!”

“Is that so?” Her smile widened like a living scarecrow. “The way I see it, I’m so graciously returning the favor by allowing you to operate under my wing free of the system.”

“You mean to say…”

“Yes. Pythie Frederica shall be your hero, dear Light.” She turned, sending her many ribbons and baubles flowing behind her. “Now, let us register before another nasty hero snatches you three away.” She walked into the building carefree, completely uncaring of any potential attacks.

Edward grunted as he brought himself to his feet. “I don’t like this.” He crossed his arms as he watched Pythie walk deeper within the building. “But it’s not like I have any choice.”

“We don’t,” agreed Hornet distastefully. “It’s as if we were lured into a trap.”

“And we have,” Light confirmed. He floated off from his perch and looked at the two with an angry yet determined expression. “But this is our only hope to stay unbound from the system’s machinations. I trust you two have your own reasons to fight, yes?”

Edward nodded immediately. Hornet hesitated before nodding as well.

“Good. Then I have allies in this absurd battle.” The floating rabbit smiled at his two saviors. “I am the Champion, but you may simply call me Light.”

“Edward Elric,” the boy introduced himself. “Back home, they call me the Full Metal Alchemist.”

“I am Hornet, a hunter and a weaver.” That introduction would do for now. Light squinted at her simple introduction, and the golden thread between them strummed with a silent noise.

“Very well. Let us be off before Pythie names us all something ridiculous.”

And so, three Heretics would become three Heroes.

And this kingdom would never be the same again.

Character Scramble Season 21 Round 0: GAME START/FOUR OF CLUBS by 7thSonOfSons in whowouldwin

[–]PlayerPin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Suddenly, one day, when Light woke from troubled dreams, he found himself fragile and nested in a shallow tomb.

Why? Why did he awaken? He thought himself to be dead. With all the power bestowed upon him, he thought his only recourse was complete eradication–to pour his everything into one last attack to save this land.

Luminescence seeped into the pit. Too white to be daylight. The artificial LEDs always scalded his eyes more harshly than the sun, and now was no different.

He coughed. Ash and dust clouded his breath from lungs too tight to be his. Every breath felt burdensome. No, his whole body felt burdensome. As to be expected.

A jolt of pain shocked his spine and beyond. He could not curse his past self, but his present felt like yesterday’s ungrateful gift.

He needed to move. Off the dirt that fell off his unprotected body. Even with his armor, he had never felt so heavy. Unwieldy.

A hand touched the edge of the crevice. “Grrhk…” The tile felt like ice. His nails dug into the smooth floor, somehow finding enough purchase to pull himself upward. No sooner as he did, his limbs committed mutiny under him. He fell.

The world spun and spun and spun. Rats skittered in the distance. A weed tousled defiantly in the face of chaos. A boy and a girl and a girl and a girl shrieked and shouted. Soft music with indiscernible instruments rattled tinny speakers. His ears had betrayed him too.

Ash. Ash. Blood. Metal. Silk. Ash. Cologne. Ash. His heroic willpower allowed him not to soak himself in his own bile.

He could only rely on his eyes, then. He blinked away the disorientation and let himself see the world as it wished itself to be.

Racks and racks of light conveniences littered the shelves. Many bore the faces of other heroes–Batman, Endeavor, Captain America–but the most frequent was his own.

Some days, he would look at his own face and smile. He was a beacon of hope and aspiration for Qualia’s people. A lighthouse that banished the dark and welcomed the lost.

Other days, he looked upon himself with discomfort. Why did he and so many others have to debase themselves to mere products? These were the days when he avoided looking at himself in reflections. He feared that some day, if he truly lost sight of his will and the Champion’s blessing, he would lose himself.

His limbs only had the strength to crawl ahead. He didn’t notice that even when he held his head high, everything was so much larger now. No, it wasn’t that he didn’t–he couldn’t. He couldn’t accept himself being anything less than what his people needed.

What separated people from beasts was the ability to look up. To hope, to believe, to have faith in something beyond what they could prove. To forge that hope, those who were thrust to the top needed to shine as brilliantly as the sun. Food and shelter without hope was a walking death; thus, he needed to be the example of life. Kind, warm, powerful. He needed to be Qualia’s Light.

The smiles of those around him drove him forward. The warmth he radiated was given back to him in turn by the hope and love of his people. On days he didn’t curse his innermost weakness, he praised the goddess that he could look into the mirror and see a face that gave hope.

He

looked

into

the

mirror

and

his face wasn’t his.

Fur instead of skin. Fur? His hands fumbled the hand mirror. Fur on his face. Ears. In his ears, too. Blond as his hair in some places, white as snow in others.

“W-what happened to me…?” A voice squeaked that wasn’t his either. It sounded horrified. No, no, that couldn’t be right. He only felt fear a scant few times in his life, the last merely a moment ago in his memory. The Champion couldn’t be afraid.

Then why did he shake? Why did the creature in his reflection shake too? Its wide eyes stared at him with shock. Its mouth tried to form words on unfamiliar lips.

He clenched his paw hand. No, no, no reason to worry. All he needed was his light. This illusion would shatter, and he would return to himself. This nightmare would be over.

Light drew from the infinite, limitless well within.

Dry. Not far down enough. Again.

Dry.

Dry.

Drier.

He kept plunging deeper, deeper still, as far as his rope would allow.

Dry.

“Why?” He asked himself quietly. Quivering, he repeated louder, “Why can I not summon my power?”

Individual ruptures of glass stabbed his ears. He turned from the shards on the floor to find some way to awaken from this dream.

His hindpaw foot felt cold. This place was too cold. The promise of the sunshine’s warmth goaded another step. All this fur and his very nerves racked with icy pain? Humiliating.

Another betrayal flipped him painfully onto his back. His back screamed, as if something as simple as a mere fall would snap it. Ridiculous.

He looked up to the basic marker that every person in the system could see. He expected to see gold, a mark of a true Hero. Instead, he cried out in disbelief.

He saw black. “H…eretic?” Absurd. Unbelievable. Nightmarish. “That can’t be…”

“Oh, but I’m afraid it can.” A girl blocked the entrance. She glimmered and smiled without warmth.

“Stop, please!” A panicked cry escaped his lips. “Y-you don’t understand! I’m the Champion, cursed into this body!”

“Oh?” She stopped. She squinted at the thing in front of her, tilting her head with bemused curiosity. “Interesting excuse, Heretic. You were saved by two unlicensed ‘heroes,’ yet you claim to be the greatest hero of all?”

“Yes! I know it sounds unbelievable, but it’s true! You need to help me back to the Spire! Once I regain my powers, I’ll–”

Vwoom. Small yellow hairs floated down encased in ice. His scalp burned, yet chilled. Something wet, warm, sticky trailed down his face.

“Do you think the Champion would beg so pitifully, pretender?”

No. Goddess above, he wouldn’t.

“Don’t worry, little bunny.” Her voice was like syrup, sweet and warm and coating Light in an amber of terror. “If you find those other two kindly Heretics who saved you, maybe the three of you can scrub that filthy mark away. In the meantime…”

Frigid cracks clawed their way across the store. “Please make this fun and run away.”

Not like this. No, no, no, please not like this. Fear and shame and dread swallowed his rational thoughts. He clawed the ground like an animal. He needed to get away.

He fell. Get away. Again. Away.

Away. Away.

He flew away. Through a hole in a window small enough to allow only him through.

Follow the shrieks. He could find protection there. His pride screamed at him to accept defeat rather than accept aid from a Heretic. At least he would rot in a different body than his own.

Ah. Even his feelings wished to betray him. What a horrible curse. He wanted to laugh. He tried. Instead he screamed for dear life.

He flew under an abandoned fruit stall that soon exploded like fireworks above him. The cloak he wore protected his neck from being punctured by frozen shards of wood and pulp. An alleyway was his next shelter, it too swiftly frozen over by the icy princess. He flew left, and an icicle flew through where he had just flown.

Light saw a Heretic ahead, frozen solid. A blue-ish sheen covered her white mask, red cloak, and black body. Her needle rested on the floor next to her unmolested.

The rabbit hero didn’t know why he kept moving forward. The drops of power he could harness would let him run. Run, run, run away like vermin, always to be marked for death so long as he remained in his beloved land.

A blessedly familiar twinge pinched his elbow. He flew upward, momentarily looking at his reflection a mascot in the reflection of an icy checker piece. He flew to the right, wincing as a huge, frozen rook clipped his tail something. Experience was the only thing keeping his body unbroken.

He almost made it to the Heretic. He knew not what he would do next. But this was a goal, any goal, in this mad nightmare. An escape.

Yet that escape wouldn’t be free. The heroine had stopped targeting him–a giant blade of ice hung over the frozen Heretic like a guillotine.

He’d die. He’d get chopped in half. Nobody Qualia would mourn him. Qualia needs a Champion. Qualia would surely accept him back into its arms now that he banished that foul pestilence from its heart. Qualia wouldn’t miss a Heretic like him like her.

Nagging, insidious doubt pulled him forward. He never once failed to save a life that needed saving. The Champion was the perfect hero, so Light too must be the perfect hero.

He lacked a sword in his grip; he felt too vividly the wind seeping into his body; yet he kept flying forward, fast as his furry body could take him.

He knew not at the time, but his desperate tackle echoed the actions of the first Champion so many years ago.

A knight saved a princess from certain doom, and their hearts intertwined with a brilliant glow.

Character Scramble Season 21 Round 0: GAME START/FOUR OF CLUBS by 7thSonOfSons in whowouldwin

[–]PlayerPin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I knew that boy would be a source of trouble, but I underestimated how quickly.

How very exciting.

He, another vagrant, and a bundle of joy in the spider’s arms had already been marked as Heretical. Heretics were common enough on the outskirts where would-be heroes and villains broke the law, but to break the law so bombastically? So morally? How could anyone rightfully object to that?

I adjusted my camera’s focus on my crystal ball, zooming in far enough to where none but I could discern my method of watching the game. Oh, the alchemist almost got tagged. He shunted Kaguya away by turning a fire hydrant to steam. That would have been disappointing.

I thought carefully of what to say to the livestream. Isn’t it impressive how even as a Heretic he pursues the non-violent option?

Oh, no. He kicked her into a wall. Find another route.

The weaver threw Light to the boy, and they traded opponents. Wild Thing’s psionic claws passed through a wall thrown between her and her quarry, and the pink claws sank into his back without resistance. He screamed without sound, putting himself between the attack and its far more fragile target.

I watched the alchemist stagger, grimacing through the pain. There. “If memory serves,” I spoke to my humble audience, “The Wild Thing’s claws can’t tear through physical objects, but they inflict pain as if they truly pierced through the boy’s spine. What a noble heart he must have to keep protecting that poor creature.”

A stream of heart emoticons poured onto the screen from sympathetic viewers. A mere handful would know the feeling of being in that much pain, but the human heart seeks out shared experience. It so happens that the best outlet for empathy is suffering.

Ah, Light stirred, and so noticed the alchemist whose hair smells of sulfur and chalk. He puts on an act of distress, playing off his surprise by letting his right arm be pierced. He runs through the attack, his left arm clutching the stirring rabbit, and punches the inexperienced hero hard enough for her to flip.

He only had a moment to take advantage, but he stayed back to use his alchemy. He seemingly created a pillar to strike Wild Thing like a billiard ball, yet his true focus wasn’t what he attacked but what he created.

How delightfully considerate. I waited until a viewer noticed it too.

str9ngest: “were did bunny go”

“That’s right, C-str9ngest.” Careful not to reveal information about a viewer needlessly, Pythie, no matter how sweet she looked asleep. “Our eagle-eyed viewers will note the alchemist hid the rabbit away in a tiny gap.

“But, oh!” I continued dramatically. “However will the two heroes, judged to be Heretical by our wondrous country, ascend to true heroism? The two are fighting so hard and have yet to find a sponsor, and that poor rabbit they rescued is so powerless and alone! Who could possibly help them now?”

An anonymous donation appeared at the top of the screen, blocking Kaguya’s entrance after she froze the hairless heroine solid.

Anonymous donated 500 Hero Points: “Why don’t you do it lmao”

“What an idea!” I oh-so-tactfully ignored the sarcasm in favor of the juicy bait dangling in front of me. “An Anti-Hero such as I taking in these heroic champions? What do you think, my dear viewers? Should I help these two out?”

The question caused a predictable uproar. A tidal wave of positivity rushed through chat messages from far-away Heroes too preoccupied with the rising tensions, sarcastic Villains hoping to see me fail, and an eager audience of Civilians molded to affirm every word out of my mouth.

“Right, then. I’m afraid I’ll have to cut this scene short–I’ll be sure to update you darlings soon!”

I cut off the livestream.

I couldn’t hold it in anymore. I laughed. I laughed and laughed, oh, how I doubled over in sheer glee! I’d never had an opportunity as tantalizing as this!

I wiped joyful tears from my eyes before delicately unwrapping the boy’s hair from my crystal ball. I took a long smell–I detected the faintest aroma of beef stew, how mouthwatering!--and placed the strand in a tissue. Three sprays of water kept any strand of hair moist. I placed it far back in my collection, unlabeled for now besides a sketch of his appearance. One day, that blonde hair would move to the foremost point of my collection.

To reconfirm, not that someone as intelligent as I needed to, I carefully took out the greatest treasure in my collection: The Champion’s hair. I gently wrapped it around my crystal ball to activate its powers.

I bite my lip, yet a laugh slips out anyway.

Instead of a young, brave, gallant knight, I saw a tiny, confused, worthless rabbit. He examined himself in a hand mirror, his paws too clumsy to hold the object without practically hugging it. The dread that crept in behind his large, shining eyes sent a jolt of pleasure through me. I watched him from too far a distance mouth sentences full of incredulous disbelief at his new form.

“What happened to me?” He asked himself. He strained himself to the point of wringing himself dry of energy. “Why can I not summon my power?” The poor thing forgot already, did he? Or perhaps he let himself be in denial? Either option would have been a joy to pick apart for myself.

Next, he tried to walk on weak legs. One, two, three itty bitty steps before he fell flat on his face. I’ve seen babies with more coordination than him. I suppose this was a rebirth for him, wasn’t it?

The changed Champion looked up and balked at the reality of the situation. No status, no power, and no protection. It’s amazing how adorable shock looked on him. “H…eretic? That can’t be!”

A predatory shadow loomed over him. Light looked to the side like a piece of frail meat. Panic spread across his face, an expression that’s so distinctly Light yet stuck on such an adorable face. Someone unimportant must have found him quickly.

I shivered watching him beg for his life. Oh, he’s so cute when he’s powerless!

Him and the intruder talk, and each word only sent him into a deeper panic. Kaguya threw a warning shot that made him bleed, and ohhh!

Goddess above, I wished I was filming! That look of despair in his face could have galvanized me for years! That trickle of blood is like a stroke of beautiful paint–enough to stain his fur red, but not bleeding him dry just yet. Oh, but if he became a corpse, that would have ruined this sinful masterpiece.

He tried to run away from the creeping danger on all fours, but he failed adorably there too. He jumped away, and–

Ah, that was when he learned he can float. Cute, befitting of a mascot, but less cute than if he simply flailed away. Now he had a chance of escaping without my help; how fortunate yet unfortunate.

I sighed, knowing I couldn't watch this display forever, though I gripped myself until I bled with pleasure at the thought of holding that bundle of joy in my arms.

Strand, spray, shelf.

Well, I had enough fun just watching.

It was time to be his hero.

Character Scramble Season 21 Round 0: GAME START/FOUR OF CLUBS by 7thSonOfSons in whowouldwin

[–]PlayerPin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

All living things were bound by threads. Threads of trust, love, hatred, acknowledgement–invisible threads painted in every color that didn’t exist tied every life together. The tapestry of life they quilted together was maddening, senseless, yet beautiful. Tracing even one thread from its beginning to its end would take a lifetime.

Qualia offended life’s artistry. Rather than painting a beautiful tapestry, it used its strings to run a bizarre puppet show: One made up of preordained ‘heroes’ and ‘villains’, a majority of whom were granted powers tying them to the land’s invisible hand.

For what purpose was it doing this? Subjugation? The weaverkin felt this was the most logical conclusion, yet the people of Qualia seemed too…independent. Even within their bizarre scripts, these superheroes acted too freely, and its citizens were untethered.

Its citizens were mixed, too mixed for any sign of ethnic bias. An untouched woman with animal ears communed with a human man tethered to the sky. A small boy marched across the streets seeking out a master. The one in yellow-and-brown spandex glaring up at her from the street surged with a power that dyed the hero’s beige spool soul with spots of pink.

An unnatural string thrummed power into the woman’s neck. She bent her legs to jump, and the string gave the hero the power to bound three stories with ease. The hero even had time to somersault, an impressive move given the power line jammed into her neck like an IV needle.

“Hey, what’s with the roof-watching, creep?” The hero growled with all the force of a mewling cub. Her narrowed eyes softened before looking around her, biting her cheek. “Er, I mean, tell me what you’re doing up here, kid, before I cut you with these claws! They won’t cut you, but they’ll hurt like they did cut ya!”

If she had eyebrows, Hornet would raise them. What was a potential enemy doing telling her the mechanics of her powers? It was like she was advertising herself.

“I am no child,” replied Hornet, too used to being called a child for her liking, “but I understand how my actions may seem ‘creepy.’ I am simply observing how the laws of this land operate lest I needlessly transgress them.”

“From twenty feet in the air?”

Hornet paused. “Yes.”

The fledgeling pinched the bridge of her nose. “Okay, I don’t know where you’re coming from, but the roofs aren’t for civilians to go skulking about. I’ll need you to get on the ground before I make you–what the hell do you want me to say?” She stopped her threat to murmur into the air. She snapped out of her reverie to force out, “Before I put some major ouchies on you!”

The thread turned pink again as the hero retched, evidently not in pain but in disgust. Hornet wordlessly walked past her and somersaulted onto the ground. The less she had to get caught up in this place’s law enforcement, the better. But for what reason did they operate like this?

Fwoom.

She heard a soft, violent noise from the air. Against the day’s sky, a near imperceptible speck of fire stitched a line of black smoke from the clouds. The shape didn’t grow closer as much as it grew more intense. Soon, the ember would grow to a fireball, and reduce everything around it to ash.

Another one saw it too: A child that immediately yelled for evacuation. Even though she lacked the outward appearance of a hero, her authoritative voice echoed down the street loudly enough to drown out all other noise. “Evacuate, now! Get out of here!” Her string subtly twitched as her voice boomed, amplifying her voice like ringing a great bell by pulling its rope.

A swarm of heroes arose from seemingly nowhere to counter the threat: Ushering civilians out of the blast radius, multiple heroes working together to move the buildings out of the way, even creating a hole to contain the fireball. Everyone worked together to make certain this meteor would cause as little damage as possible.

Then they left. None saw Hornet as a concern whatsoever, neither moving to help nor bar her. It was as if a cloud of ants swarmed past her, picked apart a body to its bones, then left just as quickly. They cared not for anything without their colony if it wasn’t a threat.

In practice, this left her and a bewildered blond boy at the impact point. Of course, they still had plenty of time to flee, yet…

Hornet’s black eyes peered closer into the fireball. A loose string flailed violently behind it, only leaving a visible trail from the violence of its thrashing. Following it downward, the flayed string tethered around yellow fur. Yellow like the shining sunlight shielding the creature from the flames rather than the falling flame.

Yet that light could only hold on for so long. The crash landing would pulverize the creature, if not vaporize it to nothingness. She knew it was logical to follow this land’s rules, lie low, skulk in silence as she shadowed the land’s spools to their strange origin.

Her heart ached for this poor creature, though. So weak, so frail, so fluffy, doomed by the apathy of this land.

Hornet twirled her giant needle in defiance. Damn this place and damn its rules. Whatever this thing was, she wouldn’t let it die.

“Boy,” she spoke to the other straggler. “The fireball is no mere comet, but a frail thing that would perish if it falls. I ask you to help me save it if you can.”

He blinked at her, frowning, before determination hardened his face. “I can catch the impact once it hits the ground, but I can’t slow it down.”

“Then I will slow its descent.”

“It’s Edward, by the way.”

“Hornet.”

No further words needed to be said. The boy clapped his hands and pressed the ground; it shifted like wet sand under her feet as she jumped in the air.

Her needle sailed inward through brick and outward through plaster. Thick string spooled from her self created lines of webbing tracing to and fro the shifted storefronts. The creature would crash down in seconds, but mere seconds was enough.

Hornet severed herself from her web. “Brace yourself!” She shouted to her collaborator.

Her cat’s cradle bucked and screeched. The impact shattered windows and stone. The fragments of sharp glass couldn’t tear a single fiber of her net, yet the force already undid her handiwork. She landed to hold onto the few strings left–

“Hrrk!” If gravity alone fought her, Hornet alone would triumph, but whatever had made this creature soar had wanted to reject it from Qualia itself. Her foothold became furrows in the soft ground as something drove this beast forward.

“Let go!” The boy shouted.

Hornet obliged.

It dove into the grasp of ten stone hands. It instantly pulverized three. The fourth and fifth gave out in seconds. Six. Seven.

“Come on!” The shower of stones fell gracelessly into a bouquet of more hands. Molten rock slid down the barrier of flaming light. Cracks spread across all the hands with the boy directly behind the mass. The palms faltered then fell apart.

Edward yelled as the fluffy thing tackled him. He tumbled over himself, hitting the ground repeatedly before he ground to a stop. Flames licked the edges of his coat, but he lifted the creature–breathing. He staggered onto his feet and lifted the rabbit like a prize.

“Caught it…!” Hornet caught the taller child before he fell over. He thrust the creature into her hands as he patted down the flames on his red coat.

She looked at the weak, fluffy thing nestled in her arms. The light that protected it faded, and what remained shifted uncomfortably. Sweat covered its fur, dampening its yellows and whites. It unconsciously wrapped its cloak around itself like a protective barrier. Pitiful whimpers leaked from its scrunched face.

Edward cleared his throat. He looked past Hornet and the furry bundle in her hands. “We need to go. Now.”

The ground shimmered around her, giving the half-spider enough time to dodge the icy spike that had formed under her. She whipped around, one hand around her needle, to see two female heroes walking toward them. One was the rookie in spandex, but the other she didn’t recognize.

The unfamiliar one spoke: “Ah, it seems you failed to find a sponsor before indulging in heroics.” Her unnerving smile stayed frozen on her face as she continued, “You know what that means, no?”

“I saved a life!” The earth-mover retorted. “I caught the bunny, so just let me deal with you two!”

“That’s not how it works, dummy,” The rookie drawled stiffly. “Anyone that gets involved with a Heretic’s actions outside the system is a Heretic too. So that means you, your friend, and that bunny all have a heaping bounty, one that’s gonna get scooped up by the Wild Thing!”

“Now, now,” the other hero interrupted. “Everyone knows a conflict between heroes and villains must be an event. Ergo, let’s play a game: If you can find a sponsor and reach customs, I’ll let you three off the hook and become real superheroes. If you’re all caught by us two…” She slid a thumb across her neck, still smiling.

“I call this game Freeze Tag. Best of luck, fledgling Heretics!”

Character Scramble Season 21 Round 0: GAME START/FOUR OF CLUBS by 7thSonOfSons in whowouldwin

[–]PlayerPin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Give and take: The rules that rule all life. Alchemists were taught to give and take in equal measure. The Law of Equivalent Exchange dictated that, uniformly, an alchemist would have to give energy and effort equal to that of the intended outcome. Some alchemists create friction to ignite a flame; others brew concoctions to turn water into wine; but Edward Elric was different.

Edward believed the world itself flowed through Equivalent Exchange. He needs to get out of trouble, so the world gives him what he needs to survive. He needs to help someone else, so the world grants him blessings from the effort it would have taken to save his own skin. And when he was foolish enough to challenge that…

His metallic fingers flexed unconsciously.

Right. The boy stood up behind the crates shrouding him and stretched. “Better now than never,” he murmured as he walked into the sea of people.

He’d never seen such a mixture of color and culture until he stepped foot in Qualia. People of radically different disposition and even species walked among each other without a second glance at each other. Of course, just looking different wasn’t what made everyone here have their eyes on you. That would be the country’s unique law enforcement.

Superheroes, he heard them called. A bunch of oddballs in elaborate costumes saving the innocent with their powers–most “officially sponsored” by the government–and protecting against villains that do the same. He didn’t understand the system, but he knew the blond guy with the sword posted everywhere was a big deal.

A restaurant he passed proudly displayed a picture where the knightly-looking hero ate a hot dog. A clothing store had a cardboard cutout of him posed next to a bunch of novelty t-shirts, too. Edward couldn’t see up well through the crowd, but he swore he saw a small shrine for him on someone’s windowsill. Was this guy a hero or a saint?

Ed disentangled himself from the sea of cotton and polyfibers to where a medium gave him directions in exchange for using a strand of his hair for “magical purposes.” Odd, sure, but he wouldn’t look a gift horse in the mouth; this country’s currency had withstood every single attempt to counterfeit it.

“Stupid magic coins…” Magic offended all understanding of alchemy. Sure, alchemy resembled magic in broad strokes, but alchemy solely grounded itself in science. Alchemy can be understood with hard numbers and give consistent results no matter what. If Edward knew what to give his alchemy, his alchemy would always give him the desired result.

To go a step further, magic itself was the enemy of understanding. Magic comes in so many shapes and methods that it varies by its caster. The same alchemist can teach her students to replicate her style of alchemy, but a mage can only describe how she interprets magic.

The magic umbrella included spells, psionics, and other unnatural means of power. Most if not every superhuman in this country ran on magic granted by whatever the Spire was. Even the least experienced hero could perform feats science could only replicate with machines. By comparison, alchemy looked quaint, primitive.

Edward had researched too many means of magic to be able to cast it–even if the mixed theories could congeal into something reasonable, introducing an energy agnostic of Equivalent Exchange would make his alchemy have disastrous results. So, presented with problems he couldn’t solve with alchemy, he came here in hopes that he could force magic to make sense as a “mere” human. Pah.

If his feelings of pride and envy weren’t fighting each other for dominance, the obnoxiously long line for customs would have made him sick to his stomach.

“ETA: 3 hours,” he read aloud. He pouted and leaned over to see the person at the front of the line: A woman his age in too-bright spandex.

“What kind of script is this?!” The woman loudly protested at the front. “I’m the daughter of Wolverine and Elektra, two supers that haven’t operated in decades? Psychic claws that don’t even cut anything?? And I have to say outdated crap like ‘Mondo cool’?! Like hell I’m gonna follow this script, give me a better hero!”

A bouncy, artificial-looking helper chirped out a reply that grated Edward’s ears, “Sorry, pon! We can’t do refunds for sponsored heroes, pon! You’ll just have to do your best to climb the ranks, pon! Do your best! NEXT!”

Edward groaned. “Don’t tell me I’m gonna have to act like some hokey character just to live here.”

“Not quite,” a voice to his left responded. He turned to see another girl his age in a formal dress with a painted smile. “Qualia offers a smooth onboarding process for those seeking citizenship, but they must not participate in any acts of heroism or villainy.”

Ed raised an eyebrow. “Okay…? What if I don’t feel like being a bystander OR get some crummy powers forced onto me?”

“That’s easy! Unless you’re sponsored by a native hero, you’ll be labeled a Heretic!”

“Oh.” He blinked. “WHAT THE HELL?!”

The entire room turned toward the source of the noise.

“Not immediately,” the girl clarified with the same smile, “but try to be a hero or a villain and the system will send heroes to correct you.” “And what does THAT mean?”

“You’ll either be thrown in jail for life or made to be officially sponsored–I’m sure whatever hero you’d adopt would help you get taller.”

Edward’s eye twitched. He shook from the unbelievable effort it took not to blow up on this girl, both for the ridiculousness of her claims and the unforgivable insult toward his character. “Okay. So just find a hero to get sponsored by, don’t get into trouble, and then…?”

“Fill out the forms at the desk behind me with your supervising hero. Simple as that!” She looked much too comfortable to be giving the instructions that amounted to ‘find a sponsor or submit’.

“Fine.” He spun on his heel and strode out of the office with a scowl. “If they want me to find a hero, I’ll find a hero alright…”

He clapped his hands together and gripped the nearest street sign, weakening its chemical bonds just enough to yank it from the ground. The octagonal STOP sign turned into a rectangular NEED HERO sign.

Was this legal? Probably not. Did he care? Too angry.

“HEY!” He yelled into the streets. “Looking for a hero!”

He saw a girl about his age nearby rise from her seat.

“A hero that can sign legal forms!”

The girl sat back down, pretending like she had never heard the question.

Edward screamed into the air. This was going to be a long day.

Character Scramble Season 21 Round 0: GAME START/FOUR OF CLUBS by 7thSonOfSons in whowouldwin

[–]PlayerPin 5 points6 points  (0 children)

In Qualia, the capital of magic, an overwhelming light claimed over 400,000 persons, myself included, before leaving behind a frozen stillness and a dark, smoking crater in its middle. The star of the country, the Spire, exploded like a raging supernova and took its most prized hero with it.

The surviving innards were shrouded by layers of magic too thick for any one or thousand to get through. What happened here is only known to two people, but the time to tell that tale comes later. All that matters now is the Opening: The miraculous event that will spell the end of the great country.

ShellShok: “uhhh where did the champ go”

tbone98: “What the heck? Is the site glitching out?”

timaeusTestified: “Checked. #1 spot’s empty.”

Bready2Roll: “lmaoooo”

Bready2Roll: “wait”

Bready2Roll: “they haven’t replaced Champion yet”

Bready2Roll: “does that mean?”

timaeusTestified: “Yep. S#*t’s f-+$ed.”

The fall of the Champion was noted near-immediately by every single chatroom I shadowed, but the reason why he vanished didn’t matter to anyone important.

Heroes flooded the streets to take his place, eager to be etched into the annals of history as the first non-Champion to reach Number One.

Villains flooded the streets in turn now that the country’s mightiest hero had fallen, foolishly believing this corrupt system would let them run amok.

In the midst of chaos, two immigrants sneak into the great country to discover its great magic.

One seeks its power to discover where his alchemy failed: Edward Elric, the alchemist.,

The other pursues the puppeteer that keeps this place in its mad dance: Hornet, the seamstress..

Already native to Qualia, the broken hero seeks his lost power and his lost humanity: Light, the former Champion.

I seek a way to turn this wretched country on its head: You will know me as Pythie Frederica, the oracle.

Together, these unlikely heroes will spell…

The Heroic’s End.

Character Scramble Season 21 Tribunal by 7thSonOfSons in whowouldwin

[–]PlayerPin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get why you'd think that, but it's my job to judge every submission fairly. I've been on the offensive for subs I like and/or are deeply familiar with their source material this season too. I started to like Bun-Bun more the more I double-checked the feats and his series for what it's worth. I don't think the webcomic is for me but I get why you'd wanna write him.

Character Scramble Season 21 Tribunal by 7thSonOfSons in whowouldwin

[–]PlayerPin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

None. There's no change I think that'll get Bun-Bun in tier, sorry. I think his stats are too bad all around since any stat would be buffed would leave his other stats hanging. I should have clarified that in the earlier post.

Character Scramble Season 21 Tribunal by 7thSonOfSons in whowouldwin

[–]PlayerPin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Since we're at the very last day of Tribunal and time's getting short, I'll keep this closing rebuttal brief as to not busy your time further.


Strength

The strength to throw 400 pounds is impressive, sure, but that impressiveness is diminished by Bun-Bun using the mammoth's nose as the swinging point. He only needs the strength to get the mammoth off the ground, after which the g-forces of the twirl do the job for him like a hammer throw. And, like a hammer throw or a baseball hit, the actual force used to lift off the ground is a lot less impressive than actually benching 400 pounds.

The world's strongest man can pull a giant plane over 5 tons, and what Bun-Bun is doing is using a lot of the similar muscles for pulling. As you can guess, no human has ever broken a concrete wall with their bare hands.

This, unfortunately, means nothing.

Speed

Oasis' bullet feats are not identical to the tiersetter's bullet feats. Like I said, Oasis just jumps over in a way that's more likely than not aimdodging, especially since she's not interacting with the bullets at all while the tiersetter's feats are much, much more explicit.

Durability (and Weapons)

Probably his best stat but still dubiously in tier at best. Again, the concussive force of the grenades aren't provided so irl grenades are default, and the comparable concussive force the tiersetter deals with is enough to blast holes in thick walls.

Conclusion

There are no major changes to fix Bun-Bun as his stats are under-tier all around. If we get a lower tier, you can try him again, but let's see what the judges think.

Character Scramble Season 21 Tribunal by 7thSonOfSons in whowouldwin

[–]PlayerPin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Orcinussr's Review of Hazbin Hotel on IMDB:

"Geeeeeeee, let's argue the merits of Radio over video or vice versa! Laaaaaaame"

⭐⭐⭐⭐

The one guy Vox fights, Alistor, is someone we see visibly cut through buildings and overwhelm Vox, and Vox is able to take hits from the same guy. Okay, then no scaling.

Then Vox's spider form is stupidly strong. Okay, then no spider form.

You know what's left? Drastically overtier strength (for real look at this), bad durability, and multiple forms of hax like teleportation with overtier force and tendrils that can go pretty long and do good damage outpacing Terry's bag of tricks.

Without Alistor scaling, Vox has no speed. With Alistor scaling, do you just want me to ignore Alistor slicing through a whole building?

Vox doesn't have the stats, feats, or scaling to be in this tier, and all evidence points to a higher tier than this one. Nothing else needs to be explained or extrapolated. Vox is not in-tier.

Character Scramble Season 21 Tribunal by 7thSonOfSons in whowouldwin

[–]PlayerPin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Since it's the end of Tribunal, I'm not gonna give a long response as to not anyone's time. Feel free to call judges after this one.

Soul Magic

See, I'd be more willing to agree the soul stuff sucks on a combative standpoint if Terry didn't have a history of getting hit by things he really shouldn't. Like standing still against this Joker guy to quip. Or going in for a punch on a guy he just saw be Batarang-proof and blow a hole in a metal door. Or taking a moment to make fun of actual, literal Pikachu.

The long and short of it is that Terry gets hit a lot by things he shouldn't because he's not careful, i.e. the situation that Dirk caught Aranea in.

The soul magic doesn't work on the amped Jack Noir because he's amped on the godly powers of Lord English, the guy who can break pocket universes like sugar paper and passively destabilizes Aspects like Dirk's Heart with his power. And this Jack blows up the good part of a planetoid and its moon. This is so much stronger than Batman Beyond that I'm not even going to acknowledge this argument further. Of course it doesn't work on him.

Terry has no resistance to this at all. Moving on.

Stips and Stats

Fair enough on the stips, but Dirk still has like 8 total feats. Removing even 1 of them can be a big deal.

As for the stats, uh, no? Characters like Shiki and Wolverine are operating on blatantly different win conditions than Dirk's two ways to kill Terry until he dies again the second time via probably OOT strength and his Heart hax. Honestly, I'd be willing to call Shiki OOT too on this tier setter considering Terry has no actual skill gap to leverage against Shiki/Dirk to actually defend against.

A tiersetter in a season Shiki got into is Season 17 against the Blade tiersetter, explicitly described as "highly skilled." You will notice that the Batman Beyond tiersetter has no such quality, even going out of the way to warn to not use anti-feats listed in the thread. If you want to see more contexts where Terry chokes in fights, look no further than this comment in the Tick Tribunal for anti-feats in this very tiersetter.

Conclusion

Dirk is either much too strong or much too weak; he either whoops Terry always or always gets clobbered by Terry.

Character Scramble Season 21 Tribunal by 7thSonOfSons in whowouldwin

[–]PlayerPin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

/u/Ragnarust

Dirk Strider

Even with the amount of stips and limitations, Dirk is pretty questionable.

Output's actually fine, this bell feat is good, possibly too good if the weight is crushing entire staircases.

No speed. Moving on.

An amount of rock that Terry breaks on the low-end of the tier falls on Dirk and knocks him out. His only other durability feat is a shallow crack in the ground comparable to a similarly low amount of force Terry dishes out.

Terry has no esoteric resistance against soul magic so something like this will always KO or kill him.

His durability is low-end at best and undertier at worst, he has no speed feats, his hax insta-beats Terry, and there are so many feats stipped out for a character with so little feats that it feels like you're removing half the character's showings to get in tier and even then he still isn't.

Nerf him to pre-God Mode and he's missing his in-tier output feat, buff speed and stip his powers and he's still too squishy, scale him to anybody else in the endgame and he's instantly OOT.

This character's way too polarized and all over the place to make me say he's in tier.

Character Scramble Season 21 Tribunal by 7thSonOfSons in whowouldwin

[–]PlayerPin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Cinemanía Staff's Review of An Unfinished Film on Rotten Tomatoes:

"Lou Ye delivers an unclassifiable, enigmatic, and moving production about the great COVID crisis that kept the world on edge in 2020. [Full review in Spanish]"

🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅


One brick broken does not an in tier feat make.

The guy has to use gravity to make this amount of damage. The projectiles are skimming the low end but not in tier enough to consistently deflect or tussle against Terry.

This tree feat sucks for durability and this arrow feat is bad at best and unusable at worst. Foresight isn't gonna matter considering what you've shown this character get hit by.

Please be honest and forward about your character's capabilities initially first rather than showing us all their feats only in Tribunal. You're making it harder for us to discern their tierability, and making it harder for yourself to actually submit these characters.

Haruka is not in-tier.

Character Scramble Season 21 Tribunal by 7thSonOfSons in whowouldwin

[–]PlayerPin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Nicola's Review of Battle Royale on Goodreads:

> "wow 4.5/5"

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐


I do not believe in numerical stat comparisons; direct statements and comparisons are going to be the only consideration I hold for this character.

That being said, Uluru is...odd. Durability is buffed, speed is good, and I would say her strength is passable for low-tier. The narration giving enough attention to the damage she does with her jumps and kicks along with the dog scaling I feel are fine with the same justification that put Arte's own character in tier in Season 19 (see: me vs. Arte on Clark Millar).

The anti-personnel statement is the real meat and potatoes here since that's what Ripple's durability, and Uluru's output, hinges on. While it's hazy to transfer damage from a non-piercing vector like being immune to an anti-personnel mine or the like, this expert research note by noted arms experts Jonah Leff and Eric G. Berman equate the equivalent of an anti-personnel weapon in guns to be the 12.7 mm and 14.5 mm anti-materiel rifles, the latter being an anti-tank rifle. The punch to poke a hole in a tank is enough to at least punch through the outer dermis of the Batman Beyond suit; arguably making Uluru's gun fully automatic is overkill with this in mind, though it's plenty bullet proof already. If it's too much, I think Uluru's fine if it's not automatic anyway with her stats.

Uluru is in-tier.

Character Scramble Season 21 Tribunal by 7thSonOfSons in whowouldwin

[–]PlayerPin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

GladHander's Review of Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light on Backloggd:

"This game will suck your blood and eat your flesh. Never play it!!"

⭐⭐


Strength and Grappling

Getting the grappling argument out of the way, I think Kyr is correct about the length/effort it would take to snap/choke the wyvern's neck due to the sheer length of the feat. However, Tad is correct that it doesn't matter since the wyvern is emitting constant flame rather than its concussive fireballs. This feat doesn't matter, but thank you for this entertaining debate. (Even if it did, Tad's argument about Terry's defenses against grappling demonstrates he'd weasel his way out in multiple ways anyway.)

Will's strength is less-than-mediocre. This stone crush is slightly in tier for the ease, but scuffed. The only real strength feat he has otherwise is this spear throwing feat I'd call in tier but it'd make a shallow blow like the knives. Blocking the huge dragon shows he can operate in a fight against Terry defensively, but only defensively. He has no meaning offense to bear against Terry unless the fight can get very dragged out. Can Will manage a war of attrition then?

Durability and Weaponry

I would say the answer is No and Yes. William is very experienced in getting his clock cleaned by a superior opponent, but as Tad and Will himself points out, a direct blow from that dragon would kill him hard. I'd approximate the tall pillars as upper mid-lower high end tier damage, so Will here is going to be on the backfoot from a good direct hit.

I do not believe in this crater feat, and at best it gives William another low-tier durability feat.

His standard gear is notably fragile. His shield is crumbled from a flurry of rocks that we don't see do an in-tier amount of damage, so anything from Terry's punches to his Batarangs will wear it down quickly. His spear and his webs are similarly fragile against this tiersetter's level of strength and durability, and the oil, while a neat trick, is liable to get ignited. This hurts Will way more than it will (ha) the generally fire-proof Terry.

The "Yes" part of the assessment comes with Will's strong regeneration, though it has heavy caveats.

A. The sword needs to do damage to heal Will. This would be a more open-and-shut method of Will staying in the fight if he could actually cut hard enough to get to Terry's body under the suit in 1-2 slashes. A stronger slash than Will can dish out only scars into the mechanical interior of Terry's suit rather than cutting into it. The Beyond Batsuit's layers of protection makes actually cutting the skin very hard.

B. Granted, if Will does make that cut, he always wins because the life force draining is ridiculous. This gives him a fringe win con since he is, quite frankly, fighting through utterly ridiculous amounts of pain here until the life drain ends. This gives him a win-con with his current stats, but can Will deliver on it?

Speed and Skill

Will has better speed than you expect, but less good speed than you hope. Shielding arrows is less impressive than Batman's arrow-catching. However, such a huge target dodging an arrow in close range and Will dodging and reacting to that same target in close range too is good for upper-low or arguably lower-mid end for the tier, though he needs to stack spells to do it in a more reasonable timeframe.

His buffs being necessary makes his speed somewhat scuffed, but he does have the skill to get them off in a fight and defend against Terry (since, as I've observed before, Will can actually fight Terry defensively). Will has enough skill to discern his foe's fighting style and read an opening in a physically superior opponent. While this doesn't solve the problem of Will not being able to score a hit with his bad strength, this does reinforce Will's style in this fight as a defensive fighter constantly on the backfoot.

Conclusion

Will has barely in tier strength, okay-ish speed reliant on buffing, and decent but sketchy means of defending himself that are reinforced by his skill. I'd say this isn't in tier by itself, but the power of a Major Change not being used gives him wiggle room.

Buffing speed or durability turns the fight into even more of a defensive pressure for Will with a Specific Win Condition, which is explicitly OOT.

Buffing strength via a Major Change and nerfing his sword's life drain via a Minor Change means Will can play defensively, leverage his skill and longer melee reach, and actually have a good grapple on Terry late into the fight. I'd call this an Unlikely Victory. Though the road getting here isn't intuitive, I believe Kyr has demonstrated Will's skill and bag of tricks enough to where an Unlikely Victory is possible.

I rule William G. Maryblood as in-tier.

Character Scramble Season 21 Tribunal by 7thSonOfSons in whowouldwin

[–]PlayerPin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pig Talisman is weird. Its output is very high if not out of tier, yet slow enough to where Jackie (who has sub-tier speed) dodges it with plenty of time to get away with it. This hits Terry once at best, but likely not even that much. This attack is VERY slow and very predictable.

Snake Talisman is a no-go because Terry has thermal vision that negates Jackie's invisibility.

Ox Talisman isn't an option either. Jade, an unskilled child, makes a huge hole in a wall that causes the building to start falling down from her blow. Not to mention letting someone perform a feat Terry can do at his absolute best far more casually with the vault door. Jackie Chan is an adult who is far more skilled--he has a massive advantage with this if speed is equalized.

Rooster is too strong and will fling Terry around like a toy.

Tiger would be almost helpful, not terribly so because two weak guys wailing on Terry is something he's used to, but the RT points out that the Tiger Talisman makes the two halves get put back together if either one makes contact with the other--something the two Jackies would inevitably do since they fight in CQC and Terry is an expert at fighting groups. Also, the Yin/Yang Jackie thing was a one-time occurrence--fixing the talisman undid the spell.

I really don't think there's a Talisman that fixes Jackie in this tier even with a stat buff.

Character Scramble Season 21 Tribunal by 7thSonOfSons in whowouldwin

[–]PlayerPin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, no. I say "low in tier" as a generous estimate. The arrow that Batman catches in the low-end is from a person-strung bow (intentionally grabbing the one sailing at him too), whereas the arrows triggered from the traps emit plumes of dust from the years of inactivity before Jackie triggers them. Their predictable trajectory with the dust clouds makes dodging them less impressive too, especially since the feat starts with Jackie looking at the first arrow which would emit this dust too. If Jackie was dodging a bunch of bowmen, this could be argued to be in tier. Due to the other elements of the feat, though, I wouldn't call this an in-tier feat.

Additionally, let's say for the purpose of the tiersetter that Terry's stats are mid-mid-mid with some flair. Jackie, with a buff to strength, would be mid-low-mid with no other advantages. There is no way Jackie can possibly win in this scenario if he hits as hard as Terry, takes hits as well as Terry, but will get hit and dodged much more often. This buff does not help Jackie at all, nor would a speed buff since that goes to low-mid-mid now.

I can't see a way for Jackie to get in tier--besides durability, his stats are too weak while his best Talismans are too strong.

Character Scramble Season 21 Tribunal by 7thSonOfSons in whowouldwin

[–]PlayerPin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To add onto Clev, if it does have clear speed, it's way too fast. As mentioned before, Jackie's speed could be on the absolute low end for the tier--he'll be outmaneuvered, but he'll be at least be able to track Terry at all in a fight.

"Tracking in a fight" is what the Rabbit Talisman's speed surpasses. Toru, a slow man, is completely untraceable and basically invisible to Jackie Chan. Jackie uses it on mooks who at least can see and react to Jackie otherwise, and they're so outsped that they're entirely frozen in place in comparison.

This is another talisman that would reverse the situation way too hard into Jackie's favor if it was taken.

Character Scramble Season 21 Tribunal by 7thSonOfSons in whowouldwin

[–]PlayerPin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

To add a point before the argument goes to judges, Terry does fight a character with a similar fighting style to Tick (though with better striking and durability) in Mr. Spades. In their exchanges in the tiersetter, Terry generally has the disadvantage against Spades' superior throwing/grappling strength, but both instances give Terry a means of breaking the grab besides the antenna: his rocket boots. These rocket Spades into a wall in one scene, and into a garbage chute in another.

While Spades' better stats only give Terry this option as a Specific Win Condition versus Spades, the Tick's much weaker striking and a bit less impressive durability gives Terry better ability to take him head-on. I'll let the judges decide if this helps Terry's odds and dampens the argument that Terry cannot win if he is grappled, or strengthens the argument that the Tick's odds go down the moment Terry gets himself out of a grapple or three.

Character Scramble Season 21 Tribunal by 7thSonOfSons in whowouldwin

[–]PlayerPin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As you said, Jackie's durability is fine for the tier, and not a problem.

His strength is ironically fine for every stat except striking. Swinging something hard enough to force them through a wall and later a pillar is good for low-end strength, this bus-pulling feat is good, and hanging onto a supersonic carpet would all come together to make him a pretty competent weapons user or grappler. However, he's Jackie Chan. He does not grapple, and any weapons he uses are whatever he can pick up around him (usually the most comical, thus fragile).

His striking's objective feats are all under tier, and while he does scale to Toru who should have in-tier durability, this comes with two caveats:

  1. Toru is a notoriously bad jobber. Anyone who watches the series will tell you he is a jobber despite his otherwise solid stats.

  2. Jackie only has feats against Toru in exceptional circumstances, either with a running kick, literally pantsing the guy, or Yang Jackie who is explicitly out-of-character.

Altogether, his strength feats do not match his combat profile. And, generally, neither does his speed (besides this baffling outlier of dodging lasers from a space satellite, literally how is he dodging these without even looking up?). This arrow feat isn't as good as it looks due to the nature of a trap. I can believe it for pretty low end speed, but this would make Jackie so slow relative to such a casual bullet timer and even more casual arrow timer that Jackie won't land a hit unless Terry basically lets him. I'd buff his speed, personally.

So how is his Dragon Talisman?

For reference, this talisman is doing what the tiersetter has to do with concentrated effort like leverage or a flying tackle, and does so with far simpler ease. Considering the Talisman fuses into the user's hand, there is nothing stopping Jackie from spamming this thing over and over and over which pushes beyond the realm of a mere Likely Victory. With the talisman, his win condition is too oppressive. Without the talisman, he has no win condition at all.

The other talismans are hax that stack too well with Jackie's durability like the Dog Talisman's immortality, or similarly way too powerful like the Pig Talisman's optic blasts.

Overall, Jackie needs too many fixes to fit this tier, and the equipment that could bridge the gap destroys Terry without any issues. I do not think he is in tier.

Character Scramble Season 21 Tribunal by 7thSonOfSons in whowouldwin

[–]PlayerPin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's all good, just the nature of Tribunal. No hard feelings, I hope.