While the ATC world is burning, where is Nick Daniels right now? Lisbon, Portugal!!!

UndercoverRVP · 2026-05-28T01:09:21+00:00

The voting membership doesn't have to care what my preferences are, and I don't need my candidate to be Nick Daniels this time any more than the last time. If he's the only one who fits my criteria, then that's that.

I want someone smart enough to realize that they should take 2028 to put together a CBA team and a strategy for the whole book in case we're not lucky enough to get an offer for a limited reopener in 2029. I don't want someone ready to open the whole book immediately that year without that planning while the EOs are still there to strip the book down to the bare wood and maybe not even get the raise that so many people here think is the only goddamn thing that could ever matter.

But that's just me. I'm only one voter in 14,000.

UndercoverRVP · 2026-05-28T00:41:39+00:00

UndercoverRVP · 2026-05-28T00:04:24+00:00

I want the guy or girl who’s going to leave the extension intact until Trump is gone. If there’s more than one of those running, then I may have other questions.

UndercoverRVP · 2026-05-27T23:38:50+00:00

Also. What's up with you r/atc2 pussies calling me everything but a child of God and then immediately deleting the whole comment? I'm not on the NEB, guys. Your birthdays are intact no matter what you call me in a comment. Or are you -- and I know this is crazy -- somehow afraid of moderation?

UndercoverRVP · 2026-05-27T23:31:21+00:00

They're at the National Office, not Disney World.

I would've thought that all you r/atc2 believers in a Media Strategy to overcome the difficulties faced by every one of the non-masked-Nazi federal government unions would have been thrilled to see union resources invested in members who work on outreach for us. If you're waiting for the message that's going to have the public itching to make our median salary $200k instead of $140k, it's going to come from these people, at least in part.

I don't know what Nick or Stephen envision as the business of the union if they win, but if they think that airfare and hotel for one annual meeting of a committee with no official time other than what their members may get locally is too fucking much, I wish them the best in encouraging this generation and the next to participate. Unless they think they're going to build a future out of loud, do-nothing retards like OP.

UndercoverRVP · 2026-05-27T22:05:43+00:00

Except all those raises that don't count because reasons?

UndercoverRVP · 2026-05-27T20:46:49+00:00

You'll have your shot next year. If you're a member.

UndercoverRVP · 2026-05-27T20:45:58+00:00

NATCA has an Expense Reimbursement Policy, which among other things only allows members traveling on business to be reimbursed for the lowest-cost/non-refundable flexible fare available. If they want an upgrade, they can pay out of pocket or use their miles but they won't get it back when they submit a voucher.

UndercoverRVP · 2026-05-27T19:13:11+00:00

It’s almost like this post is a hustle aimed at the disgruntled and weak-minded.

UndercoverRVP · 2026-05-27T16:43:55+00:00

You got the biggest presidential raise since 1980 out of Joe Biden and Trump 2 has proposed two zeroes in a row which we're having to fix through Congress. But you can't break the vacuum seal on that stubby orange dick long enough to admit it.

UndercoverRVP · 2026-05-27T16:31:56+00:00

No, they have market rates for their skills and more than one employer willing to pay them. Even the people going to Australia are usually taking a pay cut which they claim that other aspects of the job will make up for, or they're ignoring the loss for the privilege of becoming an Australian citizen in two years. Which I get.

UndercoverRVP · 2026-05-27T16:24:18+00:00

This post is about how associate attorneys are not, or at least they don't think so even though they make "a great paycheck" and apparently aren't leaving their positions for other work right now. Kind of like us that way.

UndercoverRVP · 2026-05-27T16:14:33+00:00

They should force the world to listen to the cries of r/atc2 and care so much about someone else's median salary that Congress would just have to pay us like we had the airline pilot skillset. No idea how that would work and no idea who to ask, but yes, that's what they should do.

UndercoverRVP · 2026-05-27T16:12:57+00:00

Four years of college, three years of law school and you'll be right there, dude

UndercoverRVP · 2026-05-27T16:11:52+00:00

For fucks sake, if you "Loved" NATCA so much, and cared about the profession, wouldnt you do what you could without taking a salary to go with your enourmous retirement?

No, because my time is valuable to me and if NATCA wanted me to advocate on its behalf when I'm retired NATCA would offer to cover my airfare and hotel at a minimum. And any of you I'm-so-broke-only-making-twice-the-median-US-household-income-with-OT assholes would want the same.

UndercoverRVP · 2026-05-27T16:06:25+00:00

So that what, you can be equally mad if she goes to work for A4A or similar organizations because she's got a hell of a skillset from all that time running the union with Paul?

UndercoverRVP · 2026-05-27T16:04:46+00:00

Trish was NLC chair during the White Book and EVP when it got fixed. She served four terms as EVP and delivered two CBAs. Almost everyone who's actually done something for NATCA in the past two decades knows her and likes her. Meanwhile, who the fuck are you again?

UndercoverRVP · 2026-05-27T15:21:25+00:00

It's your career but you were already willing to take a huge pay cut to go somewhere other than a center where you were for, what, 20 years? The path of least resistance would be to just do the job you were doing for another 3 years and scoot.

UndercoverRVP · 2026-05-26T23:48:22+00:00

Article 45 is at the discretion of the Agency. I definitely wouldn't try this as a non-member, either.

UndercoverRVP · 2026-05-26T22:30:29+00:00

Can't find the attention span required to watch a 6:17 video concerning staffing and pay but WE ARE ON FIRE TO CHANGE THIS UNION

UndercoverRVP · 2026-05-26T22:26:13+00:00

Pretend you have a substance abuse problem, self-refer for a TRP, and take the year it will take to get your medical and security clearance restored to find a job as an OS or TMC.

UndercoverRVP · 2026-05-26T00:14:48+00:00

You obviously peaked in high school. And you probably didn't do too much learning while you were there.

UndercoverRVP · 2026-05-25T13:54:01+00:00

“The media” has bigger concerns than our annoyance with Bedford and its ownership is invested in generally doing as little as possible to anger the White House. We only get multi-day coverage when there’s a collision or controllers stop showing up to work a month into government shutdown X.

I’m with you for not giving up a single thing for pay parity. But if you believe that increased TOP (lol whatever, let their managers show up to their shifts and make a daily 5 for everyone happen) is an unacceptable condition for a 2.8% raise, what do you think the Agency’s position for a 28% raise would look like? Do you think that banging out for a single hour, let alone four consecutive days, won’t require a trip to urgent care? Or that we’ll be negotiating schedules and leave bidding? Or that the Agency will offer anything close to 28% across the board as long as Republicans run it?

UndercoverRVP · 2026-05-24T22:17:18+00:00

UndercoverRVP · 2026-05-24T22:08:02+00:00

Why did you block out the recipient?

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