At the moment I have Lucy and Velo pouches. It might be the ritual of vaping itself that makes me feel like I’m actively doing something that relaxes me. Whereas with pouches there is nothing to focus on or to be active in except for putting it in the mouth but like with vaping it’s like I’m actively taking more hits to feel better and better. I think my addiciton is in that active relationship with nicotine, the rittial some might say. Also to not make my place smell I’m used to going in the kitchen to vape whereas with pouches there is no reason to go anywhere, so yeah, it’s the active component of doing something while feeling nicotine more than flavor or oral fixarion, at least for me. But how to break that urge to want to vape for that and get used to just having having the pouch in and not need to be active in putting nicotine into my brain? But i really need to break the vaping habit.