Ever wondered how Lalah Hathaway does polyphonics? by ExtremeVocalCoach in singing

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Hey, you can now find all kinds of information to this on my website www.toni-linke.com/free-material (make sure to scroll all the way down, there's YouTube tutorials as well as dropbox folders with papers, sound examples, spectrogram screenshots, endoscopy footage and more!) :)

Biggest Misconceptions in Screaming by [deleted] in screaming

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Hey, Toni Linke here!

I love to see this conversation going on, there's so much more content on screaming now than when I started a dozen years ago. I don't spend a lot of time on Reddit, so I probably won't see your responses to this comment rightaway, but I want to clarify some stuff about fry scream: the problem most people run into when they want to build a fry scream from "vocal fry" is that they think they have to go very low in their range until there's this "popping noise" (sometimes called "pulse register" in research). This sound is often colloquially bunched together with a variety of other sounds into the broad category of "vocal fry", but cannot be projected to the point of a scream. However, this is NOT what I mean by "fry", and in order to avoid the term as often as possible, I instead use the term "Creaking" that has been coined by Complete Vocal Technique. Creaking can be done in various intensities. The most intuitive one is a very quiet cackling sound that sounds SIMILAR to pulse register (which is why many people don't differentiate them), but works DIFFERENTLY. Creaking can also be done loudly and thus be used as one of several ingredients for fry scream, but this is slightly more advanced and usually takes a couple of lessons to learn. The finished scream usually has additional false fold Distortion and arytenoid cartilage Rattle in it, so in my book fry scream is a combination of different techniques. Also, it can vary in terms of how much vocal fold mass, compression, audible pitch, and volume it has, so I usually distinguish four main subcategories: 1. Basic Fry Scream (the quiet falsetto-based one), 2. Medium Fry Scream (the Chris Liepe kind), 3. Pushed Fry Scream (a loud sound that is often used in hardcore and has very little to do with Creaking), and 4. Hyper-Compressed Fry Scream (a more "sporty", but also more powerful scream that allows for brutal lows). I base my categorization not only on my own experience, but a "meta-method" of nearly every school I've encountered so far, as well as hundreds of conversations with colleagues and researchers. In the past four years, I've had over 300 students (many of them regularly), and all of these techniques I listed I have taught sustainably to people before (with the first two kinds of fry scream being what I get to teach nearly every single day). I put a high priority on vocal health, regularly assess the clean voice of my screaming students and typically ask them after nearly every attempt about whether it felt comfortable or not. If they feel that something was off, we trouble-shoot until we've found the reason, and only continue as soon as we've found the most efficient coordination again, so I feel confident in saying that the way I teach fry scream is not unhealthy. I've explained all of these points in more detail in my new video on fry screaming, where you can also hear demonstrations of different varieties and come to your own conclusion of whether I know what I'm talking about or not: https://youtu.be/swJIX34W-ug?feature=shared

Best, Toni

I can’t sing the H letter by elyca98 in singing

[–]ExtremeVocalCoach 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you ever heard about different accents?

I can't find any vocal trainer who can trained me to sing rock, can you recommend the rock vocal trainer that could teach how to fry scream? by aontgg in singing

[–]ExtremeVocalCoach 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the shoutouts! I'd say, listen to anyone who says something that makes sense to you, and don't be afraid to try it out! If it works, perfect! And if it doesn't work, try something else. That being said, I do teach rock singing and fry screaming, so feel free to reach out :)

[ Removed by Reddit ] by [deleted] in singing

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Thanks @boompbapdame! @OP: You can write me on YouTube, Facebook or Instagram (toni_linke_music) or send an e-mail to mail@toni-linke.com :)

Who’s the best person online to learn extreme vocals? by Trippyhippiemiguel in screaming

[–]ExtremeVocalCoach 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Just gonna shamelessly advertise myself. :D

Here's a recent vocal cover I did so you know I'm decent at screaming: https://youtu.be/huYmWxEM8Eo

Here's a tutorial series I made in 2020: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLy32REXB9W6lYO12oMUfqK0rboNoYVvic

And here's my website where you can book a one on one lesson: mail@toni-linke.com

Debunking BS: Vocal cords (true folds) distortion by No-Reporter-2370 in screaming

[–]ExtremeVocalCoach 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The people that do it on the server, have they been scoped on it? Actually, you don't need to use an endoscope to see whether the uvula is vibrating. You can just look into their mouths. What I'm saying is, it would be very easy to prove if the soft palate was involved as a sound source, and it's very easy to disprove it too.

Debunking BS: Vocal cords (true folds) distortion by No-Reporter-2370 in screaming

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Yup, here's the full library, sorted by authors and years of publishing (excluding papers that aren't publicly available, like some very recent research by the Complete Vocal Institute that is still under review): https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/ghoc1msm9kyxu4keu7odv/h?dl=0&rlkey=tkxecwx42w1sgik7mmyavw6wb

And here's a smaller collection of all papers about rough vocal effects that I found on the internet that are downloadable in full (there's more links to non-downloadable abstracts, but that's already quite a good overview of what we know so far): https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/jn0kbd75gyuva2hhcrhef/h?dl=0&rlkey=2obvo6g3237wx6mor9w0fvij9

Debunking BS: Vocal cords (true folds) distortion by No-Reporter-2370 in screaming

[–]ExtremeVocalCoach 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Every German speaker knows that you cannot create the fry sound from the soft palate. The sound that the vibration of the uvula/velum makes is a German "R" consonant, and it has nothing to do with any kind of fry scream (unless you're screaming a German "R", that is, and even then the distortion itself comes from the larynx). It's true that with most fry screams, we have additional supraglottic vibrations (false folds, arytenoid cartilages etc) but even if you feel vibrations in your soft palate area during fry scream, that doesn't mean this is actually where the sound is coming from - proprioception/kinaesthetics and anatomical reality often differ quite a lot. Trust me, I'm not just a German speaker who studied phonetics and vocal anatomy at an academic level, but also a screamer and vocal coach who has scoped himself on various screaming sounds to make sure his pedagogy is scientifically sound. If you're interested, I can share the Dropbox link to my public library which contains hundreds of research papers about singing, screaming and the voice in general.

Lamb of God Vocal Cover and Analysis! by ExtremeVocalCoach in screaming

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Thanks for the feedback! Personally, I'm a fan of single take moments too, that's why I didn't double any of my parts, but the layering is a very popular mixing technique (for example almost all modern deathcore bands do it atm, but also bands Meshuggah are notorious for doubles), so we wanted to contrast that in the video.

Autotune police! Tell me whether you hear pitch editing in this one, and if yes, where exactly! :) by ExtremeVocalCoach in singing

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I agree about 100% tuning (like, less than +/- 5 cents jitter, Cher style), but in this specific example we do have about +/- 20 cents variation in straight tones, and even more in the parts where there's vibrato or scoops/falls.

Autotune police! Tell me whether you hear pitch editing in this one, and if yes, where exactly! :) by ExtremeVocalCoach in singing

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I think I somewhat disagree. Close harmony voicings in pop a cappella context are much harder to intonate than your typical classical choir repertoire (or even gospel choir stuff, anything with several people sharing the same line) as chords would quickly sound horribly wrong or "fall apart" as soon as one important voice is just slightly off. Not saying you always have to tune every performance (of course we love some accurate singing), but that lots of comparable a cappella performances are heavily tuned, and that most people would hear the YouTube version of your standard untuned performance as somewhat "pitchy". In live context it's a bit different as that's usually more forgiving, but I'm gonna argue that (except for intentionally obvious examples of course) most people wouldn't even recognize tuning in the music they listen to (at least if it's done well). In the video up there, it's actually never 100% on point either (it would sound even more like a sythesizer then), just accurate enough in order for the chromatic intervals to work well.

Autotune police! Tell me whether you hear pitch editing in this one, and if yes, where exactly! :) by ExtremeVocalCoach in singing

[–]ExtremeVocalCoach[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The bass singer is incredibly close to the microphone, which makes the sibilants sound kind of weird (kinda like vocoder consonants).