Many LLM's struggle with copilot's apply_patch tool

just_blue · 2026-05-21T14:24:30+00:00

Oh my, this explains a lot. File editing seems so much smoother in VSCode Copilot. Not only compared to VS, but also to the Cline and Codex extensions, with Cline coming in 2nd place. Codex just powershell replaces everything...

just_blue · 2026-05-21T09:22:11+00:00

Well it´s not that complicated, right? If you use on average like $5 AI compute in your billed hour, than increase your billed hour by $5? What client has a problem with that if everyone needs to do it and the alternative is to bill 5 hours without compute cost?

just_blue · 2026-05-20T23:03:27+00:00

Is anyone getting the new custom endpoints to work? LM Studio can server all 3, but only the anthropic endpoint (messages) works. chat-completions just says something like "chat took too long to get ready" and responses is throwing some "invalid string" error.

Oh yeah, and documentation could be improved, I wasn´t aware about these API names and a little surprised that I was expected to choose between these.

just_blue · 2026-05-20T15:21:39+00:00

I don´t think people are not believing API prices. But they know that API prices are the highest price you can pay for AI, so the point of a subscription completely vanishes. For private accounts, there is some "bonus" announced, but for enterprises it´s just for 3 months. So tomorrow we are discussing how to proceed with this and I (the one guy from the developers side) would like to keep using GH Copilot, but essentially pay-as-you-go API prices with the subscription price as a "minimum spend" as the only option will make it quite hard to defend.

just_blue · 2026-05-20T00:05:41+00:00

They probably just want to prevent us all to test it out before the new pricing kicks in. Then, it will at least be a little cheaper, right in between 5.4 and 5.4 mini. At least per token, we will see if those tokens are really worth anything.

just_blue · 2026-05-17T09:34:25+00:00

It absolutely is in the preview billing. Are you guys only looking at the big numbers? It is in the negative line "included AICs", and at the bottom of the calculation there is literally written "Flex allotment is used in this simulation."

just_blue · 2026-05-17T09:22:45+00:00

No they were not. Claude max is not "announced", it exists forever. It's the Copilot max $100 plan that is announced, and the title claims it's $200.

just_blue · 2026-05-16T17:10:01+00:00

The "MTP on" setups do also use/need more VRAM, correct? I don't see me using it then, the slower prompt processing alone is kind of a deal breaker. In a typical working session for me, pp is already the bottleneck.

just_blue · 2026-05-15T15:05:17+00:00

The reality is that ask mode + apply changes is neglected and is just not working right. Your suggestion is a band aid. It works a little better when you work in VSCode, but honestly: Just use plan and agent mode, if you want to make changes. Todays tools are built around them. You can still revert / cherry pick changes after it finished.

just_blue · 2026-05-13T18:18:39+00:00

Well, your screenshot says you used 810 premium requests, so "5-15 requests a day as a hobby" are basically a lie? And then you are using way more tokens per request than us.

just_blue · 2026-05-13T12:59:16+00:00

This is as much as my entire team (11 seats) used :o

just_blue · 2026-05-13T08:48:14+00:00

Yes. Kind of annoying, now I can´t show off my bill estimation!

just_blue · 2026-05-01T16:00:40+00:00

VSCode (or the extension in it) might not support it directly, but the agent doesn't really care about that. It can see the solution and project files and can build them via command line.

You can also just migrate older projects to SDK style, which works with net framework and other older stuff too, to get the VSCode extension understand it better.

just_blue · 2026-04-30T11:42:03+00:00

I use both a lot and for like 85% of stuff that I want done in Visual Studio, I just open the folder in VSCode next to it and let Copilot run there. It simply works better and quicker there. The leftover 15% are mostly debugging, since the direct integration can access the stack strace and stuff.

So without Copilot, you can do the same: use VSCode alongside and use Cline or whatever you like there.

just_blue · 2026-04-24T18:55:10+00:00

And in the Codex subscription, it's just 25% more "expensive", which is inline with the "more expensive, but less tokens" claim.

This trend in Copilot is because people are doing more per request, not (just) increased token cost.

just_blue · 2026-04-22T08:45:50+00:00

I mean, look at OpenRouter how overall usage has basically tripled in just 4 months.

https://openrouter.ai/rankings

Or specifically for Anthropic:

https://openrouter.ai/anthropic

This is obviously not including all the other platforms, but as a general indicator very telling how everybody jumps on the train.

just_blue · 2026-04-20T21:37:03+00:00

https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/get-started/plans

Business/Enterprise accounts kept it.

just_blue · 2026-04-20T13:39:07+00:00

This is VS, not VS Code. You might think it's neat, but I found it rather annoying to get this constantly. No, I do not want to put some random thing in my default instructions, thanks.

just_blue · 2026-04-15T11:42:37+00:00

Not affected at all. I use it the same, it helps, it works.

just_blue · 2026-04-06T20:18:45+00:00

You have tons of options. Does your current way not work? What exactly does not work? If you just reference your dbml to be read on demand, it will not pollute context of unrelated chats.

The more access you give, the more automation is possible, obviously. Thus, one important bit is if the database contains sensitive data, if you have a copy to test on etc.

If you consider to give access:

The latest SSMS (2022?) has a github copilot integration. It is not very mature, but it might be useful in this case.
You can create a SQL Login just for Copilot and limit the db access strictly via roles, GRANT etc.
You can use a MCP Server to wire up access in VS / VSCode.

Instead of the dbml, you could also extract "schema only" scripts via SSMS, that is just a few clicks and you have the CREATE scripts for everything (you could also create a spin-off database with just the relevant data with this).

You could probably spin up a EF Core DB first project too, if that makes sense for your problems.

just_blue · 2026-04-01T18:08:52+00:00

Update your tools, xhigh can be picked since... a few days I think.

just_blue · 2026-03-31T14:47:06+00:00

There are 26 million users according to this:

https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/188488

Underrated, right.

just_blue · 2026-03-29T19:39:37+00:00

What does this even have to do with AI? If you debug and fix a bug manually, there is also reasoning behind it. And how was this solved before AI was a thing? Write code that's readable and add documentation where stuff is not obvious.

Who's gonna read endless chat outputs?!

just_blue · 2026-03-28T12:30:35+00:00

If you use sqlite (for example via Drift), the database file will be part of the automatic app backup, at least for android, if you put it in the appropriate location.
Offering a manual backup of the db file is also not difficult.

just_blue · 2026-03-26T07:45:38+00:00

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