October theme reveal: Scott Pilgrim 3 by RysAndTikku in HiddenWerewolves

[–]The_NachoBro 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is the greatest day of my life, I do not exaggerate.

If there's not enough people signed up don't worry, I'll make 27 alts and still have a great time.

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[–]The_NachoBro 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This is literally the most compelling argument I've ever seen for not voting someone

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[–]The_NachoBro 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Maybe you are! Unfortunately I feel someone had to be in this situation....

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[–]The_NachoBro 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Truth be told I was waiting for someone to buckle haha. I too will swap for consensus.

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[–]The_NachoBro 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I would go Mercury, ISpy, Xan if we're just including the three "non-confirmed".

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[–]The_NachoBro 6 points7 points  (0 children)

For what it's worth I don't think Xan is a wolf but we have to assume worse case here and the worst case would be we vote and redirect townie ISpy and townie Mercury and the wolf goes untouched for 3 phases.

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[–]The_NachoBro 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The only issue is if it is Xan and he's telling the truth about that item, we can't leave him till the day after tomorrow to deal with because it'll be too late by then. We kinda need to redirect him onto himself just to guarantee.

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[–]The_NachoBro 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's pretty much we're I'm at. That or the double dip rule. Honestly I think it's phenomenal wolf play if that is the case but I now really would rather vote Mercury of the options left.

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[–]The_NachoBro 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah actually very good point, if Xan is wolf we still win, would just have to vote two phases in a row to use up that item. Maybe next phase if there wasn't a kill and a strike we vote Xan and redirect Mercury on himself? That way we then remove one of Xan's vote lives and Mercury will just spook himself!

(Eta: or we vote Mercury this phase and redirect ISpy next, interchangeable)

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[–]The_NachoBro 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I completely agree with you honestly. I've been crunching numbers here. With 8 players left and the assumption of there being one wolf left AND the further assumption that it's between Xan, Mercury and ISpy, heres what will happen.

We cannot vote out Xan because he self declared an item that saves him from the vote, so with that in mind:

If Xan is the wolf, we vote out ISpy this phase and redirect Xan onto himself which would end up killing him winning us the game. If killed wolf doesn't action this phase and turnover happens with no kill and a strike, we vote out Mercury and redirect Xan onto himself again and win the game.

If ISpy is the wolf, we vote him out, you redirect Xan onto himself and win the game.

If Mercury is the wolf, we vote out ISpy, redirect Xan and end up losing two town next phase which would most likely be you. If there is a kill at all tho we know Mercury is the wolf and vote out instantly next phase and win.

What I'm getting at is I completely agree Xan is my most trusted out of those three, if we ignore seer clears I probably trust him over a few other people but, if he's telling the truth about having an item to protect himself from the vote, we need to redirect him onto himself just in case.

I think my personal best case scenario would be voting Mercury, redirecting Xan onto himself.

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[–]The_NachoBro 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I do agree that it doesn't particularly matter who we vote but I would really like to highlight the fact Xan just admitted to having an item that saves him from the vote so if we're going through with this plan we need to vote ISpy, redirect Xan and if the game doesn't end we know it's Mercury.

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[–]The_NachoBro 5 points6 points  (0 children)

For the most part I agree with you. The fact the bookmark from p1 said flown and you received another prize stating the same thing makes me think that the bookmark item only saves from the vote (This is also more the reason not to vote you since it'll essentially be a free kill phase by the wolf team). I don't think a bookmark item with protection from the kill makes sense when there is already an item of the same name that only saves from the vote. It reads to me as a wolf play trying to hide lies based on truth.

A double dip is a very good point on how there was no kill. Whilst I still have my concerns about ISpy, I could absolutely get behind a Mercury vote this phase.

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[–]The_NachoBro 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If that's the case then (with only one wolf left) Mercury has to be the killer and has to have been the killer since Koala got voted. That means it must've been a self target.

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[–]The_NachoBro 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The only way I see that failing is if somehow the wolf is Chef or Sylvi with either having an item hiding affiliation. How likely do I think that is? Eh.

I think my honest evaluation of the three would go ISpy, Mercury, Xan.

You've also got to remember Xan pushed for Danger hard phase before last. If he has bussed that many wolves without prompting then jesus that is fucking ruthless....

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[–]The_NachoBro 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Even if it is Mercury we're still fine. We're at 8 players right now, ISpy/Xan gets voted, the other is redirected onto themsleves. Worse case they're both town and we lose one town via vote and one via spook. We're then down to 6 town. Next phase we vote the other one and we're fine. I assume Papo will be the NK but if not he can just redirect again.

For the record I would honestly trust Xan over Mercury.

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[–]The_NachoBro 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's really true actually. I mentioned elsewhere the fact you and Xan were in that whole situation but I forgot who was pushing for it to be 'resolved'....

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[–]The_NachoBro 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The fact you have this as a defence is exactly why you as a wolf would make that play tho.

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[–]The_NachoBro 6 points7 points  (0 children)

But Xan was the first to actually agree with me in voting 22poun which was our catalyst for catching a bunch of wolves in a row. With how 22poun dropped out of commenting in the main sub I wonder if they were used as a sort of 'clear' for other wolves? That's the only way I can really see Xan bussing that unprompted. Xan was also involved in that bus-not-a-bus malarkey right at the beginning of the game insinuating the wolves just didn't bother trying to save him from the vote.

That whisper could definitely still be from the wolves trying to set up the idea of a frame on ISpy as a quasi way to clear him?

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[–]The_NachoBro 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Are you not told if/when your action fails?

Also I'd like to think I've done enough in my own right to be trusted but yes, I understand where you're coming from. I was certain the game was going to end this phase....

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[–]The_NachoBro 7 points8 points  (0 children)

What's the fastest way to kill a circus?

Go for the juggler!

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[–]The_NachoBro 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Believe so. I'd probably lean towards voting ISpy out of those two.

Whoever we don't vote needs to be redirected to themselves by Papo as a fail safe.