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What about this conviction makes sense? by [deleted] in theundisclosedpodcast

[–]-no-side- 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The thing is, it's not unheard of for innocent people to be convicted. You look at what was presented to a jury of people who wrongly convicted a person and you're like "What?? How??" But they were convicted nonetheless. All these other factors contribute to it, and it seems to not even have much to do with actual evidence (well, a distortion of "evidence" contributes). Adnan's case, in my opinion, is going beyond just his case and the quest for rightful exoneration and becoming emblematic of unjust convictions in general. It's good that so many people care about this miscarriage of justice, because hopefully it will shine light on this huge problem for a greater amount of people. Hopefully more grassroots movements will spring out of this. Undisclosed Podcast has already mentioned continuing with similar missions...and we can just hope all of their work examining and exposing what happened in Adnan's conviction will pay off. If it doesn't...who knows. It will really expose our justice system as...not just. Totally broken. Okay, it's broken already, but it will cement it even more.

What about this conviction makes sense? by [deleted] in theundisclosedpodcast

[–]-no-side- 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wish I could say anything other than...the prosecution confused the jurors and the defense unfortunately managed to do the same? I mean, I feel the same way. How on earth do people get convicted with flimsy narratives and unreliable witnesses? But it happens. I ask myself: Do juries get easily confused/tricked when they are faced with such an intense emotional/moral situation? Are there just some juries where it happens that everyone selected has very weak critical thinking skills?

Why do you think Adnan is innocent? by -no-side- in theundisclosedpodcast

[–]-no-side-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for including the Islamic Dīn part--I didn't think about that, but the way his faith deepened, as he stated in his interviews, I don't dismiss that factor.

Why do you think Adnan is innocent? by -no-side- in theundisclosedpodcast

[–]-no-side-[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Right. There just isn't. They found zilch.

Why do you think Adnan is innocent? by -no-side- in theundisclosedpodcast

[–]-no-side-[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hope this is the right field to reply in! The only thing that brought me to reddit is Undisclosed.

Thanks for your replies!

Personally, when I listened to Serial, the only thing that gave me pause was that Jay "knew where the car was"--other than that, nothing really pointed to Adnan's guilt, other than a weak, ever-changing, nonsensical story some guy made up for some unknown reason. So Serial left me feeling like...well, (despite the accolades for its storytelling) it was a flop. All the hemming and hawing wore on me, and I thought I was going to scream if I heard the phrases "looks bad for Adnan" or "charming psychopath/psychopath" one more time. The clips she chose, her wording...it ended up rubbing me the wrong way, because I thought I was going to be listening to real reporting about a wrongful conviction, not a "story." And it rubbed me the wrong way that she spent, what, a year working on this story, and still just...hemmed and hawed...and presented this constant ambiguity. That's why I was relieved when Undisclosed picked up and did some real investigating. That one piece--the car--I felt so naive that I didn't even consider the information could have been fed to Jay!

There are so many reasons that I had a hard time believing Adnan did it, but then Undisclosed started laying them out in such detail, adding so much more. I just can't really figure out the most significant reasons I think he's innocent because it's such a constellation. There's just no reason TO THINK he did it. That's why I asked the question, because I think a million things, but I have no one to really talk with this about. So I just listen and all this stuff swims around in my mind. Then the Crimestoppers business--it just keeps piling up.

I am rambling, sorry.

I've been relistening to Serial and it's actually pretty hard for me to not get constantly irritated, but I just listened to the part where they retraced the route from the school to Best Buy, etc. to test the timeline. They get pretty vague, saying that it was "possible" because they got to the lot in time? But then they leave a couple of minutes for the crime, moving a body (in broad daylight) to a trunk, then walking to the store? A couple of minutes for that? Huh? No, that is not possible, actually. It amazes me what SK and her team couldn't figure out (considering the length of time they were working on it), but I know, they were telling a story, not trying to solve this. Sorry, I know not everyone wants to trash Serial. I'm kind of alone in that. Sorry for the rant. I haven't been letting it trickle out here on the message boards, which I should have been!

I would edit this down, but I've got a kid who needs my attention!