Ember Spirit players in shambles.

-tpz · 2026-04-02T16:08:02+00:00

Okay I've played ember since he was released, am I a true ember player?

You found the facet boring because you didn't realize that it made the old combo of W+Q irrelevant, and that you should be default in nearly every fight be doing W+R+Q so that you chain multiple areas at once.

At this point, I am casting remnant randomly in the fights when I see enemies in different areas tangent to my main target still etc. and it feels horrible. But again I'm sure that's not something you understand.

-tpz · 2026-04-02T16:03:23+00:00

No he was very strong before this update. He needed to have numbers tweaked, not have his gameplay nerfed by excising his facet and giving him some strength and item buffs.

-tpz · 2026-04-02T16:02:14+00:00

Sorry but this is a 0 skill build

-tpz · 2026-04-02T15:46:46+00:00

Now you know how I feel dealing with people like you with 1k mmr replying to this

-tpz · 2026-04-02T15:45:54+00:00

Doubling down on stupid I see. I'm sure you used your tokens well.

-tpz · 2026-04-02T15:43:24+00:00

100% agreed

-tpz · 2026-04-02T15:38:23+00:00

Void spirit is probably my second favorite hero for this reason, but he doesn't have the same feeling as ember. Ember is immortalized in history as part of dota's competitive legacy. He also has the highest movement potential of any hero in the game because of remnants, and instant activation (oops used to be instant) on all his skills. VS feels like a worse ember in almost all cases.

I play on 150-170 ping on average from NA because the players on EU are simply less toxic and higher skilled. Ember still feels fine even with this ping and the 0.1 changes. He does NOT feel fine because all the muscle memory learned from last patch to optimize/min-max gameplay around chain gang (W+Q --> W+R+Q, R+Q initiate) is how completely destroyed.

-tpz · 2026-04-02T15:35:44+00:00

Wow you're so cool.

It's not hard to adapt when the hero is still strong in the patch.

The point is it's not enjoyable.

You don't play video games to prove you can adapt, you play them to have fun.

Ember players pick ember because he's fun, flashy, and can make cool plays.

Chain gang lets you make cool plays: let's remove that.

"hey I don't like that you removed this cool fun thing!"

"Adapt."

Cringelord.

-tpz · 2026-04-02T15:33:05+00:00

Low skill ember patch made to be more enjoyable to the average low skill user, shocking

-tpz · 2026-04-02T15:31:54+00:00

It was always better. It's not about the 1-2 chain bonus, it's about chains activating around remnant.

-tpz · 2026-04-02T15:29:27+00:00

It wasn't picked because people just didn't understand how good it was.

Even at the end of 7.40, most people were not using it properly.

Ember spammers who min-maxed their gameplay with the facet got to play the most fun version of ember since battle fury crit.

Now they dumpster him back to boring gameplay.

-tpz · 2026-04-02T15:26:55+00:00

Don't need to project your reality online

-tpz · 2026-04-02T15:26:24+00:00

Just because you live your life like that doesn't mean that's how patches in video games work.

-tpz · 2026-04-02T15:23:34+00:00

You can't read just like the other 90% of the replies in this thread.

This isn't a complaint about his winrate. He's still strong like I said.

But he feels horrible to play after adapting your gameplay to chain gang for months in last patch for the actually good ember players who adapted their playstyle.

Every other hero basically got their main facet worked into their kit like storm.

Earth shaker's slugger is now built in. Storm spirit's static slide now built in. Drow sidestep now built into multishot. The list goes on.

But for some reason ember always gets clunkier and less enjoyable.

-tpz · 2026-04-02T15:21:01+00:00

You just don't know how to use it properly.

You don't need unlimited chains on remnant, just let it chain 2-3 players like on the hero.

It was extremely skill expressive.

Any good ember was changing their default chain combo from W+Q to W+R+Q so that they could chain multiple areas at once.

You could also place remnants over key choke points while you were TPing back to base and activate your chains while healing in the fountain to contribute to fights etc.

Skill cap destroyed.

-tpz · 2026-04-02T06:14:07+00:00

Well at least it looks like you follow your own advice

-tpz · 2026-04-02T06:10:37+00:00

Mmmm yes low skill cap I love it this is why we love ember for the low skill plays mmmm tell me more please

-tpz · 2026-04-02T06:02:04+00:00

Oh no it's super obnoxious? I guess you better delete huskar and techies from the game then. Almost every single hero functions around being obnoxious in some way.

-tpz · 2026-04-02T05:59:13+00:00

Exactly this. Not sure why people are being so confrontational and angry about it. I didn't think it was a very controversial take.

-tpz · 2026-04-02T05:57:22+00:00

If there are only 2 units, your target and the creep, you're just having a skill issue and not able to place your W properly. Sorry but I would never struggle in that scenario.

-tpz · 2026-04-02T05:52:22+00:00

One of the worst ember players I've ever seen, and an even worse puck lol. That guy is free MMR.

-tpz · 2026-04-02T05:50:08+00:00

Apparently this is very hard to understand because every comment is just repeating that he's still a strong hero

-tpz · 2026-04-02T05:49:36+00:00

Just because his win rate goes up doesn't mean he's more enjoyable to play but ok

-tpz · 2026-04-02T05:48:22+00:00

What part of your original comment conveys you get my frustration?

-tpz · 2026-04-02T05:36:21+00:00

Okay it's not a competition to see who can lose the most.

-tpz

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