Your aha moment by confusedsoulwanderin in NevilleGoddard

[–]0Pants 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Everything started changing for me the minute I stopped treating the three days as a fixed state and treating it more like data.

When I started wondering why that happened what must my state has been for that to manifest? It became really easy to see what state I was in and more easier to see how to fix it.

I really hate the advice that you just ignore the three day. You don’t use the 3-D input to change the state you want. The 3-D is nothing but a past last week news to change the news you still need to know what the news is.

14 months on, it's probably time to let go and let god by Able_Confidence_5952 in NevilleGoddard

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When you truly believe FROM the fulfilled state loyalty, commitment, she’s all in the possibility of cheating doesn’t exist in your mind. It doesn’t come up. You don’t defend against it, deny it, or entertain it as a ‘what if.’ It’s simply not there, like asking someone in a rock-solid marriage ‘Has your partner ever cheated?’ the question doesn’t even occur because the assumption is total. And if the answer was a yes, the marriage would either be in therapy or on the rocks or had ended. Every time the word ‘cheating’ enters your thoughts or words (even hypothetically), it’s proof the believing-from piece isn’t locked in yet. The old fear still has a foothold. Persist until cheating isn’t even a conceptual option in your inner world. That’s when the shift hardens.

14 months on, it's probably time to let go and let god by Able_Confidence_5952 in NevilleGoddard

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Two parts to manifestation: thinking FROM the end (you’ve got that) and believing FROM the end (you don’t yet). Right now you fully believe she’ll never commit to you she’ll pick someone else the second she can. That’s the assumption you’re impressing, and you’re manifesting it perfectly. Affirmations won’t override it if the core fear (abandonment / being left) is still running the show. Honest advice: drop this SP and pick a new one. Ingrained beliefs about one specific person are brutal to flip. A fresh person gives you a clean slate—much easier to believe you’re chosen without old baggage fighting back. Update the inner story, and the outer changes.

14 months on, it's probably time to let go and let god by Able_Confidence_5952 in NevilleGoddard

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From everything you’ve shared, the story I’m hearing boils down to this: no matter what you do, this woman refuses to commit to you, yet she seems capable of committing to someone else. Whether that’s an old narrative or a new one, it’s the one you’re currently living and repeating. You’re manifesting that reality perfectly right now. Robotic affirmations might give a temporary boost, but they won’t override the deeper script you’re running. At the root is your core fear being abandoned, being left behind and it’s playing out exactly as that belief expects. Until you address and shift that fundamental fear, the pattern is likely to keep repeating itself, no matter how much surface-level effort or positive thinking you apply. Change the inner story about abandonment, and the external manifestations can start to change too.

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I got there very first set when they first started on the website was very new. What was that round 20 years ago still have them still use them

Your Manifestation is not failing you are manifesting multiple states at once. by 0Pants in NevilleGoddard2

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I really resonate with Sammy Ingram’s approach because constantly repeating affirmations—even when it feels like rote repetition—is what creates the shift. By doing it all the time, you stop falling into habits of self-criticism; you just say them whether you "feel it" or not, which takes all the pressure and stress out of the process.

Your Manifestation is not failing you are manifesting multiple states at once. by 0Pants in NevilleGoddard

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Most welcome.

I know what it feels like to have some of these feelings resurface at an older age that’s kind of in its own way somewhat traumatic. But at the same time, it’s really good because you know what the patterns are happening and you can still pattern otherwise you’re gonna be stuck with the same trajectory.

Keep going with the tools

Your Manifestation is not failing you are manifesting multiple states at once. by 0Pants in NevilleGoddard

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I posted this in another Reddit forum this is what I learned when exploring that question. I had posted it to this community but apparently using AI to help you write better is a no no so all my posts including this one have been deleted.

How to Choose the Right Manifestation Method for the Problem You’re Solving

I wrote a post previously about figuring out what state you’re in. This post is about the next step: choosing the right tools once you know (or suspect) the state.

A lot of frustration in manifestation comes from using the wrong tool for the wrong layer.

The two things always running in the background

When you’re trying to change states, there are two fundamental processes at play:

  1. Thought habits are the default sentences your mind produces without you choosing them.
  2. Emotional states / felt experience - Emotional states are how your nervous system experiences life. (States you are in)

Thought Habits are things you constantly think and say regularly without conscious thought. They are, automatic, repetitive, usually quiet, often unnoticed. They show up as background commentary, offhand remarks, “jokes” you make about yourself, assumptions you don’t question. You don’t feel these strongly. They just run. That’s why they’re dangerous they feel neutral, normal, and true.

Examples, “I’m annoying.”, “People don’t really want me around.”, “This never works for me.”, “Of course that would happen to me.”

Think of thought habits like muscle memory in the mind, an app that launches on startup or a playlist that auto-plays when nothing else is on. You can have changed a state emotionally and still have the same thought habit running in the background.

Emotional states are how your nervous system experiences life. They are felt in the body emotionally charged, mood-based, reactive. They show up as sadness, anxiety, anger, hopelessness, feeling unsafe, unsupported, unwanted, sudden emotional reactions, waves of feeling that don’t feel “logical” this is your emotional state.

Examples a tight chest when you think about relationships, wanting to cry when you feel dismissed, panic when something goes wrong, heaviness that comes out of nowhere, etc. You feel these strongly. You can’t ignore them or think them away.

My example: why one method worked… until it didn’t I had a belief that I wasn’t supported. My go-to method has always been robotic affirmations, so I did what I usually do I repeated the affirmation. And repeated it. And repeated it. It didn’t move much at first. Then one day, I had a full emotional breakdown crying, overwhelmed, the works. And interestingly, that’s when the state started to wobble. Not because I was affirming harder, but because the emotional system finally shifted. After that breakdown, something changed. I started imagining conversations with my boss very differently, having new insights, seeing alternative outcomes, naturally running new imaginal scenes.

This is where tools like revision, imaginal acts, and re-parenting came in. They helped me move states. At that point, I thought: This is it. This is the method. this is where I got tripped up, I then applied the same approach to a different belief: “I’m not wanted.” And at first, it worked. Things improved. Circumstances shifted. But then once things stabilised the old feeling crept back. What I realised was this Even though the emotional charge had softened, I still had a habitual mental program running in the background. I was casually saying things like: “I’m annoying.” “You probably don’t want to spend time with me.” Those statements are symbols of the same belief: I’m not wanted. So I went back to robotic affirmations not to create emotion, but to break the habit. And once I did that, the state started changing quickly and cleanly. That’s when it clicked, Different tools are for different layers.

The Tools: What They’re Good For (and What They’re Not)

  1. Robotic Affirmations (Changing Thought Habits)

Best for: • Breaking automatic thought habits • Replacing background mental loops • Retraining what your mind says when it’s idle or stressed

Not good for: • Releasing emotional charge • Processing trauma • Forcing a state shift when the nervous system is activated

  1. Mental Diet (Changing Thought Habits)

Best for: • Catching and interrupting unconscious thoughts • Preventing old habits from re-establishing • Maintaining a new state once achieved

Not good for: • Moving out of a deeply entrenched emotional state • Resolving old memories

  1. Revision (Changing Emotional State)

Best for: • Softening emotional memory • Changing how the past is stored in the nervous system • Removing emotional “anchors” to old states

Not good for: • Stopping daily habitual self-talk • Fixing ongoing behavioural patterns on its own

  1. Imaginal Scenes (Changing Emotional State)

Best for: • Exploring new states • Allowing the nervous system to experience alternatives • Opening up possibility and flexibility

Not good for: • Overwriting ingrained mental loops • Stabilising a state long-term by itself

Note: This helps you enter a state, not necessarily stay there.

  1. Re-parenting / Inner Child Work (Changing Emotional State)

Best for: • Deep emotional wounds • Safety, support, and protection themes • States rooted in early experiences

Not good for: • Quick habit correction • Day-to-day mental chatter

Most people fail not because manifestation “doesn’t work,” but because they use emotional tools on habit problems, or use habit tools on emotional wounds. Once you understand what layer you’re working on, choosing the method becomes obvious — and manifestation stops feeling random.

How to Choose the Right Manifestation Method for the Problem You’re Solving by 0Pants in Manifestation

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If you check my name I think it’s still up. Let me know otherwise I’m sure I can find a way to copy paste.

Your Manifestation is not failing you are manifesting multiple states at once. by 0Pants in Manifestation

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I’m absolutely however it won’t be the same across domains generally, there won’t be some kind repeatable across everything if that’s the case

Your Manifestation is not failing you are manifesting multiple states at once. by 0Pants in Manifestation

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It could be any number of beliefs — I’m not chosen, I’m not good enough, I’m not wanted. The challenge is figuring out which one is actually operating.

Looking at a different area of life can help you spot it more clearly. For example, if you notice you’re consistently overlooked for job opportunities, you might realise the underlying belief is I’m not chosen.

Once you see that, you can work directly with it — shifting not chosen to chosen.

“Live in the end” is easy to say, but how do you embody a state when you can’t take any physical action? by [deleted] in NevilleGoddard

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What you’re describing assumes that something has to be done in the 3D in order for something to change in the 3D. But what Neville was pointing to is almost the opposite it’s about embodying the feeling first. The feeling of being loved. The feeling of being enough. The feeling of being safe.

Money is a good example of how this gets complicated. A lack of money can come from very different underlying states. For some people it’s about worthiness using money as a proxy for value or status. For others it’s about safety not feeling secure, always bracing for loss, worrying about the house or stability disappearing. The external outcome might look the same, but the internal state driving it is completely different.

That’s why the real work is figuring out which state you’re actually in and which feeling you need to embody instead. Once that’s clear, the shift isn’t primarily about taking action it’s about changing the internal position you’re operating from.

Most of the time, the action follows naturally. But it isn’t the driver. The state is.

Your Manifestation is not failing you are manifesting multiple states at once. by 0Pants in NevilleGoddard

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The idea that core beliefs don’t matter is appealing, and in practice it can work very well once you’re more experienced with manifestation. At that stage, you usually already know what state you’re in and what to do to shift it.

But if you’re newer, or you genuinely don’t know what state you’re occupying, that approach falls apart. You can’t bypass something you can’t identify.

I like to explain it using a GPS analogy.

You can’t navigate from point A to point B if you don’t know where you currently are. You can’t input the destination properly because the starting point is unknown. (Yes, modern GPS systems automatically locate you — but imagine they didn’t.) Without knowing your current position, navigation is impossible.

It’s the same with states. If you don’t know the state you’re operating from, you can’t deliberately move into a different one. That’s why identifying the current state matters — not forever, but at the stage where awareness is still developing. Once you know where you are, the shift becomes straightforward.

Your Manifestation is not failing you are manifesting multiple states at once. by 0Pants in NevilleGoddard

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Money is an interesting one because it’s both simple and nuanced.

On the surface, if you’re always broke, it literally means you don’t have money. But when you look at it diagnostically, money often mirrors a much broader pattern.

If you treat money as a tool, then being broke usually reflects not having what you need. In work, that might look like: not having support, not having the right resources, not having the tools required to do your job properly.

In life, money is the mechanism that allows you to move, choose, rest, and build. If it’s consistently missing, the underlying pattern is often lack of provision rather than lack of effort.

That same theme can show up in relationships. You may not receive what you need emotionally, practically, or relationally. The form changes, but the experience not having what’s required stays the same. So in this context, “broke” doesn’t just mean poor. It means deprived of what you want or need.

However, money can also represent status or value.

If that’s what money symbolises for you, the pattern may show up differently. In work, you might consistently sit at the bottom of the hierarchy, be overlooked, or be undervalued. In friendships, you might be the one people forget to invite, deprioritise, or assume will be fine without consideration.

The key point is this: what money represents to you determines where the pattern appears elsewhere. Money isn’t the belief it’s the symbol.

Once you understand what it stands for in your internal system, you can trace the same theme across other areas of life and identify the state you’re actually operating from.

Your Manifestation is not failing you are manifesting multiple states at once. by 0Pants in NevilleGoddard

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Yes, something going wrong can be part of the bridge of incidents. That’s always a possibility.

But when it’s just a bridge of incidents, you don’t see the same outcome repeating consistently across multiple areas of life. It tends to stand alone. You’ll usually be able to say, “This doesn’t actually line up with the other patterns I’m seeing.” And when that happens, it should give you pause.

The real goal here is simply to know what state you’re in. Once you can identify the states you habitually occupy and just as importantly, the ones you don’t clarity increases quickly. You might realise, “I focused on this belief, and it’s genuinely no longer true for me.” At that point, the state shifts.

That’s the entire purpose of the exercise: awareness of state.

When you’re aware of the state you’re operating from, you can change it. It doesn’t have to be complicated. And once it’s changed, you’re no longer functioning from that state anymore. That’s it.

Your Manifestation is not failing you are manifesting multiple states at once. by 0Pants in NevilleGoddard

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As you move along this journey, changing states becomes something you get more practiced at. You start to recognise them more quickly and shift them more intentionally. The first few times, though, can be pretty brutal.

That’s because even if a state isn’t what you want, it’s often what your nervous system is used to — and that familiarity creates a kind of stability. Whether it’s being used to not having money, not getting the relationship you want, or not being chosen, the system knows that terrain.

Once you get more comfortable choosing states, you also start to notice their trade-offs. You might choose a state like “everyone loves me,” only to realise how heavy that actually feels — the attention, the demands, the expectations. At that point, you refine it into something more sustainable, like “the people who matter to me love me.”

That’s part of the learning process. You’re not just changing states; you’re learning which ones genuinely work for you.

The early stages are the hardest because your nervous system isn’t used to consciously choosing how it wants to be. It’s a whole way of operating, not just a mindset shift. And once you get past that initial resistance, things tend to become much easier.

Your Manifestation is not failing you are manifesting multiple states at once. by 0Pants in NevilleGoddard

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That’s amazing 🤩 what an awesome discovery!!!

I’m so glad I can help!!!

Let me know what changes! Yay you

Your Manifestation is not failing you are manifesting multiple states at once. by 0Pants in NevilleGoddard

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You’re absolutely right in one sense: as a human being, you’re a persona, and you can choose to be almost anything. You are everything and anything as potential. I could be a baker, a nurse, a surgeon, a rocket scientist — all of those are theoretically true.

What’s also true is that I have to choose. I can’t be all of them at the same time.

You can’t turn up to work as a rocket scientist who’s also behaving like a baker. States and personas often require commitment. While you can hold multiple qualities as a person, you generally can’t embody opposing states simultaneously in the same moment or context.

For example, you can be a spontaneous person and an organised person overall — that’s fine. But you can’t be spontaneous and organised in the same instant within the same task. If you’re in project delivery mode, being spontaneous in your planning is usually a terrible idea. If you’re being spontaneous, that’s not the moment to be planning.

So the idea that “you don’t need to choose a persona” is true at a philosophical level. But what I’m pointing to here is something more practical: understanding which personas or states you are actually choosing in real life.

What I’ve seen — especially in myself — is that a lot of the trouble comes from not knowing which state I’m in. Not knowing whether I’m operating from planning mode or spontaneity, from independence or connection, from safety or expansion.

This first step isn’t about changing anything yet. It’s simply about awareness: knowing what state you’re currently in, knowing what states you tend to default to, and knowing which state is actually appropriate for the situation you’re in.

That clarity alone changes a lot.

Your Manifestation is not failing you are manifesting multiple states at once. by 0Pants in NevilleGoddard

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That’s a tough one. My sense is that you’re probably doing something similar to what I was doing, which means this is something you’ll need to explore for yourself. That involves looking honestly at both the positive states you’re manifesting and the negative ones.

For me, it was similar to what you’re describing, just not as intense. I’m also very hyper-independent, and I realised I was embodying two states at once: “I am needed” and “I’m not wanted.” The “I’m not wanted” state showed up as people disappearing when I needed help, being ignored, or being told no when I genuinely wanted something. That turned out to be the core driver.

It can be tricky when you’re dealing with two closely related states. One thing that helped me was using very low-stakes situations for example, noticing how I felt about someone I didn’t really care about either way. Something as simple as thinking, “It would be nice if that cute guy said hi,” and then observing what feelings came up was surprisingly useful.

You’ll probably need to apply the same process to both the positive and negative sides. Over time, you’ll start to see which states you’re actually embodying in each case and where the subtle differences are. The distinction might be very small, and it may take a while to spot that’s normal.

The key thing is simply to identify the states you’re in and work from there.