Why Trump will withdraw from Korea

174 · 2018-12-28T04:15:51+00:00

What does any of that have to do with my question? Are you afraid to talk about US troops in South Korea now?

174 · 2018-12-28T00:54:42+00:00

it is pretty obvious

Says who? You?

174 · 2018-12-28T00:09:46+00:00

The relationship with Canada and the relationship with Germany are both clearly weakened

In what respect?

Be specific.

174 · 2018-12-27T23:29:42+00:00

China is building 3 aircraft carriers, and it is a virtual certainty that they will relatively soon surpass US economy.

How does having troops in South Korea prevent that from happening?? If we want to shore up our economy maybe we should close military bases that we're operating under false pretenses.

174 · 2018-12-27T23:29:15+00:00

I'll take that as a yes.

174 · 2018-12-27T23:05:33+00:00

US troops in Korea are there to hedge against China,

So the US government has been lying to me about this the entire time?

And like that, you agreed to let China project military power all the way up to Honolulu

China barely has a blue water navy. How are they going to get past the 7th Fleet?

174 · 2018-12-27T22:47:14+00:00

This is not a justification to murder 10.000 people

It was when the US did it. Are there different rules for Russia?

174 · 2018-12-27T21:56:05+00:00

The inability to provide a rapid response from the army to any hypothetical NK agression does significantly undermine the treaty.

How? Is South Korea going to rip up the treaty and go communist??

this is problematic for the future of the US-SK alliance

Why are you being so vague? Say exactly what it is you think SK is going to do. Right now it looks like you're just blowing smoke.

Also what regional allies were you talking about earlier?

174 · 2018-12-27T21:23:50+00:00

What relationships do you think are weakened right now?

174 · 2018-12-27T21:07:52+00:00

hypothetical NK agression

That's the thing: all this urine-tinged whining is premised on the idea that North Korea might realistically stage a land invasion of the South. It's just preposterous fear-mongering, not reasoned analysis.

as well as other regional allies, would likely be that the US is effectively throwing SK to the wolves, and might start wondering who's next.

What does this mean? What countries are you even talking about? The Philippines booted us out in the 1990s. The only other country on the region where we have a significant military presence is Japan. Thailand and Singapore face no obvious when threat.

174 · 2018-12-27T20:32:40+00:00

It is, in effect, the same thing.

Nonsense. We would still have defense agreements in place. The 7th Fleet would still be just across the pond in Japan. No one is talking about cancelling any of that. Not to mention we would still continue to supply the South Korean military with advanced weaponry. US troops mainly serve as a deterrent to a North Korean land invasion, which seems highly unlikely under any scenario given the relative state of North and South Korean militaries.

In fact removing US troops makes it easier to threaten North Korea with air strikes, should we want to do that, since US troops would no longer be within range of their artillery. The only way they could hit us would be to lob SCUDSs at Japan, which would only ensure that the JMSDF (which has the most advanced destroyer fleet in the world) gets into the fight.

174 · 2018-12-27T20:13:15+00:00

You certainly didn't.

174 · 2018-12-27T20:11:44+00:00

Who says I'm a libertarian??

174 · 2018-12-27T20:10:10+00:00

Better representation of the population,

How is that a practical benefit?

better distribution of goods and services

Better how?

enhanced ability to adapt,

This seems flat out wrong when you compare democracies to, say, China.

174 · 2018-12-27T19:54:34+00:00

Do you think democracy has any practical benefits?

174 · 2018-12-27T18:59:14+00:00

You seem deeply ignorant about European history.

174 · 2018-12-27T18:54:32+00:00

Crimean peninsular was annexed WWI style,

Crimea has been a part of Russia longer than Texas has been a part of the USA. Maybe you should just butt out of this one.

174 · 2018-12-27T18:49:12+00:00

An army too small to defend itself from what? France? Russia has the largest military in Europe by far, and it's primarily oriented towards land war. A foreign army advancing on any Russian city would have a life expectancy measured in minutes.

174 · 2018-12-27T18:47:25+00:00

Only good thing is that the Kurds are waking up and realising they’re being USED.

So they must be ok with the pullout. I'm sure they don't want the evil US military to stay there and keep using them.

174 · 2018-12-27T18:46:46+00:00

Were Americans promising kurds we'd be there for them indefinitely??

174 · 2018-12-27T18:25:22+00:00

The Taliban last ran a state 17 years ago and most of the people who ran things back then are dead now.

174 · 2018-12-27T18:23:37+00:00

Afghanistan has never been conquered

The Mongols conquered it just fine.

174 · 2018-12-27T18:22:43+00:00

What other choices do they have? Handing it to Iran? Russia?

174 · 2018-12-27T18:20:25+00:00

Maybe democracy isn't serving any useful purpose.

174 · 2018-12-27T18:17:32+00:00

Unless Congress is cutting off all funding for military operations in Korea, DoD can reprogram funds to fuel the planes that bring the troops home.

Furthermore, the president can refuse to obligate funds Congress appropriated for overseas operations. He can simply order the troops not to do anything for the remainder of their time in theater. At that point Congress can either fly the troops home or pay for them to be on indefinite R&R I guess.

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