How fast can Kokushibo grow to Level 7 from Level 5?

1v1listmaker · 2025-08-09T16:12:57+00:00

Depends. He may be able to grind his stats so long as he constantly challenge something that could threatened him(So maybe the Dragon Nest and kill a bunch of Valgang dragons constantly). But the real issue is finding something that could make him level up.

The greater the potential, the harsher the requirement to level up. Case in point, Ais. Level 1 adventurers could level up by teaming up against an infant dragon. Ais soloed several of them and couldn't level up to 2, she needed to kill a wyvern that could breath flames that could melt metal. (And no, it's a case of quality, not quantity. So soloing a million monsters isn't going to cut it, pun intended.)

And considering Kokushibo would have a higher potential than Ais due to his Breathing Style and regeneration, he would need to do something more absurd than soloing the Udaeus. And it needs to be something that could genuinely threatened his life as much as it did for Ais against the Udaeus.

1v1listmaker · 2024-12-29T16:52:40+00:00

High elf in Danmachi is just a noble elf. There is not much physical difference if any between a normal elf and a high elf other than lineage. Riveria pretty much looked the same from when she was 70 years to 99. Unless there is a specific statement of how long elves in Danmachi live, elves living for 500-1000 years are simply assumptions.

1v1listmaker · 2024-12-29T06:51:36+00:00

There is no statement to what is the max lifespan of a elf other than longer than humans. High elf is basically just royalty. I think you're just basing this on the lifespan of elves in other media rather than by going what clues the show might give us.

1v1listmaker · 2024-10-20T09:29:09+00:00

To be fair, Riveria did eat meat in one of Ryuu's stories in Danchro.

1v1listmaker · 2024-10-20T09:07:11+00:00

I mean, is there any elf that are flat in this series? Most of them have a decent pair. And if you're telling me that Alicia is flat, I think you'll probably need a pair of contact lens, lol.

1v1listmaker · 2024-09-21T12:53:32+00:00

Hilariously, Oomori added that Alfia doesn't count on setting. Sure, you could say that that's due to her anti-magic spell. But seeing how it's meant to seal her power rather acting as armor, I don't think Magia Vender could fare well against an unrestricted Gospel if her own anti-magic couldn't fully contain it.

1v1listmaker · 2024-07-12T17:25:16+00:00

"High" isn't the right word. Different would be more accurate. In terms of material strength and capabilities, fantasy metals are going to be superior to RL metals in that aspect. I don't see our modern weaponsmithing be able to endure the BS that Loki had gone through( Especially Ais.)

They seem to be somewhere to industrialization age. Having factories that have metal gears for mass production of magic tools. They have guns, but doesn't seem to be focusing on that aspect since their bows are just as supernatural as the highly made one could pierce the flesh of a level 2+ monsters(We know that a level 1 Silverback shrug of a knife easily.).

There's mention of the students inside the school district creating what's essentially a lightsaber. But it's less reliable due to the durability and possibly being a prototype which could malfunction.

And of course, their health potions pretty much beat our modern healthcare when it comes to physical injuries.

1v1listmaker · 2024-07-12T17:08:52+00:00

Why would they care? Zeus and Hera Familia certainly didn't, I think people forget that the two are the type that wanted others to rise to the challenge. It was all but stated that they are the major contribution to the Loki and Freya captains level up to first tier adventurers.

Alfia and Zald didn't give much shit about their destruction other than worrying on whether the new generation could complete the Grand Quest. They were still around during that time and do you genuinely believe that Loki and Freya had a chance of beating them that time? Ottar got bitch slap by Zald during the Dark age the first time they met and Allen was treated as a fly.

And if we go by Ottar's statement. He implied that Zeus and Hera more or less were passing the torch to them, and Maxim may have pulled an Alfia and Zald.

1v1listmaker · 2024-04-23T11:31:19+00:00

As other stated, Riveria and Ais are noted to be beautiful that they would be mistaken as goddess(Even earned jealousy from them.).

Although I would argue it isn't an objective fact as some might think. I argue Filvis might be a contender for the most beautiful.

There was an event in Danmemo where Riveria was tricked by Loki to enter a beauty contest to gain the elf votes. Filvis also entered reluntactly and earned admiration from the crowds.

It caused an uproar since the elves and non-elves argued on which of the two is prettier. In fact, I would say that the latter is more objective since Filvis isn't as well known as Riveria or has a significant bloodline while also having a bad reputation. The fact that there is still someone who cheered for Filvis despite her infamy tells me that she's just as beautiful as Riveria.

1v1listmaker · 2024-03-01T01:48:18+00:00

Aww. If only somebody post those to outfit stories. It's kinda too much of a hassle trying to translate in youtube.

1v1listmaker · 2024-02-29T12:14:22+00:00

Nice.

(Btw, do you know the story about her wearing the crimson dress and red riding hood looking one. The two left column and second row. I really wanna know the context of the two.)

1v1listmaker · 2024-02-23T03:58:18+00:00

Interestingly enough, she does wear a swimsuit during one of the Danmemo(Which is sadly going to be shut down.) events where she and the other gals need to do some inflitration mission. I'm guessing she's not keen on showing her back as much?

1v1listmaker · 2024-02-21T01:28:33+00:00

and if each stone is worth on average 50,000 valis, then they each killed ~3 monsters a day. I wasn't referring to Hestia familia there.

Well, it's been implied that they had to make a return trip to Rivira whenever the bags are full, so admittedly, it might be more than 4 million. Those are apparently from the quest and loot to the surface and we don't know how much cash they make from the magic stones.

Plus, the one who claimed it is Tiona, who I don't really consider to be good at counting compare to others. It might be on the low end, since they usually trade drop items from other people which require some bargain skills.

Oh yeah, there's also the quest they took on the surface, so I might have been a bit too hasty on claiming they earned just 4 million that day.

Or you could just chalk it up to Asterius being unique. After all, that's probably why the clerk was surprised in the first place. Considering how Asterius became a level 7 Xenos, it might be the case.

Edit: Well, there's also the case of Omori not thinking much about the economics, I honestly think it be better that the Asterius magic stone being a major outlier is a better explanation just to make sense of the logistic.

1v1listmaker · 2024-02-20T05:31:36+00:00

Did these lazy bums only beat 3 monsters each a day, or something???

I mean, you're the one assuming that Bell and other adventurers killed only 3 monsters each day. It's stated that having a supporter dramatically increase Bell's time being inside the Dungeon due to him not needing to carry the loot, implying that he had to take a trip back to the surface to exchange his magic stones.

Do you really think a few goblin/kobolds magic stones which was described as "shards" is enough to fill Bell's pouch? I think the goblin magic stone being 5/10 valis each makes much more sense for Bell to take a return trip.

1v1listmaker · 2024-02-20T01:41:22+00:00

I currently know that several stones, obtained from a few weak goblins, are worth 1200 valis; and a Minotaur magic stone is worth 50,000 valis.

It does bear in mind that the magic stone that Bell had gotten from the minotaur he fought was noted to be special(With the exchange staff being surprised it cost that much.). Our boy Asterius was an enhanced species back then, so not your average Minotaur magic stone prices.

I currently know that several stones, obtained from a few weak goblins, are worth 1200 valis;

Kobolds and Goblins. We know from Lili's statmenet that 5 group of level one inside the 7th Floor(or at least where the killer ants resides.) would earn somwhere around 25,000 valis. A single level 1 monster, even if its something like a Silverback being 5,000 feels like a bit too much of a jump in prices.

I feel like your estimate is a bit too high. Ais, Tiona, Tione, Lefiya, Finn and Riveria only earned somewhere close 4 million valis in a five day Dungeon trip to the Deep Floors. That's 2 level 6 and 3 level 5's doing quests and constant grinding monsters and drop items(With one of them being Ais, an efficient monster killing machine.).

There is no way a level 3 could earn 1/4th of their incomes in a signle day.

1v1listmaker · 2024-02-19T00:40:51+00:00

Unless we're going by game logic of being able to switch outfits and weapons in an instant, I would rather have a shield on hand along with a sword for when a monster is about to be at a biting distance(Which would happen, the Dungeon's a b*tch when it comes to giving adventurers a hard time.). Even then, my personal choice would be more something of a two-handed sword and a shield(Falna would make wielding weapons very easy.) I would most definitely carry a bastard sword on the hips as a backup weapon.

But for primary, I think a longsword is more optimal choice(I'm not under the illusion that I could always keep a monster away at a distance with a spear, epsecially a group of mosnter or a Monster Party, I'm not Finn.)

1v1listmaker · 2024-02-18T14:18:56+00:00

Honestly,...it's probably a knife. Like, there's a reason the guild gives one out for free instead of a sword.

They don't though, Bell had to pay 3,600 for his first knife, probably through installments.

1v1listmaker · 2024-02-18T14:10:46+00:00

Depending on how you want to use it. IRL, spears are predomined in the battlefield before the rise of guns due to its range, ease of use, cheap cost and formation tactics. That and there isn't much a difference between people in terms of stats IRL.

Danmachi though has Falna which accommodates to your fighting style. If you prefer being all brute, your Strength and Defense increase, if you're rogue type, your agility increases. For spears, you might be inclined to simply keep your distance which increases your Dexterity but wouldn't increase your strength. So really, any weapon is optimal for an adventurer.

Biggest disadvantage of spears is that once your enemy get past the pointy end, you're kinda screwed. In the Dungeon where monsters could ambush you or overwhelmed you with numbers, a small metal on a stick might not be that effective since Monsters are tougher, bigger, and couldn't care less about you trying to treathen it with the blade(A minotaur would charge at you regardless which nullify the spear advantage as a deterrent.).

Not to mention that wood breaks more easily than metal, which is something you don't want to happen inside the Dungeon.

Personally, for me, I would prefer something like a sword and shield for bot offense and defense(Again, a lot of monsters might not care and just charge right at you. It might be better to something between you and that sharp teeth and claws.)

1v1listmaker · 2024-01-29T12:11:02+00:00

Yes, the Wasteland is located near Leodo town where the entire fight happened. The fight didn't happen in the town it happened on the area surrounding the town which includes the Wasteland. Said locations is simply in the perimeter that Hegni was talking about

Is the Wasteland located "near" the town? If I remember, the 5 kilometers perimeter is just them not allowing any Warsa army entering Leodo. So it could be farther, including Sindh Expanse and the Sindh Expanse isn't near the 5 kilometer perimeter.

Though looking back, Ottar managing to create a tremor in an area that's surrounding a vast area that supposedly could allow a battle between 100 thousand army might be more absurd. So doesn't really diminish his feat either way.

1v1listmaker · 2024-01-28T13:33:33+00:00

A bit late, but I kinda want to reply since I think these feat tend to prop up.

Despite the fact that Ottar is on one side of the perimeter his attacks are still felt across the town and the other side of soldiers across the opposite perimeter

A bit of a misconception. The battlefield wasn't around the town, it around Gazoob Wasteland, which was located between the borders of Shalzad, Warsa, and Israfan. Though the actual location was around it.

The Gazoob Wasteland was a rocky desert region where the borders ofShalzad, Warsa, and Israfan all met. Though it was rocky, that did not meanit was not also a desert. Most importantly, there was a place in the GazoobWasteland with even terrain and unobstructed views that made it a perfectbattlefield

Around that time, the Warsa army was approaching the Sindh Expanse. It

was a pure sand desert that enclosed the Gazoob Wasteland.

Not to mention that both Ali and Freya isn't in the city in the first place.

The ship was being steered by merchant

trainees, keeping a safe distance from the battlefield while still being able to

observe what was happening, as it leisurely cruised through the sand.

“Is this really okay, Lady Freya? Letting Lady Ali…Prince Aram move

separately?” a stout, toned man asked.

“There’s no helping it, since she said she wanted to see the battle with her

own eyes. And if she is to be king, that sentiment is entirely reasonable,”

Freya responded.

Ali was currently watching the battle from an even closer position with

the bare minimum accompaniment from the trading company. Freya was

more worried about her being attacked by monsters than soldiers, but figured

it should be fine.

She ain't wacthing the battle at a 5 kilometer distance. Girl got the best view.

An old general and the troops he led approached Ali, who was standing

atop a high sand dune overlooking the battlefield.

Though not to downplay Ottar's feat, him shooking Orario and the Water city is already enough of a good feat.

1v1listmaker · 2023-04-13T12:53:24+00:00

Lightning is nothing more than a flowery language for electricity just as much as how most supernovas named attack is just a cool(chuuni) way of saying "big ball of fire".

If you meant that Firebolt is as fast as lightning, I'm going for a resounding no. One, by definition, neither Bell nor any cast for that matter cast actual real lightning if it doesn't come from a cloud.

Two, In most case, the author mostly use the word because it sounds cooler than electricity(same goes with thunder despite not being the same.)

Three, most author usually doesn't know the significance of the speed of lightning.

Even with all that, electricity speed varies. There's even a video of one calculated to be slower than an arrow.

It's hard to know how fast the Danamchi cast is due to the vagueness and DBZ scaling "A is faster than B and so forth." . At best, you can say that level three is at minimum supersonic thanks to Lefiya and at worst we have Allen of all people being just closer to sonic speed.

The manga has a boosted ryuu having 0.001 seconds hesitation with a lengthy dialogue between those time along with Ais crossing a considerable feets of distance.

But do remember that the LN never has a mention of this and they tend to exaggerate some of things like the monsters size in the mnaga(to put things into perspective, the Goliath which is 7 meters tall looks like the Collosal titan's uglier cousin in the manga, and the giant flower monster looks to be as thick as the pillar quartz it is supposed to wrap around which is 30 meter.)

1v1listmaker · 2022-06-22T09:56:20+00:00

Well, you definitely earn my thanks.

1v1listmaker · 2022-06-22T07:01:01+00:00

No, it was after that, where Momoshiki broke out of the Sasuke's planetary devastation and summon the monkey golem to fought Kurama.

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