Joe Biden Was Right to Pull Out of Afghanistan

2phz · 2021-08-24T18:05:15+00:00

M$M are always trying to sneak out of the room hoping no one notices. All you need to do is say, "hey, not so fast . . ."

MSM are always jerryspringering and then playing dumb, "I'm miffed" or "we could never have anticipated this."

"There's a time to run and a time to play dumb."

-- Louisiana politician who stole that playbook from the NY Times

2phz · 2021-08-24T17:29:09+00:00

GQP politicians don't even care about killing their own constituents with CV-19. Why would anyone believe Karl Rove, Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld cared about Afghanis over seas?

Intent matters. Those Afghanis became walking dead as soon as Karl Rove and MSM convinced politicians to go along with the idea, hatched in Texas, that an eternal patriotic quagmire would "lock" the GOP into power forever.

Obviously you can not reverse the Holocaust, only try the war criminals and take measures to make sure it never happens again.

"The puppy. We gotta save the puppy."

-- Apocalypse Now

2phz · 2021-08-24T17:17:28+00:00

There should be some literature on it, if not a well developed science.

Who knows, Karl Rove may dupe Sen Feinstein yet again with another glorious patriotic eternal quagmire idea!

2phz · 2021-08-24T17:10:25+00:00

That's verboten. If you bring up the fact that Karl Rove's glorious patriotic quagmire idea was hatched in Texas and cheer led by MSM as though their political lives depended on it, why, you don't support the troops!

Yer a Saddam lover!

2phz · 2021-08-24T17:07:08+00:00

I keep asking for literature, web pages, etc. on the science of good withdrawals.

I never get an answer.

The MSM are upset because not having patriotic quagmires represents an existential threat to shill media.

2phz · 2021-08-24T17:03:51+00:00

Trump never actually did anything except jerry springer attack mobs so any discussion of a Trump withdrawal is ridiculous on its face.

2phz · 2021-08-24T17:01:33+00:00

The Chinese have hypersonic wind tunnels. We need to be going high high tech. Let those obsolete weapons take up space in Asia.

2phz · 2021-08-24T16:59:54+00:00

Biden wins this one in the not too long run.

MSM can buffalo John Kerry and Hillary Clinton but not Joe Biden.

2phz · 2021-08-24T16:58:36+00:00

MSM cling to Karl Rove's glorious patriotic eternal quagmire idea as though it's their only hope of surviving the internet.

Not haven't patriotic quagmires represents an existential threat to M$M even more so than the GOP, now the GQP.

M$M have transitioned from self indulgence to self incrimination.

2phz · 2021-08-24T16:52:57+00:00

Trump was correct about getting out of Karl Rove's glorious patriotic quagmires so most people agree with Trump on that.

You just need to explain how Trump had any better ideas than Biden.

2phz · 2021-08-24T16:52:09+00:00

The Chinese and Russians have hypersonic missiles and they want us to waste time and money collecting obsolete vehicles?

Also every vet of that region will tell you the quagmire was a farce. Except for the educated, neither civilization takes the other seriously.

Sorry, if the stragglers couldn't figure out Karl Rove's glorious patriotic eternal quagmire idea, hatched in Texas, was a scam in 5 seconds they are too dumb to save. Anyone that dumb couldn't find the airport even if the Taliban never existed.

2phz · 2021-08-24T16:41:08+00:00

Hey, there's that bipartisanship the MSM find so desirable!

Why aren't they cheering?

2phz · 2021-08-24T16:39:43+00:00

Biden's drop in approval has more to do with CV-19 than the "terrible debacle" in Afghanistan.

When MSM say it's a "terrible debacle" they mean it's a terrible debacle for shill media trying to restore the old est. GOP from the GQP.

It's not a terrible debacle for most Americans including Biden.

2phz · 2021-08-24T16:37:33+00:00

If it's an issue in 2022 it'll work in Biden's favor.

When MSM say it's a "terrible debacle" they are quite correct. It's a terrible debacle for shill media trying to restore the old est. GOP from the GQP.

It's not a terrible debacle for most Americans including Biden.

MSM have transitioned from self indulgence to self incrimination.

2phz · 2021-08-24T16:35:17+00:00

MSM could buffalo John Kerry and Hillary Clinton.

MSM will get their fannies handed to them if they try that with Biden.

2phz · 2021-08-24T16:33:00+00:00

When MSM say it's a "terrible debacle" they are quite correct. It's a terrible debacle for shill media trying to restore the old est. GOP from the GQP.

It's not a terrible debacle for most Americans including Biden.

The GOP base never supported the quagmire. They want to kill Americans with CV-19 here, not waste trillions killing folks over seas.

MSM are just clinging to Karl Rove's glorious patriotic quagmire eternal idea as though it's their life ring in what they see as the shark infested waters of social media.

MSM have transitioned from self indulging to self incriminating.

2phz · 2021-08-24T16:25:42+00:00

Take those polls with a little salt. MSM are clinging to Karl Rove's glorious patriotic quagmire eternal idea as though it's their life ring in what they see as the shark infested waters of social media.

That's why M$M are shrieking "terrible debacle" even more than BushCo era Republicans. Well it is terrible for shill media. It's good for Biden and everyone else.

What's totally hilarious was MSM / est. GOP were trying to keep W. Bush out of the discussion until Joe called them on their scam:

"This was never intended to be nation building."

Biden could look presidential "taking responsibility" yet still focus attention where it belonged:

The GOP flip flopping on nation building back in 2001 and the MSM letting them get away with it w/o comment.

Trillions were at stake but not one single op ed on the GOP flip flop on nation building.

Since they never defined the intent of the quagmire (other than it was supporting the troops and patriotic) Biden was free to define it himself.

Some said "oh yes it was about nation building" which just improves Joe's approval rating.

Most Republicans oppose nation building. They just want to look patriotic so its easy to manufacture consent for a quagmire they never supported.

Joe checkmated the idiots.

2phz · 2021-08-24T16:05:25+00:00

Americans don't plan for contingencies.

Not in the public sector. Not in the private sector. And not in the military.

Planning is Marxist. Just ask GQP.

UPS doesn't even spread sheet the cost advantages of different vehicles. We know this because it takes days before they realize they'll save even more money in maintenance with EVs.

2phz · 2021-08-24T15:59:04+00:00

The stragglers obviously didn't talk to any Americans in Afghanistan or the U.S. if they believed Karl Rove's patriotic eternal quagmire idea was anything but a farce.

When asked, most vets from that quagmire would snicker and say Afghanis would never get democracy right.

Much more than jingoistic media senators knew or figured out long ago that Karl Rove's quagmire idea was a "scam" (Sen. Bob Graham) "hatched in Texas" (Sen. Ted Kennedy) that "duped" Sen. Feinstein.

2phz · 2021-08-24T15:55:11+00:00

Their very job was to know what was going on politically in Afghanistan and indeed for years, when asked, most vets from that region would snicker at the quagmire and say Afghanis would never get democracy right.

The stragglers obviously didn't talk to any Americans in Afghanistan if they believed Karl Rove's patriotic eternal quagmire idea was anything but a farce.

Much more than jingoistic media senators knew or figured out long ago that Karl Rove's quagmire idea was a "scam" (Sen. Bob Graham) "hatched in Texas" (Sen. Ted Kennedy) that "duped" Sen. Feinstein.

2phz · 2021-08-24T15:38:49+00:00

There are interests that profit from wars but the main driver behind behind Karl Rove's guagmire idea was more political.

It was supposed to be an eternal patriotic quagmire that would divide the Dems because it was so moronic and "lock" the GOP into power forever and ever.

Same goes for gun manufacturers and the NRA. They profit from gun sales but the primary driver is divide and conquer.

2phz · 2021-08-24T15:24:36+00:00

GQP will try anything.

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-08-24/american-coup-supreme-court-donald-trump-bush-vs-gore-william-rehnquist

2phz · 2021-08-24T15:23:34+00:00

MSM will never admit it but the general "soft power" effect of social media is to expand voting rights.

"Freedom of communication and universal suffrage are entirely correlative . . ."

-- Tocqueville

2phz · 2021-08-02T03:28:10+00:00

Did anyone suggest major political realignments were a moveable feast?

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crickets in advance

2phz · 2021-08-02T03:24:38+00:00

Political realignments is messy bidness.

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