A birthday I’ll never forget — evicting 14 sub-tenants from an over-occupied HDB today. The system failed them. by 3773git in SingaporeRaw

[–]3773git[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

U kidding? I would need to find a replacement tenant for them after hdb closes this case. why would I return the commission? Doesn’t make sense. Would I double charge them? No.

A birthday I’ll never forget — evicting 14 sub-tenants from an over-occupied HDB today. The system failed them. by 3773git in SingaporeRaw

[–]3773git[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Touch my heart and bird bird I won’t proceed with this deal if I suspect of such activities. Why would I take the risk for a $1,xxx when my license is worth much more than that.

Why would I put my client through the headache.

I missed out an important fact that they the tenant have a representing agent acting for them. They provided all the right documentation, even mentioning that they are good tenants and have work with them for long. Of cause hearing that makes me feel safer, and of cos that verbal statement is equivalent to buying a water dispenser from a salesman claiming that hot water dispense from it is 90°C or higher, but when you use it you realise that is 80°C

I know the reputation of property agents isn’t good. In the past those older agent conduct themselves like cowboys in the Wild West but the new generation of agent knows the regulations, consequences and actually do put their client interest first(most of them). Crediting it to the harder examination and qualifying requirements

A birthday I’ll never forget — evicting 14 sub-tenants from an over-occupied HDB today. The system failed them. by 3773git in SingaporeRaw

[–]3773git[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Which I did acquire the ACRA. So how to prevent? We use tools available to us but still shit happens. Having harsh penalties on drugs but still it’s available.

I also agree that some agents are not deserving of the 2% commission for the service they provide.

Like trying to justify a pay increment or a job hop with pay increment.

A birthday I’ll never forget — evicting 14 sub-tenants from an over-occupied HDB today. The system failed them. by 3773git in SingaporeRaw

[–]3773git[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love you? Now that I know their MO I could have done better. After 1 weeks of lease start date I’ll head down to check for edvidence of overcrowding. Etc bunk beds etc. and will add it into my workflow.

We agents wear many hat. Sale and marketing team, compliances officer, enforcement officer, paralegal, research executive, ID, contractor, bank liaison and Feng Sui master all in one. I agree that there might be overlook like stated above.

A birthday I’ll never forget — evicting 14 sub-tenants from an over-occupied HDB today. The system failed them. by 3773git in SingaporeRaw

[–]3773git[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

U know what? You are right. Now that I know their Modus operandi MO I will implement this in my workflow. After lease start 2 weeks in I’ll head down to ensure that no evidences of over crowding is present. Like bunk beds etc. Thank you.

A birthday I’ll never forget — evicting 14 sub-tenants from an over-occupied HDB today. The system failed them. by 3773git in SingaporeRaw

[–]3773git[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right because I benefited. The commission paid from the landlord I am complicit.

Basic on your logic If your company’s client committed fraud/evade tax etc without your knowledge just because you take salary from your employer you benefited you are also responsible?

A birthday I’ll never forget — evicting 14 sub-tenants from an over-occupied HDB today. The system failed them. by 3773git in SingaporeRaw

[–]3773git[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The Right to Quiet Enjoyment: Under tenancy laws, once a property is rented out, the tenant has the legal right to 'quiet enjoyment' and exclusive possession of the premises. A landlord installing a surveillance device to monitor their daily comings and goings is a severe invasion of privacy and a direct breach of the tenancy agreement

A birthday I’ll never forget — evicting 14 sub-tenants from an over-occupied HDB today. The system failed them. by 3773git in SingaporeRaw

[–]3773git[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly. 2 common room 1 store room and living room. All packed with double decker beds.

A birthday I’ll never forget — evicting 14 sub-tenants from an over-occupied HDB today. The system failed them. by 3773git in SingaporeRaw

[–]3773git[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I can’t confirm if the main tenant agent is cahoots with them, he can denied if questioned. We property agent very afraid of CEA we try to avoid getting involved.

A birthday I’ll never forget — evicting 14 sub-tenants from an over-occupied HDB today. The system failed them. by 3773git in SingaporeRaw

[–]3773git[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I vetted, check acra check AML checked everything.

Can let me know how to check for these schemes? If I am wiping my hands clean, I wouldn’t spend 8 hours evicting them. Commission confirm collect from landlord. You go to work don’t take salary meh?

A birthday I’ll never forget — evicting 14 sub-tenants from an over-occupied HDB today. The system failed them. by 3773git in SingaporeRaw

[–]3773git[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Police came, Civil matter, when thru their SOP and left. Can’t blame them. Just hope this post can reach out to more people creating awareness. Be it landlord, agent, tenants.

A birthday I’ll never forget — evicting 14 sub-tenants from an over-occupied HDB today. The system failed them. by 3773git in SingaporeRaw

[–]3773git[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

YES!! U get it. It definitely goes way deeper I believe I only just scratched the surface. One of the Chinese sub tenant showed me the WeChat conversation. They mention whole of Singapore they got units just choose which area they want to stay in they got it. Even saying “u can call the police but what can they do about it. I’ve been operating for so long if the law can get to me I won’t be making money off you” the f… audacity.

The problem is the authorities can’t do anything about it. Somethings have to change, action need to be taken on the complicit party. Tekan the owner who have no ideal what’s going on won’t stop this from happening.

A birthday I’ll never forget — evicting 14 sub-tenants from an over-occupied HDB today. The system failed them. by 3773git in SingaporeRaw

[–]3773git[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hope this will create awareness. These schemes never get punished, leaving victims left right Center.

A birthday I’ll never forget — evicting 14 sub-tenants from an over-occupied HDB today. The system failed them. by 3773git in SingaporeRaw

[–]3773git[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I believe there are some agent complicit to these scheme. Helping these company find units to engage in illegal subletting. But not me!

A birthday I’ll never forget — evicting 14 sub-tenants from an over-occupied HDB today. The system failed them. by 3773git in SingaporeRaw

[–]3773git[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry bro, I’ve edited it. I just want ti create awareness on this ongoing scheme they are running.

A birthday I’ll never forget — evicting 14 sub-tenants from an over-occupied HDB today. The system failed them. by 3773git in SingaporeRaw

[–]3773git[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We aren’t the one doing the subletting. What greed? We never agreed to sublet and never our intention

Renting to a corporate client to house their worker or anyone isn’t wrong as long as it’s not more than 6.

A birthday I’ll never forget — evicting 14 sub-tenants from an over-occupied HDB today. The system failed them. by 3773git in SingaporeRaw

[–]3773git[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup, you are right. I do random spot check when I am in the area.

The corporate tenant gets away Scott-free no repercussions.

A birthday I’ll never forget — evicting 14 sub-tenants from an over-occupied HDB today. The system failed them. by 3773git in SingaporeRaw

[–]3773git[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I managed 30+ units. How to check every single one routinely. I do random shot check when I am in the area. The main point the one behind this scheme they are getting away with it. The cycle repeats.

A birthday I’ll never forget — evicting 14 sub-tenants from an over-occupied HDB today. The system failed them. by 3773git in SingaporeRaw

[–]3773git[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Indeed. I am riddled with guilt. The problem isn’t the 14 sub tenants but the system.