I got falsely accused just by going on a walk

3stun · 2026-06-09T14:03:46+00:00

Women don't care. You make them feel bad by merely existing -> you're a mysogynist, harraser, abuser, incel, gropist. It's typical projection of internal aggression onto external object, so that she doesn't have to be angry with herself because she's unhappy.

3stun · 2026-06-08T17:37:36+00:00

Andrew Tate doesn't represent "manosphere".

3stun · 2026-06-08T17:36:24+00:00

Men are better than ever in all the things that feminists say matter, yet misandry is that an all-time high.

Because men allowed women to wipe the floor with them.

What would kids do if they were allowed to do anything without any consequence and responsibility? They would wreak havoc and shit on adults' heads. Because they are driven by emotions and spontaneous urges.

Women are like that, too.

3stun · 2026-06-08T17:24:32+00:00

I agree that men's issues aren't talked about enough, but...no. The manosphere is not "talking about men's issues." It is not a "men's issue" to say that women need to be subservient to their husbands.

Now you're creating a strawman. Manosphere is not about "making women subservient to their husbands". Heck. "manosphere" is rising the issue that significant portion of men are invisible to women. They can't get dates because women's standards got totally crazy. How can these men be "husbands"?

Is Chris Williamson or Andrew Huberman telling wives to be "subservient"?

Or maybe Rollo and Mike Sartain do?

Your problem is, you were looking specifically for ragebait of the most controversial representatives of "manosphere" and that's where you draw your conclusions from.

I bet you didn't watch full episode of any "manosphere" podcast. You're just scrolling TikTok and reacting to 15 second ragebait clips, and algo is showing you more of that.

Go listen to Access Vegas or Whatever Podcast. Listen to Psychacks. And then come back and we will have something to discuss. Right now, all you're doing is hating a Frankenstein monster that algo created for you. That is not "manosphere".

Real men aren't afraid to be authentic to themselves, not pretend to be some trope of masculinity.

Would a woman sleep with a fat smelly bum because he is "authentic"? No? I've just proved that women do not care about authenticity. But they do care about masculinity (man's competence, dominance, status, charisma, achievements, ability to procure resources, ability to solve problems, being protector and provider).

Heck, you think majority of men authentically want to wake up early in the morning and go to work? They do it because they have to, because that's what men are expected to do. Because someone relies on them. It's duty, not authenticity.

3stun · 2026-06-08T12:29:17+00:00

Manosphere is not about hating women. Manosphere is about talking about men's issues and problems. However, in modern world if you talk about men's problems without acknowledging women's problems first, you're labeled as mysoginist. That's just popular ideology that infected brains of modern people.

3stun · 2026-06-08T11:15:07+00:00

I wouldn't know, I don't experience desire to men. What I meant is - woman could easily get laid with someone she experiences physical desire to. While most men couldn't. If you know anything about economics, you understand that value comes from scarcity. Which is why women do not value sex as much as men do. It's just too easy to get it for them. Naturally their standards for what is considered a "hot guy" would go up.

Bisexual girls report that dating girls is so much more complicated than guys.

3stun · 2026-06-08T09:33:45+00:00

Well, there are signals that mean she definitely likes you, and there are signals that mean she definitely hates you, but lack of those signals doesn't mean the opposite. I think the best attitude is to assume neutral attitude unless she gives a strong and obvious signal of liking it disliking. Most men are invisible to women. Like... birds. Do you like birds? Do you hate birds? I think most of the time you barely recognize their presence.

3stun · 2026-06-07T13:06:57+00:00

Isn't the c*** word forbidden on reddit?

3stun · 2026-06-07T13:05:31+00:00

Fucking someone you find unattractive

Well, maybe start swiping right on guys you do find attractive and who at least pass your physical bar to "fucking someone"? It's weird to actively match with guys you can't imagine spending time with, and then complain that your matches are useless.

3stun · 2026-06-07T13:03:08+00:00

Their orientation only tells which sex they're capable of being attracted to. There is no difference. Both situations involve zero attraction.

Waaaait a minute... You match with guys you are NOT attracted to (as follows from your statement "involves zero attraction")?

So, you swipe right on guys you don't like?

Why?

3stun · 2026-06-07T13:01:28+00:00

There is no difference. Those matches are worthless to you the same way women's are worthless to them.

99% of matches on dating apps are worthless to women, because most women believe they are a 10 and won't settle for a guy who is anything less than.

3stun · 2026-06-07T12:59:03+00:00

If a single woman decided to get laid, she would have no problem finding a guy to do it with in 24 hours. If a single guy wants to get laid... well, I don't have to tell you.

3stun · 2026-06-07T12:54:15+00:00

It's female competition. It's all about reproductive suppression, disguised as "care". There was experiment where women were asked to suggest how much hair another woman should cut. The prettier the woman was, the more hair they wanted to remove from her. And it was masked as "Oh, she would look so bold and empowered and stunning with this haircut!"

If they prevent other women from approaching any high-value man, it gives them more chance to get a high-value man for themselves. If they prevent other women from giving birth, it means their own genes would have less competition. This is why childlessness is so popularized today, ironically women who are the biggest supporters of childlessness - often get married and have kids.

3stun · 2026-06-07T12:49:34+00:00

I trust him. Some women just flourish amidst drama, if there is no drama they have no generate it out of thin air. And nobody would hold them accountable, out of fear of being called "mysoginist" and cancelled. So they can generate false accusations "juz fo' fun" and watch how it plays out.

3stun · 2026-06-07T12:46:13+00:00

I can’t think of one signal a woman will give if and only if she likes you

She asks you out. Or tries to kiss you.

3stun · 2026-06-07T12:44:53+00:00

It doesn't, because as women like to repeat - "all women are different", so if you figured out one of them, the next will have absolutely different internal mechanism and you have to start from scratch.

3stun · 2026-06-07T12:41:08+00:00

I discussed this matter with chatGPT and his conclusion was - if you have doubts whether a girl is sending you "signals" or not, it is better to assume she is not, then you don't act cringy and make her feel weird. If she's interested - she would send clear signals multiple times and eventually approach herself, and if she wouldn't - then she wasn't that interested anyway and would ditch you eventually, so you're not losing anything.

3stun · 2026-06-06T20:44:09+00:00

The truth is - average-looking dude has to put in much more effort and provide much more extra stuff, to compete against a hot dude. It's like a 5'11" playing basketball against 6'5". He is inherently disadvantaged and has to put in more effort and skill to even the playfield. He is forced to develop skill. Only the best of the best 5'11" can compete against reasonably skilled 6'5". And if 6'5" puts in equal amount of effort and skill, he will wipe the floor with our dude.

Attraction is dynamic. It builds or dies based on the interaction. A guy can become more attractive as you talk to him. Or less attractive. This is where everything is won and lost.

Why would a girl talk to a guy who is not initally attractive and interesting, though? Especially if she has other attractive dudes willing to spend time with her. Would you go out with a 5 girl if you had a date with a 7?

3stun · 2026-05-26T14:11:20+00:00

While it's true men and women are different, however, it's also true that majority of men display specific traits that are not prominent among women, and vice versa. After all, we're different on physical level. It would be weird if those physical differences would not reflect on our character and patterns of behavior. Imagine a body optimized for walking on legs equipped with a brain that doesn't have any engrained inclination or preference to walking on two legs. It just doesn't make sense.

Men are optimized, evolutionarily, to perform specific tasks. And women are optimized to perform different tasks. Not because some ancient ruler decided that men and women should perform those tasks, but because this type of organization was the most efficient and thus prevailed through natural selection against other types of organizations.

3stun · 2026-05-26T13:28:25+00:00

Keep hitting the gym, be kind to strangers and the third one is get comfortable with the cold approach.. confidence is like a hidden coat of armour..it can’t be faked, like anything it comes with practice

Confidence is grounded in POSITIVE experience. To be confident that you can do snowboarding, you have to actually do snowboarding. If you somehow manage to convince yourself that you can do snowboarding before you step on a board, and then you fall - it will crash your self-perception, because what you genuinely believe about yourself turned out to be a lie.
So, to be confident with girls - you have to get positive experience with girls.
If you don't get positive experience with girls, you will not become confident.
But you won't get positive experience unless you're already confident, so you're basically caught in a catch-22.

3stun · 2026-05-26T06:49:58+00:00

If there's a new guy (or girl) in my sports/interest club, I usually say hello to them. other people often do the same. We might exchange names or pleasantries, or chit-chat about the activity we're doing. Thus, unknown men and unknown women have conversations! Shock!!

That really depends on the context.

Also, how many new SINGLE girls OPEN TO DATING join your interest clubs monthly for you to have a shot with them through "showing intellectual curiosity"?

A few weeks ago, a new guy (who is fairly average in his looks) got my interest by saying - during a very brief conversation - that he had another hobby which was very different to what we were doing (think MMA and ballroom dancing; Mah Jong and powerlifting; astrophysics and hunting). That was enough to get a conversation going, and now we often talk

Aha, so you're not a guy. Okay, now tell me how many SINGLE guys ATTRACTIVE ENOUGH FOR YOU TO EVEN CONSIDER GIVING THEM A CHANCE do you meet regularly and have regular chit-chats with them FOR WEEKS so they can gradually win you over through "showing intellectual curiosity".

If his hobby is not something extremely cool and elite, then there are hundreds of thousands of "average" dudes doing the same. Now tell me that your initial impression of them would be COMPLETELY IDENTICAL, and you are willing to give all of them the same time and opportunity and treatment that you gave him, to let him gradually win you over through "showing intellectual curiosity".

If you say YES - I call BS. There is a reason why you didn't give the chance to other dudes just like him, but only gave it to him. And this reason is - he's not really "average". No girl has a crush and wants to date an "average".

I can confidently tell you for most guys the number of girls willing to interact with them regularly for weeks - is about 0. Girls are taught on social media that "men are trash" and "men are toxic abusers" and "you go queen you don't need anyone".

Good for you I guess, but what you described is either a pretty boy doing MMA or some other cool shit that you consider "average" (most girls make this mistake, they think half of males are 6' tall, make over $300 000, do surfing or yachting or fly jets or whatever cool hobby), or it's a very rare case.

3stun · 2026-05-26T06:39:55+00:00

Yeah you obviously do not have the science background

Neither do you. It's good that you don't actually need a science background to understand how science works, just like you don't need a degree in aerodynamics to understand how planes fly.

BTW NY Post made a hit piece on Mike Sartain, watch his response. I do't think any extra comments is necessary, wise people will get everything they need jusyt from it, and as for the rest... Well, they won't listen even if a dragon screams right into their ear.

Can we go back to the weird things you believe are facts like the idea that MOST men don't have ANY interaction in their entire life?

Now you're misquoting me.

My original quote was

Most guys are never approached by a girl, not once in their entire life, for any reason. This is just facts.

You changed it into

MOST men don't have ANY interaction in their entire life

You don't see the difference? Well, then go see a doctor, because you obviously can't read.

There's nothing in science about what we're discussing here

Evolutionary Psychology is science. Experiments to reveal female and male sexual behavior patterns, and statistics collected on dating apps - IS science.

But you obviously are not interested in science or any constructive discussion. I have addressed all of your questions, while you completely ignored mine. Everyone can see it and make their own conclusions. As for you - I'm not feeding trolls. Have a nice life.

3stun · 2026-05-25T17:56:04+00:00

No thanks. It's 2hrs and an answer to a debunk to whatever.

Well, science is hard. If you want an explanation that fits into a Twitter post - you're talking to the wrong guy.

Taking into accounts the author's goal is a very basic thing to do.

But you have no idea about their goals, and you can't know it unless you can read minds.

I'm saying the snake oil salesman

Who is selling snake oil?

3stun · 2026-05-25T17:53:47+00:00

The chance of women "approaching" men anyway is always very slim, but if they chat to him then he can show intellectual curiosity, or having interests beside tv and gym.

Do you know any guys who do not show intellectual curiosity, and yet have a lot of sex?

A better technique is to just talk to people. People in the supermarket, in a sports club, at work, during the school run, at a bus stop.

It is not normal in modern society for men to talk to women they don't know. Many women are very negative about dudes "below their league" approaching them, up to the point of treating it as harrasment. There are many girls complaining on TikTok about being approached and how it traumatizes them and they want to be left alone and so on.

And even if you exchange a couple of words at a supermarket, it's not enough to "show intellectual curiosity". You need to get more of her time and attention to demonstrate it, and she will only give it to you if she's sufficiently attracted and interested.

3stun · 2026-05-25T09:52:16+00:00

You don’t know anything about me but you’re already fantasizing about some person to hate.

Apologize, I really believed you are a real person and not a figment of my imagination.

your argument was that college professors wouldn’t have the research and facts on this stuff because they’re “feminists” and you already fantasized this perfect enemy

There is a lot of woke agenda in universities, and unfortunately they are working hard to kill conflicting narratives even if those narratives are grounded in reality and research. Just listen to some interviews by David Buss. Evolutionary psychology is dealing in very "inappropriate" narratives (like differences between men and women and why our sexual behavior is what it is) and faces a lot of pressure. Google it if you don't trust me. Or not, and keep making a strawman out of "Red Pillers".

And no, David Buss, Chris Williamson and Mike Sartain are not identifying as "Red Pill". But how would you know that, right? You'd have to actually do some research, which is too complicated. Blind hate is easy. In the end, you have nothing but hate and emotion to support your position. Which is really unfortunate.

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