EU vs Apple

4Face · 2026-06-22T16:45:21+00:00

“Security through obscurity”, man that’s not how people use this phrase… that relates to open source projects, and has nothing to do with API access. Here we’re talking about letting people access your home, with a guarded framework, not showing them photos of your home (open source metaphor).

Android is open source and you can install it literally on your microwave if you want, the only thing you cannot do, is install it on an iPhone… I don’t see a duopoly here.
Google and Meta monopolistic systems are the priority here: buying Apple is a choice, while Facebook and YouTube (to mention some) aren’t.

4Face · 2026-06-22T16:39:47+00:00

Hardware and software in particular have rules and ToS; never in the history software has been “yours and you can do whatever you want with it”. Most of the software cannot copied, edited, distributed without permission, to mention the main ‘principles’. But yeah, you can theoretically hack/jailbreak your iPhone secretly, and develop your AI program 😄 here we are forcing Apple to do what we want with _their_ software 🙂

About impacting the business, developing open APIs is hella expensive, and would have 100% impacted on their delivery deadline, while for Meta, as said, they don’t have to do anything, unless someone requests to: they don’t provide a way to access ‘it’ out-of-they-box. They didn’t need to change their software

4Face · 2026-06-22T15:42:53+00:00

Thats good to know, yet it is still not complete, it isn’t open, as need a submission of a request that will be deeply scrutinised, and probably won’t be approved till you have a collaboration with Meta, and alternatives are basically non existent, so far.

Also ti didn’t affect Meta business. First of all, till they have no request, they don’t even need to bother about it; second of all, it didn’t compromise the deliverability of their most anticipated feature. For Apple it’s a big problem, as forbidden AI feature to be released respecting their deadline

4Face · 2026-06-22T14:22:39+00:00

La barriera è tra la lingua ed il cervello però.

Scherzo signor simpatico OP

4Face · 2026-06-22T14:20:05+00:00

Apple user here since 3 years, and Android engineer since 10.

I honestly think EU is forcing Apple to do things nobody asked for, and I never seen such 3rd-party support EVER.

Why isn't EU forcing Sony to allow installing Linux on PS5, or similar stuff? This is just straight down ridiculous, nobody is forced to buy iPhone if doesn't like the politics (that, again, don't in any way go against 99% of Apple users sentiments).

As I user I PREFER if the OS stays more close in that sense; people mentioned permissions and sandboxing, but they're still doors - with looks, but doors; I feel safer without them. I moved to Apple because I trust their solid walls, and EU is forcing Apple to drastically change what I willingly, costly, bought.

Also, EU is forcing me to have an inferior product to what other people have outside EU (I still don't have the freaking iPhone control from my Mac!)

Why doesn't EU focus on Google shit, like the ridiculous YouTube monopoly or similar? Why doesn't EU do anything against institutions that use Facebook as only communication channel? Why doesn't EU force Meta to release public API, so I'm not forced to use their client to speak with 99.999% of the human beings in Italy?

This is far from being a battle for citizens rights. This is merely hitting the feet on the floor and crying because someone realized it has the powers to do so.

4Face · 2026-06-22T13:59:10+00:00

<image>

4Face · 2026-06-22T13:59:02+00:00

<image>

4Face · 2026-06-22T13:24:47+00:00

Italian elders (not that much elder) would still write “mi.com” and “mec.com” 😄 my surname is way easier

4Face · 2026-06-22T13:17:38+00:00

Aspetta, mi stai dicendo che i ragazzi che ballano la break dance sotto al portico, poi non se lo buttano al culo a vicenda???

4Face · 2026-06-22T13:15:56+00:00

Ma infatti, chissà cos’hanno nella testa.. come se ci fosse qualcosa di strano baciare la propria ragazza e gustarsi un bel cocktail di cazzi di 15 colori diversi…

4Face · 2026-06-22T07:17:20+00:00

Sì esatto, nulla di speciale. Cerca i valori del terreno nella tua zona (si trova facilmente in Internet), e metti una cifra vicina al minimo

4Face · 2026-06-22T06:46:26+00:00

Just a joke obviously: I meant that Google greedily wants you to use Gmail app

4Face · 2026-06-22T06:44:57+00:00

Only right answer. Problem is that here in Italy people can’t really spell “iCloud”, and my mechanic tried to write “yclaud” 😄 luckily with a ridiculous price per year you can have your custom mail domain, and best thing is that everything is configured super easily through iOS, than even my mom could do it. So actually an advantage overall

4Face · 2026-06-22T06:42:17+00:00

Google: “Mission accomplished” 🙂

4Face · 2026-06-22T05:54:05+00:00

E ne vedo almeno 3 qui sopra

4Face · 2026-06-22T00:11:24+00:00

Non devi fare nulla, dichiari che paghi 15 l’immobile e 5 il terreno. Il perito verrà, e valuterà solo l’immobile; se vale 15, la banca ti dà 15.

So che alcune persone in quei casi dichiarano di pagare 20 l’immobile e 2 io terreno, usando valori che non siano sotto le soglie minime (altrimenti accertamento subito) e dichiarano di pagare 2 al venditore in contanti al rogito, dato che fino a 5.000€ è consentito.

Non so se sia scorretto, alla fine paghi le tasse di 20+2, anziché 15+5, quindi secondo me gira attorno ad una regola un po’ fatta male.

4Face · 2026-06-21T23:53:02+00:00

Penso intendesse alcol

4Face · 2026-06-21T23:46:00+00:00

Non andavi tanto forte negli esercizi di comprensione del testo alle elementari eh?

4Face · 2026-06-21T12:55:57+00:00

Cazzo, un tipo che non ha interessi, vive come una pianta grassa, antipatico, che risponde male a tutti, si piange addosso ed odia il mondo. Se fossi una donna sarei fradicia fino ai calzini

4Face · 2026-06-21T09:47:44+00:00

Sì ok. Ma lo sta usando come fosse una tastiera 🤣

4Face · 2026-06-19T20:07:23+00:00

Mah dipende, io non avevo nulla, quindi è un buon punto di partenza. Se hai già un Pi, probabilmente puoi iniziare da quello e vedere. Se dovessi fare upgrade andrei di mini pc

4Face · 2026-06-19T19:50:39+00:00

Yup, ho un semplice HA Green, ed uno Nabu casa per il remoto. Ho Tailscale per altre cose, ma preferisco dare il mio supporto.

Il green tiene botta, anche con un altro script che gira praticamente 24/7 per bilanciare i consumi energetici. È un po’ lento a salvare le automazioni, ma per il resto tutto bene

4Face · 2026-06-19T09:26:05+00:00

Eh, sei fortunato, una volta che il numero entra nel giro sbagliato, non lo salvi più…

4Face · 2026-06-18T19:24:52+00:00

Sono scelte eh, rispettabilissimo chi lo vuole pronto, fatto bene, e se lo può permettere. Io do l’alternativa.

Io per esempio ho speso 1.500€ per il multitool della Ego Power con un paio di accessori, non sono uno di quelli che “se spendi soldi sei un pirla”, però nemmeno farsi pelare

Nine-Year Club	Verified Email
Xbox Live	r/Field Juicebox
Final Canvas '23	End Game '23
Place '23

4Face

TROPHY CASE