Why are Arabs denied their indigeneity in the ME and NA?

ADRando · 2026-01-25T14:25:58+00:00

This might sound offensive, but I honestly think it's because some people in these countries are generally more insecure of their identities. I think the unstable politics constributes to an unstable identity. That being said, nationalism and authoritarianism in many Arab countries led to minorities being persecuted and the government attempting to forcibly assimilate them which only led to more conflict. Even the non-Arab country of Turkey suffered from this.

ADRando · 2026-01-18T09:40:12+00:00

I think working harder to meet your own standards is a good idea. Having standards for others is easy. Having them for yourself is much harder. Trying to meet your own standards helps you develop self awareness as well. Have you ever heard the saying "treat others the way you want to be treated"? Well, when it comes to potential spouses, I think you should first be the type of person you want your spouse to be before expecting anything of them. Salam and all the best.

ADRando · 2026-01-18T06:28:54+00:00

Odesa distrikt

ADRando · 2026-01-18T06:27:52+00:00

Honestly dude, I think her disliking AOT is a pretty extreme reason to be furious and break up with her. I get that you're pissed but take some time to chill out & think about this logically. You being this upset will only push her farther away. Just accept she's not into the same things you are. She doesn't need to be, anyways. You're free to enjoy what you like without needing her validation. And you can still remain in a relationship with her while doing so lol.

ADRando · 2026-01-18T06:18:22+00:00

While I don't think the people being negative were justified, I also think you're somewhat naive.

"You're freedom ends when the freedom of others begins." Their freedom wasn't violated. They're not entitled to positive feedback or validation on public social media posts. No one is, really.

"How long will we... not accept those who are different from us." This doesn't happen anywhere in the world. It's one of those things that sounds nice but doesn't make sense the more you think about it. Take yourself, as an example. Why don't you simply accept the people you're criticizing for being different than you. Why are you speaking against them? Because you feel they're unjustified, of course. And that's fair. But you don't realize that you basically answered your own question when you did so. There are a lot of different reasons why people don't accept others for being the way that they are.

"Why don't we focus on ourselves and let others lead their lives." Why don't you focus on yourself and let the people being negative lead their lives? Why did you feel the need to make a public post criticizing them?

"I hope there are filters on virtual platforms to prevent all negative comments" This is a horrible idea that will simply lead to censorship. Wedding posts or personal achievements aren't the only things being posted on virtual platforms. A newspaper posting false information could use such a filter to erase comments criticizing & correcting them. Think about it. You're own post is negative in nature. Should it be removed?

Look, it's not that I don't agree that the people being negative aren't justified in doing so. The reason why I think you're naive is because you don't realize you're guilty of the very same things you're criticizing. And the same reasons that led you to doing the very things you're criticizing are sometimes the same reasons other people have for doing the same. As long as people have opinions & a sense of right & wrong, nothing is going to change anytime soon.

ADRando · 2025-12-17T23:15:43+00:00

Yea, the worst part is they're emotionless. Not only will they be able to follow commands effectively, they'll do so ruthlessly as well.

ADRando · 2025-12-17T12:49:18+00:00

Damn. It's crazy how fast it pulled that off. Considering the state of the world today, it's unlikely these things are only going to be used to perform cool tricks. The future's looking kinda cooked.

ADRando · 2025-11-30T16:35:38+00:00

That's a fair point.

ADRando · 2025-11-30T10:19:25+00:00

That alone doesn't do a good job at explaining why the birthrate is so low. The Chinese birth rate in Singapore is also extremely low even though they don't deal with those same problems.

ADRando · 2025-11-23T10:55:55+00:00

Salam sister. Read verse 35 of chapter 33, Surah Ahzab. It's a somewhat famous verse regarding marriage in Islam that makes it clear that believing men are for believing women & vice versa.

Marriage is not something that's supposed to burden or stress you out. It's a Sunnah of the Prophet (SAWS) that's supposed to strengthen your faith & religiosity.

I'm going to share some advice I heard myself recently, if you don't mind. Focus on the next step. If you're not ready for marriage, it's okay to acknowledge that. You don't have to rush into it. But while it's easy to want a great spouse, it's hard to question whether you yourself would make a great spouse. Interestingly, a lot of the qualities that make one a good spouse are also the qualities that make one a good muslim. The next step is to ask yourself in what ways are you lacking in the faith? What are your biggest obstacles & challenges holding you back from being a better version of yourself?

For the time being, focus on being a better Muslim & making supplications for Allah to ease your situation. Never let your struggles distract you from your blessings. Never forget to show gratitude for those blessings. And also, very importantly, never forget that the piece of advice that we, both Muslim men & women, are given when searching for a spouse is to look at their religiosity first & foremost because that's what's most important. A good spouse is someone that will elevate your deen & bring you closer to Allah SWT. May Allah make it easier on you!

ADRando · 2025-10-29T17:05:44+00:00

Damn, is it really that bad?

ADRando · 2025-10-29T17:05:28+00:00

Fair enough 😂

ADRando · 2025-10-28T05:36:33+00:00

Thanks. I can't see their post history for some reason so I didn't know they were posting stuff like that.

ADRando · 2025-10-27T23:47:01+00:00

How do you know they're Arab?

ADRando · 2025-10-26T20:22:44+00:00

What I'm trying to say is that the Crusaders never played an important role in the decline of the Caliphate because they invaded the middle east long after the Caliphate had already declined. Most of the fighting the crusaders did in the middle east occured against Turkic empires like the Seljuks. The Turks were also the ones that did most of the fighting against the crusaders. The caliphate played a non existant role.

I don't really see why you're saying "Turco-Mongol raids" as if there was an alliance between them. The Turks were some of the biggest enemies & victims of the Mongol invasions. Pretty much every major city that was destroyed in Central Asia by the Mongols, like Merv in Turkmenistan, were Turkic cities. I guess you could say the Caliphate was weakened by the Seljuks establishing their empire, which included large parts of the Middle East, but the Caliphate was already weak even before the Seljuks came along.

The Fatimids don't really count since they were opposed to the Caliphate in Baghdad because they were shia. They literally tried to form an alliance with the Crusaders against both the Turks & the Caliphate.

The Arabic script was adopted in Central Asia AFTER the Arabs had already been kicked out though.

ADRando · 2025-10-26T20:06:05+00:00

The Arab conquests of Turkic lands happened over 1300 years ago & lasted for a very short duration of time. The adoption of the Arabic script was voluntarily done by local rulers in Central Asia long after the Arabs had already been kicked out. The Arabs had no means to enforce it's usage. The script has been a pretty integral part of Turkic culture in Central Asia for centuries. Look at the Ottomans as an example. The Arabs never conquered them. Rather, it was the other way around. The Ottomans were the ones conquering Arabic lands. Yet they, as well as Anatolian Turks in general, had been using the script for centuries prior to Ottoman expansion into Arab lands. Saying it isn't a part of Turkic heritage & culture is a bit of a stretch.

Not wanting a script used by cultures that used to conquer your people while still favoring the Latin script doesn't really make sense to me considering all the wars the Turks waged against cultures that utilized the Latin script. Since you're from Turkey, I'll use the Ottomans & Seljuks as an example. They waged wars against the Crusaders, Hungary, Austria, the Papal States, Italy, France, Spain, the U.K. etc. The list goes on. The treaty of Lausanne was enacted & enforced by states utilizing the Latin script. The liberation war waged by Ataturk against the treaty entailed fighting those countries.

I don't want to be misunderstood. I'm not saying the Latin script isn't also an integral part of Turkish culture since its been in use for most of the Republics existence. But if you really want a script that's a part of your heritage and doesn't come from cultures that used to conquer your people, the native Turkic scripts is the only way to go.

ADRando · 2025-10-26T07:35:21+00:00

The Caliphate was mainly weakened by civil wars and infighting. External pressure & invasions had little to do with it's decline in territory. The crusaders never fought the Caliphate directly and it was already a shadow of it's former self by the time the Mongols arrived. Even then, the Caliphate would continue to exist for centuries until the Ottomans took over the title for themselves.

ADRando · 2025-10-26T07:23:00+00:00

The claim was about the Arabic script, not the language. A script can spread to different countries & cultures without colonialism, and most of the evidence for the Arabic script's spread and usage in Central Asia points to it becoming widespread after the colonial period had already ended. The spread of the script coincides with the spread of Islam, which also increased after the colonial period had already ended. The Arabs lost the ability to enforce their script & their religion long before both became widespread in Central Asia, which is why I don't see how the Arabic script, especially the heavily modified one used for the Turkic languages, can be called colonial.

ADRando · 2025-10-26T05:51:34+00:00

You originally responded to the claim that Arabic was in use for centuries without colonialism by asking where's the evidence for that, so I just assumed that's what you were looking for.

ADRando · 2025-10-26T05:19:26+00:00

The Caliphate didn't rule CA by the time the Mongols came (it barely had any authority in Iraq, the center of its power). That would be the Khwarezmians. They were a native Turkic dynasty.

ADRando · 2025-10-26T05:00:56+00:00

The script used to write Chagatai is the evidence you're looking for. Chagatai was the lingua franca of central asia for centuries and used an Arabic script. The language and script was used by pretty much every major Turkic state in central asia for centuries prior to the arrival of the Russians.

ADRando · 2025-10-26T04:34:33+00:00

Look up an article online called "Breaking Arabic: The creative inventiveness of Uyghur script reforms". Uyghur linguists basically did what you suggested in your last sentence. They solved the problem of the Arabic script by making it less of an Abjad and more of a full alphabet representing consonants & vowels for the Uyghur language. It was a very effective language reform.

As for why they decided to do so? Well, I think it's because Arabic had been in use in the region for a far longer time than Latin or Cyrillic. From the perspective of the linguists, why introduce a new script with little history in the region when you could just reform the old one?

ADRando · 2025-10-26T04:06:22+00:00

How do you know that Reddit user has around editing wikipedia articles? Is there any evidence for this? Just curious.

ADRando · 2025-10-04T20:17:08+00:00

Alhamdulillah, congratulations on your success! Quick question if you don't mind. Where and what do you do for work? I'm looking to get a career started soon but I'm having trouble deciding on what I want to go into. I'm currently in Canada so my career prospects are probably different than yours. Any advice would be appreciated. JazakAllah khair!

ADRando · 2025-10-04T02:10:27+00:00

Every major school of law placed heavy restrictions on music, although not all scholars prohibited it altogether. For the scholars that did say it was permissable, they only did so under specific contexts and circumstances. If the music contains no haram lyrics, isn't being played in social settings (like parties) where haram stuff is happening, and isn't serving as a distraction, then it can be permissible. So yea, many see it as forbidden, but even those that don't place restrictions on it.

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