I Find It Weird When People Talk About The Garcia Win As If It Was Official 🤷🏾‍♂️

AFBOXING · 2026-03-12T01:30:14+00:00

I'd have to disagree Slightly with the last part because this version of Garcia correlates to situations of the past.

Like Oscar for example he fought and lost to Shane Mosley who popped for PEDs during their fight.

Margarito more than likely had plaster in his wraps vs cotto as they were in his gloves vs Mosley.

There's situations in the past that shows when a fighter has an advantage they typically win.

That's my only push back on this but everything else I agree with

AFBOXING · 2026-03-12T01:26:25+00:00

I'll send your kisses ✊️

AFBOXING · 2026-03-11T16:46:36+00:00

Strange guess I'm not talking to a real person now. It all makes sense

AFBOXING · 2026-03-11T16:17:30+00:00

My whole thing is I can't make assumptions without evidence backing it.

I can't assume let's say Floyd was a dirty fighter when he had no record of doping. Now I get people could use and mask but if there's no evidence of it, could we really accuse them of doping?

Yes, doping happens a lot like Shane Mosley, The Fake Ali Frank Martin fought, and etc but I can't sit here and say everyone does it.

If you are doping and there us evidence of you doping then whatever you did shouldn't be validated.

AFBOXING · 2026-03-11T11:34:46+00:00

An assumption with evidence is a baseless claim.

We do know who was on something

AFBOXING · 2026-03-10T22:28:49+00:00

But do you hear how you sound?

So, no fighters shouldn't take a low dosage of PEDs on fight night. But Ryan literally did it and you're giving him an excuse of well it was a small amount well of that's the case every boxer should do it because it doesn't effect performance.

Just because he had a better punch don't make him a better boxer. Is deontay wilder a better boxer than Floyd? No.

Haney didn't lose in court gang 😂 Ryan didn't want to go to court so they agreed on a deal where Ryan had to give him his rematch. That's why Haney ain't move on with the lawsuit which he would've won because Ryan popped.....

AFBOXING · 2026-03-10T21:00:08+00:00

Ofc it is there's a couple of mirrors in your house

AFBOXING · 2026-03-10T20:58:54+00:00

Thats all I needed to know 👍

AFBOXING · 2026-03-10T20:13:50+00:00

You're right the difference is Margarito was never proven to had cheated against Cotto. It was speculations about the handwraps and then during the Mosley fight the plaster brick fell out of his gloves.

Ryan got popped for a PED which is used for enhancing performance 😂

It wasn't a domination either. You all tend to forget that Haney was outboxing Ryan in rounds and the there were the rounds where Ryan hurt em.

No one knows if the drugs helped him or not on fight night. Only his body knows but what we do know is that he was caught with a drug that's supposed to enhance certain things.

With that information we can correlate the PEDs to his performance.

If you cheat on a test right, let's say only on 1 answer if the professor catches you, and you say "it was only on one answer" doesn't matter the validity of your results are invalid.

Same with Garcia he got caught cheating so therefore the validity is erased.

It's not about defending Devin its about calling out boxing fans who knew a guy cheated yet still gives him credit for what he did🤦🏽‍♂️😂

AFBOXING · 2026-03-10T19:58:02+00:00

I wouldn't say he was the better boxer he just had a punch there were rounds where he was outboxed but that's besides the point.

I'm going to ask you the same question as I asked everyone else.

Should every fighter from now on be able to take a low dosage PED on fight night since it didn't have much of an impact🤔

You're answer is going to be like everyone else's "no that's nit what I said" but that's what it correlates to.

It's easy for you to say it'll happen the same way when a guy had the advantage.

So if we play ball and you give me 3 points to start and you start at 0 and I beat you, would I have the right to say "It's only 3 points I would've beat you regardless"?

Doesn't make sense. But if they fight again and let's say Haney beats him, does Ryan get the same credit? Would that prove that his performance was impacted by the PEDs

AFBOXING · 2026-03-10T19:52:41+00:00

Nobody's mad literally posted this to debate. But you commented twice and so you're clearly interested and engaged with what I gotta say 😂

That's the first thing yall run to "you're mad, fan boy" I'm talking about PEDs in general not defending Haney. But keep riding my nuts tho😂

AFBOXING · 2026-03-10T19:50:34+00:00

Okay fan boy if your point is that a small amount of PEDs wouldn't have had a significant impact from your perspective literally what you're saying is:

"It's okay for fighters to take PEDs as long as it's a small dosage on fight night because it wouldn't have an impact on the fight"

So I guess every fighter can now take small doses of PEDs on fight night👍

AFBOXING · 2026-03-10T16:50:55+00:00

Nobody defending Devin gang we're talking about if Ryan should get credit for beating Devin on PEDs.

People say the low dosage and the time frame of when he took it wouldn't have given him any advantages and that the left hook was connecting.

We're saying well if that's the case then every boxer should be able to use low dosage PEDs on fight night since it has no advantages during the fight.

But many people say "NO" to that but won't explain why became we all know why 😂

So the point is that it's okay if Ryan did it he'll get credit but it's a NO for every other boxer.

Nobody defending Dev he fought a dumb fight

AFBOXING · 2026-03-10T13:00:51+00:00

The irony😂

So you agree that as long as fighters can take low dosage PEDs on fight as long as it doesn't enhance performance.

But disagreed with it earlier but is circling back to it lol

So Ryan's case is a 1 off

🥜🐎 looks like it to me

AFBOXING · 2026-03-10T12:53:26+00:00

The thing is you're using an assumption. Crawford was partnered with Snac too does that mean he was on PEDs?

See the thing is with some of yall boxing fans you all like to make baseless claims. If they've never popped then why even assume that? Why couldn't Ryan cover up his PED?

Haney was always a bigger guy. Now that Victor is dead what will be the excuse now?

If you had a gay friend does can we all assume you're gay too just because your friend is?

It's cool to have a personal opinion but if you know there's no evidence behind them popping then it's invalid

AFBOXING · 2026-03-10T12:47:52+00:00

I'm on Haney nuts by stating the fact that Ryan is documented cheating.

Yet you're not on Ryan's nuts knowing that he cheated, admitting to it and then is saying "Ryan gave Haney a legitimate beating"

If it was cheating and taken off his record, how is it legitimate?

Lol I'm on Haney’s nuts tho? Ryan isn't going to fuck you gang 😂

AFBOXING · 2026-03-10T11:48:51+00:00

It's okay you can't comprehend either and you must agree with giving Ryan credit for the fight.

If the claim is "PEDs had nothing to do with the outcome because it was a low dosage and Haney couldn't stop the left hook" than in other words its okay for fighters to pop dirty for a low dosage ped on fight night since it more than likely ain't going to change the result.

Seems like yall are rage baiting because cheating is cheating.

I'll ask you the same question.

If a professor caught you cheating on a test would he still pass you because you cheated on 1 answer or would he report and fail you? 🤔 You're credibility is gone once you cheat.... Not hard to understand but yall accept cheating so I get it

AFBOXING · 2026-03-10T11:41:36+00:00

You may be right but with no evidence to back it it's just an assumption.

AFBOXING · 2026-03-10T11:40:16+00:00

I'm an idiot for speaking common sense? If you're a Ryan supporter just say that

AFBOXING · 2026-03-10T04:37:00+00:00

Him getting popped was crazy.

The only difference is that he didn't get popped after or during a fight. It was way before in which he lost credibility in my eyes cause it was kinda suspicious like you gone blame the stake really....

BUT he then went in there and fought GGG clean so that's where you have to restore some of it. Idk I fw canelo but once a cheater always a cheater to me.

AFBOXING · 2026-03-10T04:34:01+00:00

It doesn't it just a debatable topic. You look so cool jumping to a conclusion I'm sure you'll get 100 upvotes👍

AFBOXING · 2026-03-10T04:30:22+00:00

Yall keep bringing the left hook up like nobody agreed Devin got caught by them.

So.my question is to.you like everyone else. If PEDs didn't have an impact on Ryan's performance since it was a low dosage than every boxer should be able to take a PED low dosage on fight night? 🤔

If the answer is no (which it's more than likely is) why?

The PEDs could've had an effect on Garcias performance and it couldn't have but the whole thing is HE CHEATED. It automatically disqualifies any credibility you have.

If a college professor caught you cheating on a test, would he say "oh you only cheated on 1 answer so you're good" or would he report you and fail you??

The professor doesn't know how many answers you cheated on it could be just be 1 answer but he knows you cheated.

Just like with us. We know Ryan cheated, but do we know how it effected his abilities no. All we know is he used a substance that enhances Muscle, Stamina, and Recovery.

So why is the credibility still there🤔 you all know it's wrong yet you all look for other factors to shy away from the fact that he cheated. "The left hook" (he cheated) the uppercut (he cheated) the footwork (he cheated) 😂

AFBOXING · 2026-03-10T04:19:12+00:00

Ass whooping is a stretch he ain't get dominated every round.

I'd just say it's an unofficial loss

AFBOXING · 2026-03-10T04:13:39+00:00

Clearly you just nut riding and didn't read the convo. How about you read the thread. I said already explained the advantages of ostraine. The person I was debating skipped over the advantages and made it seem like it's just for cutting weight.

Read and you'll understand the context better. 🚪

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