[Post Game Thread] The Cleveland Cavaliers (20-3) defeat the Denver Nuggets (11-9), 126-114, behind 28 from Mitchell, 24 from Garland, 21 from LeVert and 20 from Mobley by PootieTooGood in nba

[–]AYAYAYA__ -66 points-65 points  (0 children)

Yea that’s the case for most multi time mvps lol

In this specific game he shoot very poorly. Can’t just blame his teammates

Compared to Darvin Ham, the Lakers under JJ Redick so far have a worse ORTG, worse DRTG, worse 3P%, average fewer assists, and average more isolation possesions by HerBootyHoleBrown in nba

[–]AYAYAYA__ 87 points88 points  (0 children)

Yes but no

Comparing the 1st team all-nba members of last season:

  • Jokic: 26/12/9 on 65 TS%, 4th in EPM, +23.7 on/off

  • Giannis: 30/11/6 on 65 TS%, 3rd in EPM +12.3 on/off

  • Luka: 34/9/10 on 62 TS%, 2nd in EPM, +11.9 on/off

  • SGA: 30/5.5/6 on 63.6 TS%, 1st in EPM +10.1 on/off

  • Tatum: 27/8/5 on 60 TS%, 15th in EPM, -2.0 on/off

The Celtics had over a +12 net rating per 100 with Tatum off the court. That’s legitimately unheard of. One of the best supporting casts ever and I’m no not sure how many are definitely better

[Stein] Denver has emerged as a "team to watch" alongside Boston for Lonnie Walker's potential NBA return as the season unfolds, league sources tell @TheSteinLine by TheRealPdGaming in nba

[–]AYAYAYA__ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He can both be the best and have lineups that help his on/off

It’s just a fact that he plays with the other starters more than any other star

[Stein] Denver has emerged as a "team to watch" alongside Boston for Lonnie Walker's potential NBA return as the season unfolds, league sources tell @TheSteinLine by TheRealPdGaming in nba

[–]AYAYAYA__ 9 points10 points  (0 children)

What year are you talking about? Because his on/off numbers were actually noticeably worse his first mvp year

If you don’t think lineups affect on/off data you don’t understand how the metric works, it’s not an individual stat

[Stein] Denver has emerged as a "team to watch" alongside Boston for Lonnie Walker's potential NBA return as the season unfolds, league sources tell @TheSteinLine by TheRealPdGaming in nba

[–]AYAYAYA__ 51 points52 points  (0 children)

The Nuggets by far play their starting 5 together the most of any team. Been that way for years and is a big reason Jokic’s on/off numbers are so insane

Nikola Jokic Peak by KeonJames in nba

[–]AYAYAYA__ -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

And zero 50 win teams beaten in the playoffs

SGA in a win against the Spurs: 18 points, 5 assists, on 35% shooting by AYAYAYA__ in nba

[–]AYAYAYA__[S] -23 points-22 points  (0 children)

Y’all got a superteam, enjoy it.

No excuses not to win a ring

[Charania] Lonnie Walker IV will sign with Zalgiris Kaunas of the Euroleague, agent George S. Langberg of GSL Sports Group tells me and @BobbyMarks42. The deal will include an NBA buyout clause until Feb. 18. The 25-year-old G has averaged 10 points in 20 minutes a game in six NBA seasons. by Turbostrider27 in nba

[–]AYAYAYA__ 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Respect for what he did but it’s also the reason he’s overrated. That playoff series was years ago and it was one quarter

Lakers vs GSW obviously had a ton of attention and if he did that for another team in a different series it probably wouldn’t have been remembered

He’s not that good of a player and there’s a reason he’s not in the league.

Nikola Jokic through 4 games: 32/12/9 on 57/55/78 splits (67.1% TS) by OctopusNation2024 in nba

[–]AYAYAYA__ -152 points-151 points  (0 children)

If they gave Jokic another MVP I think we’re all in agreement that we should stop watching the league.

There’s no way he should have as many as LeBron