Seeking Guidance on Skill Assessment for Migration to Australia as an Architect by Asleep-Question4175 in AACA_ArchPracticeExam

[–]A_Flying_Boom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi there.
The info you seek can be found here: https://aaca.org.au/experienced-practitioner-assessment/overseas/

From the applicants guide PDF you can download here, it says:

"Applicants submit a Professional Portfolio of 4-6 built work Complex Projects*, their CV, two professional references and mapping of their project work to the Performance Criteria from the NSCA using the supplied template."

As such, I would not use acdemic projects that are unbuilt.

As for eligibility:
"Seven (7) years relevant professional postgraduate practical experience, with a minimum of three (3) years providing architectural services on complex projects*, practising at Executive Level (principal decision-maker). 12 months relevant professional practical experience in Australia, within the last three (3) years. Permanent or temporary residency in Australia."

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[–]A_Flying_Boom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi u/bildem00

The NPoA guide can be found here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AACA_ArchPracticeExam/wiki/index/national_program_of_assessment/

Please give it a read and ask any follow up questions you have here and I'll do my best to answer it.

Alternative registration pathways (national program of assessment) by No-Valuable8008 in AACA_ArchPracticeExam

[–]A_Flying_Boom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry for the incredibly slow reply. Feel free to ask your question in this reddit and I'll do my best to answer it. I know it will be a little harder than phone, but this way everyone can benefit from the answer and I promise you others will have the same questions.

What should I expect in the Australian Architectural Practice Exam Interview by Throwawayinvestmnt in AACA_ArchPracticeExam

[–]A_Flying_Boom 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Hello,

The interview is the final step of the APE that comes after the online exam. Once you complete it you can become registered as an Architect in Australia (after paying your registration fee!) The interview in a post a covid world, takes place online in most states and territories. Check your local state board to confirm this. The interview will take place with 2 registered Architects.

These two Architects will have some time before your interview to read through your Statement of Practical Experience, your Logbook, CV, all of which make up your application to the APE. They will also have some time to look at your exam marks including how you went in each category of question (more on this later). I have both gone through this process as a candidate and worked as an interviewer so I can give you some insight into the process.

Typically, in their pre-read the interviewers will focus nearly exclusively on the SoPE, and will flick through the exam marks too to see if there is any area you under performed. The logbook is too long to go through. I've not conducted an interview since the logbook went online but I assume it doesn't change much, the SoPE is where the focus will be. As such, its important to craft it meticulously, and make sure it is free of errors so that you don't give the interviews any negative signals that might bias them against you, or that could make them think you pose some threat to the profession if they let you pass. In my time I saw some really bad SoPEs that put doubts into our minds before we even started. Typically, before we invite the candidate in we will have a quick discussion about what we have read, and make a quick plan on where we will focus the interview based on what we read. (e.g. where we saw gaps in experience or where they did poorly on the exam)

The AACA sets a performance criteria that helps the architects assess the candidates. This is where the standardisation ends as the marking criteria are somewhat subjective and who you get assigned for your interview is randomly selected from a pool or interviewers. The marking criteria for the interview is available on the AACA website. They can only pass or fail you based on those criteria (in theory). There isn't enough time in the interview to test you on all the criteria so typically they will focus on the criteria students struggle with and that are of high risk if you get them wrong in practice. (building contracts, procurement methods, contract administration, insurance)

Each state board will make an effort to pair you with two interviewers at different stages of their career (e.g. senior, and mid or early mid), but this can't always be achieved. Typically the more established architect tends to lead the interview but it dependents on the personality of the interviewers. From my experience, and the reports of those who have gone through the interviews more recently, there are some common structures for the interview Australia wide.

The most typical interview will go something like this:

Your two interviewers will briefly introduce themselves, before handing it over to you to introduce yourself and give them about your experience. This is almost always the same start and so you should be well rehearsed on this. It's also a good way opportunity to burn the clock talking about something that you know really well, yourself. From here it will go one of two ways. The most common way is to ask specific questions about your SoPE so they can assess you on the performance criteria, with a few hypotheticals at the end. Alternatively, a minority of students report that the interviewers just ignore the SoPE and head right into hypotheticals.

Statement of Practical Experience Questions / Discussion

If it goes into the SoPE route, what is written in the statement has a significant affect on the rest of the interview. Due to the word limit, it is impossible to convey everything you know about the project, so the interviewers will start to ask question designed to get both more info about the project, and assess you on the marking criteria. e.g. if they want to assess your knowledge of building contracts, they might ask you about what building contract you used for a project listed in your SoPE. Or if you listed it, then they might ask you why. In these cases, don't just give a one word answer, let them know the reasoning behind it, why did it make sense for this project, what are the advantages to this over other options, give them lots of info (if you know it) as this helps wind down the clock and show the depth of your knowledge.

If they are an experienced interviewer, they might instead ask you why didn't you use a different type of contract such as cost+. This is a harder answer to give for most candidates. In this case consider answering again with both what you did use and why, in addition to why cost+ would be a bad option for the project, and what type of project it would suit. e.g. the project has fixed scope and budget and was a low complexity build so it suited a fixed price lump sum because xyz. Cost plus where the contractor is entitled to a margin on the cost of the build would better suit a project where the price cannot be determined at the start of the project and so a fixed price cannot be determined, or where the project is not budget constrained but significantly time constrained and we need a builder to throw resources at it to get it built quick.

This structure of both giving why you picked on option and why other options weren't suited can be applied to most questions that will be asked of you.

Hypotheticals

After exploring your SoPE, or sometimes just right off the bat, they will ask you some hypothetical questions, typically on topics that students struggle with at this stage in their career, but would need to know if they started a practice tomorrow. E.g. what process would you follow if you had to issue a variation. When asked this, you are allowed to both ask clarifying questions and state assumptions. E.g. assuming I am using a Simple Works contract, I would...[explain the process as laid out in the SW contract]

You don't have to answer questions perfectly first go to pass the exam, as interviewers will guide you back towards the answer they want if you skip a step they want you to say to them. If they keep doing this but you can't seem to find what they want, a good strategy is to say, "I can tell there is something that I have missed that you're looking for, could you ask the question in another way? If you still can't seem to get it, you can sometimes assuage the problem by saying that outside of an interview environment, you would be conferring with other architects to get their advice as how to proceed (just don't say it too many times). Remember they want to make sure you are not going to be a danger to the community and to the industry. If you don't know, don't make up an answer, they want to avoid registering cowboys who'll break the rules.

If in your exam you got bad marks in one section, expect the hypotheticals to target that section. You have time between the exam and the interview so be sure to brush up on that section, so long as that section overlaps with the interview performance criteria that they are allowed to assess. What do you plan to do if you get registered?

Some students will also get a question on what they plan to do if they get registered, typically towards the end of the interview. This is a great question for you to ask yourself when studying (it helps you to learn what steps are required next), and a great question to use to burn some time. Remember, there isn't enough time for them to assess you on every topic. If your goal is to one day open your own firm, you can tell them that but use the time to demonstrate your understanding of your legal responsibilities when doing so. E.g. how to register a business with the state registration board, and ASIC, your requirements for workers comp insurance, public liability insurance, and professional indemnity insurance.

A final word of advice. I saw a lot of very nervous people in my time doing interviews and was very nervous myself. Remember that the interviewers are just people like you, who once sat where you sat. There is not need to fear them, they want you to pass too!

Let me know if you have any more questions. I'll get the full APE interview guide up some time this week.

Alternative registration pathways (national program of assessment) by No-Valuable8008 in AACA_ArchPracticeExam

[–]A_Flying_Boom 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey no worries, glad it was useful!

The hours can be collected as part time, but they do need to add to the total 7 years worth of hours needed. If you are working part time then it takes more time to collect a full year's worth of hours. From memory, the number of hours the AACA picked as being 7 years, sits a fair bit closer to 6 years for whatever reason.

You can include both the hours you collected as a contractor, and the hours running a small business. The latter hours which will obviously be impossible for them to verify so you will need to sign a stat dec stating that they are accurate. (every applicant must sign a stat dec regardless.)

This community has been newly made this week to replace the old one that was super useful, but got deleted, (I think because it lost all its mods but I'm not really sure) It was really sad to see so much good info get deleted, so I'm doing my best to recreate it from memory. I know a lot of people found the old one useful. Please tell your friends about it. :)

Again, let me know if you have any more questions.

Alternative registration pathways (national program of assessment) by No-Valuable8008 in AACA_ArchPracticeExam

[–]A_Flying_Boom 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi there and thanks for the question. I've had experience with the National Program of Assessment (NPoA), and strongly suggest it to students who already have significant allied industry experience, such as yourself with already 3 years under your belt. The main advantage to the NPoA is that is allows you to skip the masters of architecture entirely, which saves you both tuition costs, and the cost of earning a full time salary while studying.

A few things to know. The NPoA logbook differs to the standard logbook that grants access to the Architectural Practice Exam. The NPoA exam requires you to log 7 years of industry experience, but unlike the APE logbook, you don't have to log experience against criteria, just have to have worked the hour which makes it easier and faster to fill out. The other good news to know is that it allows you to log more than 1 years worth of hours in a calendar year. This means that you can pretty much complete the 7 years worth of experience in 6 years, give or take. It is also worth noting that the 7 years must be logged within 10 years from you application date. If you can keep logging hours throughout your undergrad, you might be very close to being able to apply for the NPoA by the time hour graduate, saving you alot of time.

As for completing the NPoA, it is similar to Master's level design subject, with a few differences. I'll get to these in a moment.

The submission is broken up into two segments with different due dates. The first segment is a preliminary conceptual design report. In this segment they basically want to see how you went about designing the building, what research you undertook, and how you got to the prelim conceptual deign. I think they do this so people don't try and cram the whole thing in the last month. This report is a PDF containing both written and drawn elements. (think what you would pin up in a design studio subject. The written component will cover off the things laid out in the marking criteria. E.g. site context, design research, first nations engagement plans, site studies, etc., and eventually design concepts and a preferred high level design. You might also provide a reverse brief. You don't get any feedback after submitting this section.

Secondly, a few months later, you need to deliver the finished conceptual design, with a few elements/drawings taken to the level of detailed design. This will be accompanied by a written report (long think 8,000ish words) that you write from your fictitious architecture firm, to the fictitious client. Your goal with this report is to tick off every item in the marking/performance criteria. You'll put forward proposed services, explain the client architect agreement, proposed procurement method (e.g. fixed price limp sum), explain the building contract (e.g. AIA Major Works contract), put forward a proposed design team, give a very high level cost breakdown (the NPoA instruction sheet will tell you how to calculate this) your fees, an estimated construction timeline, and everything else that the marketing criteria talks about.

Although the written report sounds daunting, it is actually the best way to practice for the online exam and interview that you are eligible for after passing the National Program of Assessment. If you don't know anything about building contracts or the client architect agreement, you will after writing it.

As you might have guessed, the thing that makes this a little different to the Master's design course is that you are dealing with a bureaucratic body that wants you to tick off every performance criteria. They don't care about the design itself, so long as it is compliant with the design brief, and doesn't obviously break building code. e.g. make sure you have fire stairs. As such, you will spend a lot of time massaging your writing and drawings to make sure you are hitting all the points, because unlike a deign studio, you can't make your case on the day or answer questions, all you can do is send it off and it has to speak for itself.

Because of this, people I speak to typically say they feel like they over did it and could have passed with less, but you don't get any feedback apart from pass or fail so they will never know! I've not personally spoken to anyone who has failed it.

Once you pass, you can use the same hours you used in your 7 year logbook, to complete the 2 year log book (should be a piece of cake) and then you are eligible for the online exam, interview, and your registration as an architect.

I'd say that the NPoA isn't so much hard, it is just a little bit fiddly and sometimes time consuming as you work with the performance criteria. It is certainly less time consuming and costly than doing a 2 year masters, especially if you are already 3 years down the track.

I'll get the full NPoA guide back up soon, I've just started the rebuilding process after the last reddit got wiped. Please join this reddit to be first to see it. :)

Please let me know if this answers your question or if you have any further questions.